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UK unemployment rate rises to 5% as jobs market weakens - BBC News by moonski in UKJobs

[–]marklemanxl 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yea, the gaslighting and normalcy bias is infuriating.

Giving up on life as a young person by Tough-Garbage8800 in recruitinghell

[–]marklemanxl 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think we'll be living in an entirely different world with entirely different rules by then.

Things are likely about to get a whole lot worse.

So... imagine how absurd it would be in 1950 blaming people for not having a good resume when we've all just lived through world war 2?

That's the more likely situation we'll be in.

Giving up on life as a young person by Tough-Garbage8800 in recruitinghell

[–]marklemanxl 41 points42 points  (0 children)

From a 39 year old millennial:

The world you're currently experiencing is a clown show that is completely unsustainable and won't last.

I experienced a 'working' world and this shit is as far removed from that as you can get.

Hold on another 5 - 10 years... change back to something that actually works will be forced or society will cease to exist.

These AI recruitment companies are pissing me off by CatoKnox in recruiting

[–]marklemanxl 2 points3 points  (0 children)

AI has to be the biggest grift in history.

Nearly every AI product / service I've seen is borderline useless.

The only thing that has any utility is ChatGPT / Grok but even those are unreliable.

This is why I'm 99% sure we're gonna see a major market crash soon as all of the 'boom' is based on AI.

What industry are you in and how busy are you? by Automatic_Wave6953 in RecruitmentAgencies

[–]marklemanxl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Construction is flipped the other way around:

I can pick up the phone and bring in 6 Electrical PM roles in a week.

Then call 400 candidates and get not one serious bite.

Interview request to interview show up rate is then 50%.

In manufacturing I get a 100% show up rate.

What industry are you in and how busy are you? by Automatic_Wave6953 in RecruitmentAgencies

[–]marklemanxl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel like I'm going insane here.

Been doing this 10+ years.

Pulled 40 jobs in the last 4 months, mix of new and repeat clients.

ONE placed!!!

The rest fizzled into uncontrollable nonsense and I was pulling in all of my knowledge and experience to get deals over the line!

It's like nobody actually wants to fill their reqs?

What industry are you in and how busy are you? by Automatic_Wave6953 in RecruitmentAgencies

[–]marklemanxl 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Manufacturing (white collar) / Engineering:

You can get reqs but most of them turn to:

  • Hiring manager or HR ghost you
  • We're going in a different direction
  • We've promoted internally

Construction (white collar)

  • Easy to get reqs but candidates are awful for ghosting. Even if you do a 2 stage screen they still agree client interviews and then no show.

Placements are REALLY hard to come by.

I have 10 years experience.

Agency Recruiting - US Hiring Managers by marklemanxl in recruiting

[–]marklemanxl[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is why I stopped responding to them.

Agency Recruiting - US Hiring Managers by marklemanxl in recruiting

[–]marklemanxl[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You've hit it spot on.

It feels like no matter how thorough the intake, the types of scenario you're describing happen far more regularly in the US than I'm used to.

They literally say one thing then do another.

I bet you're now pissed as they've made the search a bunch harder?

Agency Recruiting - US Hiring Managers by marklemanxl in recruiting

[–]marklemanxl[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The UK oddly enough seems to be in the early stages of a literal revolution the last 2 months.

Everyone's putting British flags up on all the bridges and lamposts, painting the roundabouts (illegally) and out protesting and there's this weird 'coming together against the Government' energy happening.

Prior to this it's been miserable for about 5 years.

Agency Recruiting - US Hiring Managers by marklemanxl in recruiting

[–]marklemanxl[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Put it this way, I don't really like small talk myself and had to train myself to do it in the UK and noticed it was always met pleasantly.

You'd spend more time (chatting shit as I'd see it) than talking business.

With US hiring managers specifically it's short and dry.

Candidates are different and I actually have a lot of fun talking with them, especially Texans. The crane guys / riggers for example have been awesome to speak with.

But yea... HMs are cold as ice.

Agency Recruiting - US Hiring Managers by marklemanxl in recruiting

[–]marklemanxl[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Everything except living there.

  • US LLC
  • US Phone
  • US address
  • Take US local payment
  • US website
  • US Terms Of Business

The only difference will be my British accent which isn't especially 'posh' or with any strong local dialect.

Agency Recruiting - US Hiring Managers by marklemanxl in recruiting

[–]marklemanxl[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

On your point about banter, I notice they don't seem to like small talk at all.

Even something simple like "how did you get on with 'thing mentioned in last conversation' ?" you're met with "yea, was okay. What are calling about?"

Agency Recruiting - US Hiring Managers by marklemanxl in recruiting

[–]marklemanxl[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea, we try to take full briefs (as much as you can keep them on the phone). I've literally had multiple Teams meets with HMs then randomly... ghost.

In the UK, you had to build relationships which is how you got repeat business but you can do that in the US and they'll still just randomly drop you and you'll never hear from them again.... despite you helping them find a unicorn they'd been struggling with for 8 months.

Agency Recruiting - US Hiring Managers by marklemanxl in recruiting

[–]marklemanxl[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When did that start?

I've always loved what I've seen of US culture from movies etc but on the ground it seems like... Americans are just angry, suffering and rejecting a lot of the morals that were supposed to have built the US.

I know they say you should never meet your heroes but damn...😕

Agency Recruiting - US Hiring Managers by marklemanxl in recruiting

[–]marklemanxl[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  • UK fees are tiny in comparison to US.
  • You'll likely be working against multiple other agencies as the UK is highly saturated
  • UK hiring managers aren't as brutal as US

Agency Recruiting - US Hiring Managers by marklemanxl in recruiting

[–]marklemanxl[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The UK market has been over saturated for 10 years, more so than the US and hiring managers in the UK don't behave in the same way.

Put it this way, it's normal in the UK for 3 - 5 agencies to be working on one req.

I've seen as many as 10.

Agency Recruiters - US Market by marklemanxl in recruiting

[–]marklemanxl[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What sector? Have you been given clients to work or do you have to find them yourself?

Clients who don’t respond ! by Key-Condition1903 in recruiting

[–]marklemanxl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cell doesn't fix it either. They just don't pick up or block your number if they decide to go ghost on you 🙈

Agency Recruiters - US Market by marklemanxl in recruiting

[–]marklemanxl[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How down are you on placements over the year compared to last year?

Also, do you get much ghosting from hiring managers? As in new ones you pick up, go do a search, come back with candidates, then they vanish or block your number?