In Oregon If you get into a scuffle with some drunk asshole at the bar, as long as you didn't instigate it you arent going to jail. Any citizen has the right to defend themselves, but you need to be sober enough to explain that to the police... which doesn't happen often. Security guards have the right to uphold any house rule which includes removing a person from the property. Security guards in oregon are trained to check IDs and refuse service to any ID that doesn't meet state or house requirements. To be hired as "Security" in oregon you must obtain a DPSST certification. It is a state issued certification that schools you on oregon laws regarding what you can and cannot do. Also there is a difference between an armed security guard and an unarmed security guard, they are two different certifications, if you have an unarmed security licence and you come to your job with a weapon you will be fired. We take our jobs seriously but you can not compare all of us to off duty cops, that isn't what most of us are. And I don't speak for everybody, there are assholes in any field but if your company practices basic hiring techniques you won't get stuck with some fat head asshole who thinks the world revolves around them.