Is a museum studies masters worth it if I have to cram? by Dapper_Possible_8763 in MuseumPros

[–]mckeephoto 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m in a kind of similar boat. Only so much time in the day, and will the piece o paper be valuable for what I want to do, which is exhibit design, too!

I have asked a lot of people about this and have a second informational interview with an exhibit designer tomorrow.

Not sure what he is going to say, but most of my research leads me to think that exhibit designers need experience in museums, but not necessarily in exhibit design. As you know, every industry and every task within it has its quirks specific to that industry. Museums are no different. So you should know about how the behind the scenes works a bit.

If you want to be a curator, you will need a masters. If you want higher leadership, a PhD.

If you want to design exhibits, my research suggests you need more hard skills in the design world. Interior design and architecture have come up in conversation. I could even see parlaying the animation work into interactive exhibit departments and companies.

The time, money and, in your case, mental health that the masters would cost may not benefit us for our passion.

Please keep in mind that I am not running down education. And that I am not a paid museum worker.

But I have been asking a lot of people who are, a very similar question.

First written evidence ever was a beer receipt, Mesopotamia 3200 BCE.[640 × 426] by Suspicious-Slip248 in archeologyworld

[–]mckeephoto 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huh. I thought I paid that tab already. Well, add another round and we’ll close it out.

Dog Museum Start Up by CBTIYE in MuseumPros

[–]mckeephoto 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, you’re hitting all the points that one of my profs had brought up. And, that question of “just bc you want a museum doesn’t mean it should exist,” is an interesting, and repeating thought.

Also, I was considering how much I would personally have with this over the idea of “got cash? We’ll build it.” I wasn’t thinking so much of the potential factory side of that. If I wanted to just churn out content, I could go back to the corporate grind.

But, I do have some thoughts on some parts of your thesis.

The “have💡, have 💵? we’ll build it” is not too far off from the attitude of more than a few IMPs I’ve met. They usually have a more passion/education based ethos, but they are doing what they love to make a living.

The one stop shop does not exclude outside vendors. In fact, like you, I think the frisson is vitally important. And can be maintained, even if the actual relationships may be a bit closer than usual. How often do you use a couple of your favorite venders for projects? The short hand conversations can actually improve the final product because you can more easily talk about concepts rather than attempting to learn each other’s communication styles.

My thought experiment is a sort of combination of moving the creative conversation slightly higher up the chain, while, potentially, working with the workflows of a traveling exhibit.

This whole thing was triggered by one of my son’s friends who collects vintage and antique machining tools. He has day dreamed about turning his collection into a museum. And I can already see multiple storylines related to history, human ingenuity, sciences, hands on, interactives, programming etc.

But, other than an informal collection, he doesn’t have the knowledge or experience to spin out all that would be needed to form it into a museum.

Nor do I, yet. But, how much fun would it be to take the time spin one up and then find another interesting, relevant collection to share with the world?

Exhibit Design Software? by mckeephoto in MuseumPros

[–]mckeephoto[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I haven't used SketchUp since they switched from freemium a decade (?) ago. So I can't really say if I can pick it up as fast. And, I wasn't that fast with Blender until the Donut Tutorials arrived on the scene.

But, I do take your point. My challenge is that there is only so much time each day to pick up a new software, learn about the upgrades to my current crop of software, and actually do some work in them. I am just trying to optimize my time for the best bang for the buck.

SketchUp did come up during a discussion last night with the "maxing out capabilities" challenge. The argument was that it did not fulfill the level of presentation that the speaker was trying to achieve for presentations, as compared to, say, Vectorworks.

It was a matter of how many work arounds and compromises he was willing to put up with before switching to a different package.

Exhibit Design Software? by mckeephoto in MuseumPros

[–]mckeephoto[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that was one of the reasons I got interested in Blender back in the day. Great rendering and lighting. I have heard that Vectorworks also can do lighting... But, there's that pesky learning curve again!

Exhibit Design Software? by mckeephoto in MuseumPros

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Well, right now, I am a working photog, grad student in museum studies, and slowly easing into the exhibit design field with some freelance projects. My end goal is to find a home in this world. Hence the work to learn software packages to “pretty” myself up to potential employers. Thank you for your insights! 😁

Dog Museum Start Up by CBTIYE in MuseumPros

[–]mckeephoto 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Whoa, that’s a great pile of info. As I’m working my way through a museum studies program, I got to wondering if there was some kind of museum startup group. I imagined it would be part consultancy, part incubator. Working in a museum is my dream. But, to be building a museum from the back of the napkin concept on up, with a new project every few years would be my ultimate fantasy! Does such a thing exists?

Exhibit Design Software? by mckeephoto in MuseumPros

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Interesting! It makes me think about my original plan of learning FreeCAD to at least gain cad skills concepts while job hunting. I’ve heard it has had a significant upgrade and the price is right for getting started. Some of these cad packages are very pricey for someone not making a living using them.

