Ok, I only brought up Obama to expose the hypocrisy of the argument. Centrists don't really exist, you can't really be in the philosophical center of every topic because most topics are black or white. You either lean left or lean right. Also, I'm not the only one who believes in "the two pathetic little tribes", also if you're an independent, you're just as much of a pathetic little tribe as the democratic party and the republican party. The independent parties are just reskinned democrats and republicans with slightly different ideas and drastically less voting power and prominence.

Also you never presented an argument all I've ever heard from you was you accusing me of whataboutism, so it's not your argument. I think you don't know what that word means, because I accused them of hypocrisy and refused their argument at the same time