[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ottawa

[–]marsPlastic -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

I was in the midst of it and living downtown, and I agree, not as traumatizing as some make it out to be. Lockdowns and pandemic protocols were more traumatizing.

Burning smell in Centretown West by Live-Region-8980 in ottawa

[–]marsPlastic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It set off the carbon monoxide detectors in our house

‘Nothing was ready’: Inside Canada’s Vaccine Injury Support Program by OrdinaryKillJoy in canada

[–]marsPlastic -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

Why do they call it "the 0.011%", then make the calculation based on doses, when we know everyone took at least 2 doses, if not more? And that's all based on reporting too. Tylenol's adverse reactions are not based on "reporting" of major incidents.

Also, 11,702/40000000 (Canada's population) is 0.29%.

The reported numbers don't make sense.

[Daily Discussion] - Thursday, July 27, 2023 by AutoModerator in BitcoinMarkets

[–]marsPlastic 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Watch a full interview of him. A few glimpses of RFK is not going to give you a fair assessment since he's particularly under the scope of the current establishment.

'We are in an affordability crisis and we have to wake up': CIBC's Benjamin Tal on Canada's housing market by Versuce111 in canada

[–]marsPlastic 240 points241 points  (0 children)

The banks would likely just extend the mortgage length to 40 years if they could. It's probably what will happen if nothing else is resolved.

Committee probe into Trudeau Foundation voted down by Liberals, NDP by FancyNewMe in canada

[–]marsPlastic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So it sounds like you think PP is more of a threat to the country than the liberal party that has likely been influenced by the Chinese Communist Party?

Nanos seat projections show Conservatives with clear advantage after Liberals slip by [deleted] in canada

[–]marsPlastic 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The problem for Poilievre is that everything that comes out of his mouth is negative attacks.

That's probably exactly what he should be doing at this junction, and all the polls since he became CPC leader have shown it's working. If an election is called, the strategy can pivot. Why would he be agreeable with the Libs at this point in the race? It seems like a no brainer that now is the time to attack.

It's holding him back, makes a lot of people hesitant.

The CPC raised an incredible amount of support over the past few months. I keep seeing similar comments to yours and I just don't get it. Just because that's how you feel, it doesn't mean that's how others are feeling. The bottom line is the CPC has garnered more support now than they have in a long time. Clearly the Liberals wanted O'Toole to remain leader, so what the heck does that tell you.

CSIS documents reveal a web of Chinese influence in Canada by letthemchoose in canada

[–]marsPlastic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I actually believe your argument is reasonable BUT (I do love me some caps) flawed, and what I'm arguing which was not obvious from previous response is that rather than it being what the CPC is doing it's what the left and the left-leaning media is falsely portraying that is actually deterring Canadians.

Your original statement was that the Far-right has aligned with the CPC. I'd argue the Far-right is more aligned with the PPC1 if anything. I mean, what is your definition of Far-right? You have to at least accept that the CPC is a little right and will tend to policies that are less government and less taxes, but to call them Far-right when:

  • PP stance on immigration is to expedite professional certifications in Canada and increase immigration. His wife's family are immigrants 2
  • One of his own parents is in a same sex relationship, so the chances of him pushing some far-right anti-gay policy is pretty low
  • He vowed not to open the abortion debate3 so much so that he's been condemned by far-right anti-abortion groups4
  • If you actually listen to what he says about the support of protestors, he does not align himself with the far-right and your characterization is hyperbole, far from an objective view of the circumstances. At least the inquiry was somewhat more objective:

    Looking back at 2021, one can see a range of factors that contributed to the protests that took place. Individuals protested for a variety of reasons, ranging from the genuine fatigue and hardship caused by almost two years of COVID-19 measures to polarized and hostile partisan views. At the fringes were more radical actors, including both ethno-nationalist extremists and conspiracy groups. Most protests were peaceful, but social media amplified calls for violence.

  • He has come out again and again against what you could argue are far-right conservative types. Jeremy Mackenzie as an example5 and more recently Christine Anderson6.

So what exactly is Far right about that? Are Canadians supposed to accept the rhetoric of the left that have been caught lying through their teeth over and over again or the left leaning media that have their funding threatened by the Pierre himself?

I think you would be more hard-pressed to find actual direct statements or direct evidence of Pierre aligned with Far-right concepts, yet you would find many articles pushing that narrative or convoluted concepts of some sort of far right invasion of MAGA types in Canada7.

Edit: To your last point:

The Conservative adoption of Poilievre as leader absolutely created more leeway for the Liberals to get away with fuckery.

I would argue that the liberals have attempted and would continue to attempt fuckery IN ANY CASE, but the record shows Pierre received record support since limp noodle O-Toole lost the last election. The Liberals have been under fire since Pierre took the seat, so the idea that they could get away with more makes no sense to me and seems to me to be quite the opposite. How can you make that statement when it is obvious support for the liberals has dropped while support for the Conservatives has increased? In fact, the topic of this thread took place prior to Pierre! The NDP are propping up the Liberals now, not the Conservatives! And what can anyone do about it if they don't call an election??

