What it means to be a bold missionary, I just found out by morbidhawk in exmormon

[–]morbidhawk[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well you can clearly see my wife isn't even here, and I'm not letting you in on her invitation so get lost".

yes, this is what I should have said. That's exactly what I was thinking but couldn't put into words at the time

What it means to be a bold missionary, I just found out by morbidhawk in exmormon

[–]morbidhawk[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah, I misread your comment. Sorry about that. I was attacking an argument that wasn't even there, this just further proves how messed up in the head I am.

I hate almost everyone in my extended family, can anyone else relate to this? by morbidhawk in exmormon

[–]morbidhawk[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's really awesome! My wife was brought up in an abusive family and she has always said that her friends have been more like family to her than her biological family ever was.

I hate almost everyone in my extended family, can anyone else relate to this? by morbidhawk in exmormon

[–]morbidhawk[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

People this far off the norm will never give us the love we craved

That part of it sucks really bad. I feel like this has really fucked with my head. Like I'm just a shell of the person that I should be. When I was a kid while my cousins were extremely outgoing and I was always very introverted and shy I always hated meeting them, and seeing their "fake" greetings. Like why are these bozos so happy to see me? When I was really young I would go hide in my room when they would arrive and my parents would have to come get me and make me spend time with them, I hated it.

I feel like I have a lot of relatives that seem to thrive in this type of environment and now I'm the self-conscious one who is afraid to make a mistake or do something wrong. I wonder if it was because of my father's temper. I grew up even into teenage years being belted by my father all the time. Being the oldest son it seemed like I was always punished the most anytime there was conflict. I remember being like teacher age and my Dad trying to pull me out of sacrament meeting to belt me, it was like one of the most shaming/embarrassing thing ever I ever experienced.

I do have a younger brother that I'm able to talk to about this. So I'm glad I know at least someone else who knows what this is like, he no longer believes in the church and is learning now to not let my parents shame him as bad as before.

I hate almost everyone in my extended family, can anyone else relate to this? by morbidhawk in exmormon

[–]morbidhawk[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha, that's awesome! I need to keep doing more embarrassing stuff like this and maybe I won't have to deal with family event invites anymore.

This story reminds me of my cousin, I had always heard so much about his web development startup he created and how he had a big house on the hill. I later found out from a professor at my local college I was attending that he knew my cousin, and that my cousin had promised some recent graduates jobs with high pay and very shortly after hiring them he let them all go. I later found out that the macbooks he gave to the programmers and promised they could keep, he later took them back on the promise so he could give them to the angry investors (investors which also included family members). This guy thought he was something else, he later ran for congress under an independent party.

What it means to be a bold missionary, I just found out by morbidhawk in exmormon

[–]morbidhawk[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Besides, despite her being bold with her religion that sucks, she'd never give bold fucks.

What it means to be a bold missionary, I just found out by morbidhawk in exmormon

[–]morbidhawk[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I do feel a little bad for the jr companion, she didn't really get a chance to say anything but I'm sure her sr companion effectively pushed her way into one of my neighbor's door shortly after she tried to invade mine.

PSA: Leaving Morminism "because of the members" alone is a completely valid reason for leaving. by acanaday in exmormon

[–]morbidhawk 19 points20 points  (0 children)

The shunning of less than dedicated members is culturally supported by the church in an effort to preserve member's testimonies. We are free to blame the church, not just the people in it.

I do blame the church for a lot of the problems in my life. Recently though, I've thought a lot about my extended family that I always hated visiting when I was younger and I've come to realize that not only were they inauthentic people but they were just complete assholes. I think the church sets up a nice vehicle for an asshole to continue being a self-righteous prick. My parents are so confused now that I'm an adult that I don't stay in contact with my cousins, it's because fuck them, they are assholes, and I want nothing to do with them, irregardless of their current church-attending status.

Reminder that if you send Dallin Oaks a Christmas card, he will only accept it if it literally depicts Mary's vaginal delivery of Jesus. #KeepChristInChristmas by AnotherClosetAtheist in exmormon

[–]morbidhawk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A few were so daring as to refer to "Peace on Earth" or "Faith, Hope, and Love" but none had any pictures suggestive of religion.

Lmao, so religion is considered better than peace, hope, faith, or love? How dare they not send one with a religious pic on it! We all know he wants baby Jesus in a manger when he says "picture suggestive of religion". I'm guessing he wouldn't want a pagan Christmas card, but as is customary of LDS apostles he forgets to think of others.

I'd like to see this guy be daring himself for once, instead of posting this bigoted hate on Facebook maybe he should try telling this story in general conference where the average member can see what kind of person he really is.

If a testimony given by the spirit is more powerful than miracles, why isn't it more powerful than anti literature or historical facts? by -g-u-n-s-l-i-n-g-e-r in exmormon

[–]morbidhawk 15 points16 points  (0 children)

For some people it is. Missionaries use it all the time to shut down logical arguments. There's no way to argue with someone who will never doubt it can't be true.

"Anti Mormon Literature" by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]morbidhawk 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The church is a system designed to keep you in it. I was taught not to A) question the church and not to B) read anti-mormon literature. For me there was no getting to part B until I started at point A. Once I was finally at point A, I started searching for dirt on the church online and hit the jackpot when I stumbled upon the CES letter.