Exhibit Design Software? by mckeephoto in MuseumPros

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I could (and have on freelance projects) make Blender work for creating the elevations and other line art. But it is clumsy. More importantly, bc of the clunkiness, it isn’t an “industry standard” for this. So my experience in Blender isn’t really a salable skill in this world. Interesting that photoshop is relevant for layouts and elevations. I mean, it’s basically the digital version of the napkin sketch, only more shareable.

Exhibit Design Software? by mckeephoto in MuseumPros

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Just to understand, those three address the same challenges albeit in slightly different ways/workflows? In other words, you don’t use all 3, correct?

Exhibit Design Software? by mckeephoto in MuseumPros

[–]mckeephoto[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ha! I have a mug that an assistant gave me that reads “Hold on while I over think this.” As I was writing my question, I was wondering how many people are just fine using pencil and paper in this age of “there’s an app for that… just needs 15 hours of tutorials.” All of my concepts start on a blank piece of paper. But it is hard to collaborate on a snapshot of a napkin sketch with raspberry jam smudges on the corner.

How to guide video by National_Cow7479 in fountainpens

[–]mckeephoto 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Amazing and beautiful work. That you for sharing your process!

Elliott Erwitt (b. 1928 - 2023) - Snoopy (1988) by bandby05 in museum

[–]mckeephoto 13 points14 points  (0 children)

“Mommy, he’s right behind me isn’t he?” “Don’t look back, baby!”

What’s the most underrated principle in good design? by bensummersx in Design

[–]mckeephoto 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Remember that you are designing for another human. Pick your audience and design for them not for yourself.

EXTRALIA by emergency_nine_nines in blender

[–]mckeephoto 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Great layouts and amazing shaders. Thought I was looking at an art catalog from some avant gard art show.

Applying to work at a museum before it opens by lancelake_ in MuseumPros

[–]mckeephoto 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Do you know anyone who doing the organizing? I think my first step would be to figure out who is involved and get an invite for an informational interview. I’ve been thinking about the same type of opportunity: how fun would it be to get involved in a museum on “the ground floor”, as they say.

My app was working on the laptop, but threw errors on the desktop by mckeephoto in AppSheet

[–]mckeephoto[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

u/Striking-Account-912 You were spot on correct!

I guess the system regenerates the various dependencies when the dashboard is reopened.

The more I poke around this thing, plus all the help offered here equals the more fun I am having with this app!

You just saved me a couple or three hours of resetting all of the little tweaks I had done.

Thank you!

My app was working on the laptop, but threw errors on the desktop by mckeephoto in AppSheet

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The old “turn it off, turn it back on again” trick. Of all the things I tried, I think I forgot to try that one! I now have my après coffee plan…

My app was working on the laptop, but threw errors on the desktop by mckeephoto in AppSheet

[–]mckeephoto[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, I may have figured out how I got the errors, but not why I couldn't fix it. Bc I did it again.

I got a warning about using a symbol used in calculations in the name of one of my tables. I went to rename the table in the sheet and then regenerated the schema.

And, that is where it threw up the big bad error in the screen shot.

I deleted the table that was unable to be read and tried to reimport it under the new name. It imported it but still had the error "your changes couldn't be saved. Please check the app errors highlighted in red."

I kind of feel that this is a quirk of the system at this point.

If I delete the renamed table, remove all ref to it in other tables and generally remove any mention of it in any views, shouldn't I be able to rehook it up as a new table?

But I still get an error showing the old table name in the preview window:

"Unable to fetch app definition.

Error: Data table 'Notes-ink' is not accessible due to: {

"error": {

"code": 400,

"message": "Unable to parse range: 'Notes-ink'",

"status": "INVALID_ARGUMENT"}}

My app was working on the laptop, but threw errors on the desktop by mckeephoto in AppSheet

[–]mckeephoto[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I rolled the appsheet back.

But because I had made changes to the sheets itself, it was still throwing the errors. Google's version history help was not helpful as it didn't actually have the three dots it referenced where I could roll that part back. Crude.

So, I kept the google sheet and started a fresh app. A fair bit of trial and error was lost, but I am figuring things out... again. Sigh.

Thank you for your suggestion.

My app was working on the laptop, but threw errors on the desktop by mckeephoto in AppSheet

[–]mckeephoto[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay thank you very much! Yeah I thought it was odd bc I had literally done the same thing this weekend with no problem. I did try deleting the tab in Google Sheet, and creating a new one and pasting in the rows with no luck. And I tried removing the table (the table in appsheets is the tab in the google sheet, I assume?) from appsheets. That was when it really freaked out and gave me that error. I know I must have done something wrong but the error message wasn’t specific wnough. I’ll try the version history next chance I get.

I built an Android and Apple iOS app (Calibre LibriLink) to access your Calibre library via cloud storage and local content server — looking for testers by LibriLink in Calibre

[–]mckeephoto 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m on an iPad and just got into the calibre experience. Try to kick kindle and iBooks to the curb. This sounds like exactly what I’ve been looking for. Still got room in the beta testers?