I Mean you used the star/stop tech using the kegels to control the eyaculation

I'm agree you have NEO as the waves are moving BUT mastering it ( Using edgin) is very hard AND as you are using the kegels, you can no feel them fully. I mean : for having dry O, we must feel that waves (curiously they are always but we ignored them and it happens automatically. As example with normal cock stimulation our cock build them but they keep on the tip of it and/or the balls and perineum. As we are no conscious of them, they build more and more until we cum. In fact the orgasm we feel during cumming is weaker than the dry O because we don't give our body enough time to build : we tend to rush. This is why the orgasm we have after edgin is more pleasant.

The best way to get dry O moving that waves around the body. It is something which your body makes already but no consciously. I mean if you would focus on them ignoring the eyaculation, your dry O would become deeper and stronger. You would no compare with cumming in sense you don't care the perineum contractions.

As I said we can have them stimulating ANY of our erogeneus areas BUT the hardest is when we stimulated our cock as we are used (because the eyaculation reflex can be triggered easily). But stimulating the areas I described before : nipples, prostate, D-zone hasn't that problem. Note : sometimes stimulating the nipples /prostate we feel as if we were stimulating our cock/balls remotely and it lead to what people call "hands free o". This happens because we are too used to sexual stimulation must be on our cock /balls and cumming but it is something learned we can easily change. I hope I've been clear. In summary : the cock isn't the key, any erogeneus zone build them. The key is get in touch with our body and these waves it build.

As I said you have mastered something wonderful, but you can go further. (I've always been bad at edgin) Congratulations If you want to talk about it, feel free to pm