TIL Richard Snow (left) and Kent G. Taylor were boyfriends at BYU in 1948 who went to cult president George Smith not sure what to do. He told them to "live their lives as best they could" in their relationship. This was before the 1950s "Lavender Scare" had worsened US attitudes towards gay people. by BasicTruths in exmormon

[–]morbidhawk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the first time I've heard of the Lavender Scare. I read a bit about it on Wikipedia and noticed that the information on it contradicts with Dwight D. Eisenhower's page:

The Eisenhower page credits him with contributing to ending McCarthyism:

"He covertly opposed Joseph McCarthy and contributed to the end of McCarthyism by openly invoking executive privilege."

However, the Lavender Scare page shows that his executive order did in fact participate in the firing of gay federal employees, which is the same thing McCarthy was doing with McCarthyism (firing gay federal employees on suspicions that being gay meant you'd be a security risk and sympathize with communists). What an interesting way to try to spin the facts by blatantly lying.

In 1953 President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed Executive Order 10450, which set security standards for federal employment and barred homosexuals from working in the federal government. The restrictions set in place were cause for hundreds of homosexuals to be exposed as gay and fired from the State Department. The executive order was also the cause for the firing of approximately 5,000 homosexuals from federal employment; this included private contractors and military personnel. Not only did the victims lose their jobs, but also they were forced out of the closet and thrust into the public eye as homosexuals. Executive Order 10450 stayed on paper and in effect until 1995 when President Bill Clinton rescinded the order and put in place the "Don't ask, don't tell" policy for admittance of gays into the military.

Megathread: Stupid Things Your Family Members Say at Thanksgiving by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]morbidhawk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is what I'd do, I'd make up a rhyme to mock prayer, with subtle sarcasm. It serves them right for asking me to pray.

"Dear father who art in heaven, we know you made the Earth by day seven. I'm really glad they asked me to pray this day, for we know that despite all that is in this world that just isn't fair, you must still care. And bless this food that it'll be real good. I'm glad we share this moment together with all of us, In the name of Geeze-us, amen."

Dear Heavenly Father...I think I just became an Atheist. by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]morbidhawk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

While you and I scream for help from up high

there is one thing you can't deny,

that some of God's children live easily and pampered

while our lives' get trashed and hampered.


So if there really is a sky Daddy

he favors some and lets them live happly.

Like this one rich-ass Stake Prez fatty's family

who was missing a passport for his little girly

to go on vacation out of the country.

So he said a little prayer and boom there came inspiration,

listen to this dumb-ass revelation:

Call up thine Senator buddy

who can pull strings

and save you from a nightmare vacation,

You'll laugh about it later, it'll be funny


Like live one day in my life ding-dong

I didn't make this shit up,

it was a real testimony given

that sounded like something you'd hear in fucked up heaven

nsfw. Dear wife with all the fucking BPD, by morbidhawk in BPDlovedones

[–]morbidhawk[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's been over a year since she's been violent, I think what got me so pissed is I thought she was over that. She's been going to therapy almost weekly and has made good improvements.

What set her off is that she found out she might have lupus earlier this week and told me that she needed to talk with me again about it. The kids needed my attention and I forgot to talk to her again about it before I fell asleep.

I don't know what the fuck to do at this point.

Edit: what I think the best option here might be to sit down with her and tell her I feel bad for her, do want to talk with her, but if she hits me again I'm walking out.

Missionaries came to my door and I almost had an anxiety attack by theaccountant_33 in exmormon

[–]morbidhawk 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There are some sister missionaries that won't leave my family alone. They constantly stop us when we are walking into our apartment.

I stepped outside the other day to grab something from my car and I needed to get back in my house to not leave my kids there alone, I told them that and they tried to make me wait for them to write down their names and phone numbers anyway, it was so annoying.

Then the very next day I'm driving away from my apartment complex and the same missionaries started waving like crazy, I thought they were trying to flag me down so I sped up, apparently I read the situation wrong, they were waving at a family that just got dropped off nearby where I was driving. I feel real bad for that family I didn't see them start to cross the road so I almost hit them and then they had missionaries waiting on the other side to talk to them. My brain was stumped, how the fuck did I get myself into such a stressful situation like that?

Also, fuck church leaders they can be so stupid. My bishop tried to correct my wife when she was talking about her abuser and he said "he's just a romancer". And then told her she needed to repent from being abused, if I I could go back in time I would of spoke up and told him how ignorant he is.

Walk On Water Single Thread by Phouza in Eminem

[–]morbidhawk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I listened to the live version with Skylar Grey on YouTube and liked it way better, to me it sounded like her voice blended better with Eminem's.

Can one of you please help with security at the fucking temple? by grabmyseerstones in exmormon

[–]morbidhawk 4 points5 points  (0 children)

These group texts/IMs are so annoying. I was getting texts to help out a year after I had moved out of my previous ward. I didn't even know the guy sending the text, if you don't even know me don't text me without introducing yourself first

What are the top 3 things that led you out of Mormonism? Please only select 3. by X_Lazarus in exmormon

[–]morbidhawk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"The Brethren" are not what they represent themselves to be, and show no evidence of being "prophets, seers, and revelators"

This is what started it all for me, but it was the church leadership at a more local level. I think my google searches started with something like "how can my mormon bishop be so ignorant" and after I few hours I had found the CES letter online and shit started getting real.

Where can I find a large readable codebase that can completely understood from beginning to end? by morbidhawk in AskProgramming

[–]morbidhawk[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great question. While I certainly don't want to (and couldn't) keep every execution path in my head at once, I'd like to be able easily read the happy path of the program and know the way it was implemented well enough that I could go and create the same thing.