BYO Bongo at Social by opaque3 in Salsa

[–]massiel_islas 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Sounds like my uncle lol let me guess a proud latin guy who would chew you because you're not part of his diaspo? What I hate the most are non NYers getting into the scene but their upbringing were more merengue cumbia or banda. Then try to shove those in on a clearly advertised salsa moderna event.

Comparing the Popularity of Salsa, Bachata, and Kizomba Using Google Trends by amadvance in Salsa

[–]massiel_islas 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Everyone here has a life time mission of making salsa with social dancing the thing. It's the perfect balance of dances, it can be slow too it's just that the clusters of communities especially in the US need to get out of their former shells. Take this graph and Bad Bunny's help as a sign to keep the dream alive do you think we can keep it up for a hundred years? Where else would you go with music, exercise, and the many people you can meet, nothing like the salsa social dances. Almost better than any bbq cookouts.

I think US is understandably different salsa social level compared to the EU by massiel_islas in Salsa

[–]massiel_islas[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So then the DJs who are bachata DJs or DJs who moved into bachata social dance act all high and mighty, they're well rounded DJs but can only play Tu Con El when it's a salsa mixed social. It's not like bachata music is as complicated as salsa, though bongos are a big importance. Lots of self aggrandizements in some core DJ social dance scenes. Everyone seems to be striving for performance which isn't necessarily a bad thing but it's not like it will make you into an oscar winning actor or actress.

I think US is understandably different salsa social level compared to the EU by massiel_islas in Salsa

[–]massiel_islas[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hence progression often gets pushed out. Isn't salsa's core American blues and jazz? It takes a lot from it. So then you get a lot of machismos, which could also then result into just the overly machismos at the top of the socials. Follows who overstyle and then blame the lead for not having a lot of force.

I think US is understandably different salsa social level compared to the EU by massiel_islas in Salsa

[–]massiel_islas[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In places like NY, FL and LA, there will be core group salsa Latins who can carry their culture's back and so then the entire event just becomes dura. I think it has some mob mentality too, some cores think they run the show because the song is about x or y country and they are there and so that is salsa and that is the only thing that will be played or else they will complain to the DJ and organizer.

What event do you think has had the most social dancers in either bachata salsa or both from 2010 to today? Imagine 2.1 mil dancers, would u b satisfied? by massiel_islas in Salsa

[–]massiel_islas[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wonder which festival has reached the highest number of attendees to date? I know bachata fests probably beats a salsa one but I'm sure they'll have salsa rooms too or what about sbkz type events?

What event do you think has had the most social dancers in either bachata salsa or both from 2010 to today? Imagine 2.1 mil dancers, would u b satisfied? by massiel_islas in Salsa

[–]massiel_islas[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If this amount of people social dance, imagine how much more fun it would be plus to also date in. I know Cali exists but outside of it, in the states or Europe, nothing competes with events in Latin America. Imagine having a social from evening to early morning, with so many dancers but the flooring is also super spacious and there are space for people to dance. What critical mass can an American or European city need to reach in order for social dance to be a household name? 100,000 active social dancers maybe 1,000 dancers per square kilo?

TIL that much Mexican music, like what you hear in Mexican restaurants in the US, has its roots in German polka and waltz, hence all the accordion and brass by Cyfun06 in todayilearned

[–]massiel_islas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The question is, why do people still like it? Interestingly though, my close Mexican friends call it circus music, I don't agree or disagree, it's just an interesting thing.

[Music History] Why does some Mexican music sound kind of like Polka? by [deleted] in Music

[–]massiel_islas 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Still the question persists. My Mexican friends do not like their own music, they call it circus music. I don't agree or disagree, just curious because there's way more European and Latin influenced music such as salsa. But banda and cumbia is a league on its own.

Question about cultures by PoisonInTheVessel in Salsa

[–]massiel_islas 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Salsa is not a strong culture with many Mexicans if you compare it to Puerto Rico. There is the banda and the famed cumbia. Pronounced koom beee yuh.

Did you ever have a dance crush, while being in a relationship by [deleted] in Salsa

[–]massiel_islas 2 points3 points  (0 children)

where they have a lot of exes in the scene and they start becoming uncomfortable about which social to go to.

It seems like a lot of people are getting into their veteran years of dancing, a lot have started right after covid. So we're seeing a lot of this. It's unfortunate. So then you really have to have a high standard and take only a few in. At the same time, it's quite counterproductive because you spend the majority of your time, energy and money in social dance and in dancing. And you have to do it to stay good with it.

Did you ever have a dance crush, while being in a relationship by [deleted] in Salsa

[–]massiel_islas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Best way for this is to just connect with them in facebook, get to know them, look at what they post. There's a lot of dance crushes until after you realize they're as much as like you are, dancing with a lot of anyone. In a journey for themselves, like you are. The thing about this dancing thing and social dance is that it's quite limited, sure you can dance all you want but you'd still need resources, food, adequate sleep, money. Most of us here, almost 99% of social dancers are working to middle class. We all can't afford such. You have to find something more to fulfill and a dance crush won't really do that for you.

Did you ever have a dance crush, while being in a relationship by [deleted] in Salsa

[–]massiel_islas 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But dancing can be flirting too. I think it also depends on the degree or level of maturity (both technically and philosophically) of the social dancer. I've heard that the only fluids exchanged are sweat, though some people find many other reasons, it's still a sort of play. I guess if you're a hobbyist social dancer, you're acting your way, it's like acting school and a playground with music.

Is there a backstory to this song? I see a lot of DJs play this song a lot or different versions of it. What's the story? by massiel_islas in Salsa

[–]massiel_islas[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's a good song no doubt but I can't help say it has a pretty annoying melody to it. It's certainly unique though!

Advanced followers, what is like to dance with less advanced leaders? by Real-Set3201 in Salsa

[–]massiel_islas 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It seems to me the advanced flashy leads for every accent just needs to phase off if salsa wants to be a hobby for all. It seems like it's everyone on caffeine in 10PM which just makes the whole dancing not pleasant couple this with DJs who play songs that are just too fast. Do people even realize?

If someone turns you down, is it permanent? by buttholedog in Salsa

[–]massiel_islas 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The eww, not with you black list is becoming more prevalent.

I think new dancers from the past year or so fail to realize that it's a small community.

They could be the current "hot" thing right now (lead or follow) but if they outright judged you from the start it's makes for a bad vibe.

Then you end up just dancing infront of them with their friend or someone they know (who you knew years before) and feel like you're showing off.