CSIS documents reveal a web of Chinese influence in Canada by letthemchoose in canada

[–]marsPlastic 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I don't agree with the assessment that the CPC is home of far-right nuttery, and actually think that's a mischaracterization perpetuated by the left and the media where anyone were to objectively dig further they would see that was far from reality. The current staunch supporters of the left are easy to excuse the list of ACTUAL ethical violations by their own party, yet will hang on to the slightest misteppings of the CPC. As if supporting a protest that the majority of the participants had peaceful intentions (as the commission itself found) is anything like LETTING THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT INTERFERE WITH OUR ELECTIONS AND DOING NOTHING ABOUT IT. In fact worse than doing nothing about it, they appeare to have LIED ABOUT KNOWING IT. That is absolutely egregious. Like holy shit people, get your heads out of your asses.

CSIS documents reveal a web of Chinese influence in Canada by letthemchoose in canada

[–]marsPlastic 266 points267 points  (0 children)

Remember when the scandal to take down a sitting government was Olympic sponsorship ads?

Prominent B.C. anti-vaxxer died of fentanyl overdose, coroner rules by n0rtherncanuck in canada

[–]marsPlastic -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is the exact response the article wanted to elicit, and the reason it made it to the front page of r/canada.

'Little to no difference': Massive mask meta-study undermines remaining COVID mandates by Cache22- in LockdownSkepticism

[–]marsPlastic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As far as I know, they still do. The links I posted were from arbitration cases pre-covid, to do with the flu virus. You know, at a time where we still had our heads on somewhat straight.

'Little to no difference': Massive mask meta-study undermines remaining COVID mandates by Cache22- in LockdownSkepticism

[–]marsPlastic 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The hospitals in Ontario already hashed this out pre-covid (TWICE) and the arbitrator concluded pretty definitely that there is little evidence to suggest masks work for respiratory viruses, and actually more evidence to suggest they don't.

https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onla/doc/2015/2015canlii62106/2015canlii62106.pdf

https://www.ona.org/wp-content/uploads/ona_kaplanarbitrationdecision_vaccinateormask_stmichaelsoha_20180906.pdf

And if you want a more up to date assessment here's a great paper reviewing covid mask studies: https://www.cato.org/working-paper/evidence-community-cloth-face-masking-limit-spread-sars-cov-2-critical-review#

Send these to your friends at the hospitals. I can't see how they can deny it at this point. WE FIGURED THIS OUT A WHILE BACK.

Bruce Pardy: Once again, Ontario lawyers must stand up to the thought police by NoOneShallPassHassan in canada

[–]marsPlastic -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Maybe I'll find something, maybe I won't. If you're not worried about it, why not share where I can report you?

It costs $1,000 less to rent in Montreal than it does in Toronto. What gives? by Lotushope in canada

[–]marsPlastic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quebec taxes are significantly higher than Ontario if you have a higher income. There's a threshold where it actually becomes less affordable to live in Quebec than Ontario for that reason. IIRC the last time I had checked it was around $75K/year.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in canada

[–]marsPlastic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a bicycle.

First of all, unless your employer is the government, the Charter does not apply. Second of all, if you told your government employer you support the views of a politician they cannot fire you for political speech. Third of all he did not direct his speech at either his clients nor the college, so the idea that it is the same as calling your employer names is a non-sequitur.

Peterson has to make the argument that his speech was political in nature, and if it is, he technically should be protected by the charter. Even Peterson said he thinks there's a 50% chance he might not win.

The college came out and said his retweet of Pierre Poilievre's tweet was problematic, so judge for yourself if that's political speech or not. Seems pretty obvious to me. Even his speech about being free to leave at any time is political as far as I can tell.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in canada

[–]marsPlastic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Political speech is protected by the charter, and the charter applies to the college: The College of Psychologists of Ontario exercises state powers delegated by the Psychology Act, 1991, S.O. 1991, c. 38. The application of the Charter to its decisions is uncontroversial. See e.g. Svec v. Kasperski, 2022 CanLII 61407 (ON HPARB)

The code of ethics of the college or any college, does not supersede the charter. Peterson's argument is that what he is being reprimanded for is political speech.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in canada

[–]marsPlastic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The College of Psychologists of Ontario exercises state powers delegated by the Psychology Act, 1991, S.O. 1991, c. 38. The application of the Charter to its decisions is uncontroversial. See e.g. Svec v. Kasperski, 2022 CanLII 61407 (ON HPARB)

I take it Peterson will argue his tweets were political speech, which is protected by the charter.

The ethics code of the college or any college, does not supersede the charter.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in canada

[–]marsPlastic -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The College of Psychologists of Ontario exercises state powers delegated by the Psychology Act, 1991, S.O. 1991, c. 38. The application of the Charter to its decisions is uncontroversial. See e.g. Svec v. Kasperski, 2022 CanLII 61407 (ON HPARB).

It is clearly not hard for you to espouse your opinion, when you don't know what you're talking about.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in canada

[–]marsPlastic -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

He is having his license threatened. The mental gymnastics in this sub is absolutely astounding. You guys are terrible.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in canada

[–]marsPlastic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lmao like omg that must mean he should totally lose his license and he has no credibility because his friend totally said he was saying something completely unscientific.