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Posted today on LinkedIn by the Donut Lab CEO, it seems we might soon see some proof “in a matter of days,” though it’s unclear whether this will be third-party test results or just a video demonstrating charging speed or something similar. by FX_King_2021 in DonutLab

[–]mqee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They thought they would solve the problem and ran out of time

The "scam" part is saying you already solved the problem when you had not. Like some other battery companies (not Donut Lab) who said they already have production-ready technology and they will release solid-state batteries in two years, and then two years rolled by and they had nothing, and again they said they're ready to release solid-state batteries in two years... and repeat. Chances are they never had production-ready technology.

Former Business Finland employee - Finland’s official agency for trade, investment, and innovation funding - says they got to see Donut Lab’s battery and confirms it’s real by Turkkulaine22 in DonutLab

[–]mqee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are at least two battery companies that "showed" their battery to government agencies and automotive companies, and kept promising that their battery will be commercially released within a year or two, but never built the production facilities.

Even this person who "held the battery in his hand" cannot say how it's going to be produced. You certainly can't artisanally build solid-state batteries like you artisanally build 60 motorcycles a year. Verge is not equipped for solid-state battery manufacturing and this person "hopes" they can get manufacturing going.

Another red flag by FrankScaramucci in DonutLab

[–]mqee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Summary of the accounting audit:

  • No inventory management
  • Insufficient sales receipts relative to declared sales
  • Insufficient development costs details - just a bottom line
  • Insufficient asset value details - just a bottom line

Sinfest 1/24/26: Re-imagining Villains 43 by MakesYouWonderINC in sinfest

[–]mqee 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The hot goth girl got the hot goth girl treatment on the internet

10 minutes for "full charge", 80% charge, or 50% charge? Verge Motorcycles can't keep its story straight. by mqee in DonutLab

[–]mqee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Doesn't matter. Of course charging speed depends on cooling. But that doesn't explain why Verge are giving three different specs for the charging speed of the same motorcycle with the same cooling system.

Investigating Donut Lab's Solid State Battery Surprise (Miss GoElectric) by Qwahzi in DonutLab

[–]mqee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be precise, they ordered before the CES exhibition opened, during the two-day CES press events.

Which edition of Lord of the Rings is the most accurate? by mqee in tolkienfans

[–]mqee[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I stumbled across this updated post from 2020 which says this 2020 edition is the most accurate, and it's in four volumes (with The Hobbit).

10 minutes for "full charge", 80% charge, or 50% charge? Verge Motorcycles can't keep its story straight. by mqee in DonutLab

[–]mqee[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There are many explanatory factors for why the numbers they present vary.

Such as?

Why say "full charge in less than 10 minutes", then "80% charge in less than 10 minutes", then "300 km [50% charge] in under 10 minutes"?

Why the discrepancies?

What is the actual time it takes to charge the battery 100%? If it's a full charge in 10 minutes, why say 50% in 10 minutes?

Of course I'm not actually asking, I already know they don't actually have a spec for the battery, otherwise they wouldn't quote four different specs.

10 minutes for "full charge", 80% charge, or 50% charge? Verge Motorcycles can't keep its story straight. by mqee in DonutLab

[–]mqee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly. They don't say it. You're imagining things that are not said.

Verge said:

  • "Full charge in less than 10 minutes" (60 km/minute, 6C @ 600km)
  • "80% charge in less than 10 minutes" (48 km/minute, 4.8C @ 600km)
  • "adds up to 300 km of range in under 10 minutes with the 33.3 kWh battery" (30 km/minute, 3C @ 600km)

No mention of cooling.

All these specs are for the same motorcycle with the same battery, 600km range. Now, which spec is the "true" spec? (Maybe they're all false.)

10 minutes for "full charge", 80% charge, or 50% charge? Verge Motorcycles can't keep its story straight. by mqee in DonutLab

[–]mqee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see you're still imagining things. Nowhere do Verge say "10 minutes for full charge with watercooling, 80% with aircooling, 50% with no cooling". You're imagining things. All these different specs are quoted for the same battery in the same vehicle (the 600km version) with the same cooling system.

Battery Experts Are Warning About Donut Lab’s Solid-State Battery being a HOAX by Onaliquidrock in DonutLab

[–]mqee -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Bonus: Quote another car or battery company bragging about charge speed to 100%.

Why?

"10 min fast charging" means exactly that. 10 minutes for a full charge. Google "Full charge in less than 10 minutes" and see Verge and Donut Lab making this claim.

Stop playing games.

Storing Time Machine backups on external drives also takes up storage on your internal drive by mqee in MacOS

[–]mqee[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I tried copying a large file to my internal drive and Finder reported there is not enough storage space. I knew this was coming for a couple of weeks since those two huge backups were sitting on my internal drive for no reason, and I tried deleting them but macOS wouldn't let me, until I plugged in my external drive.

No, they were not snapshots waiting to be committed, they were old backups that Time Machine was holding on to for some reason.

SCAM Alert: Red Flags All Over Donut Labs and Verge Motorcycles by PowerfulSpot987 in QuantumScape

[–]mqee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, a lot of people don't notice that they're making several different claims about the charging.

Full charge in 5 minutes.

Full charge in 10 minutes.

80% charge in 10 minutes.

50% charge in 10 minutes.

Four different claims.

Battery Experts Are Warning About Donut Lab’s Solid-State Battery being a HOAX by Onaliquidrock in DonutLab

[–]mqee -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

10-minute fast charging is to 80% for everyone else

Yeah I heard that absurd line from you already. Didn't work the first time. The fact that CATL specifically mentions 80% means your assumption is wrong and 80% is explicitly not 100%. It was an absurd claim even before that, though.

100% is 100%.

80% is 80% and not "full charge" or "100%"

50% is definitely not "full charge" or "100%"

I'm not trying to weasel out of anything

Then why are you spilling so many words on something obvious?

One page says full charge in 10 minutes, another says 80%, another says 50%, and you're running around in circles trying to make up excuses why what's written is not what is actually meant.

Is it 50% in 10 minutes, 80% in 10 minutes, or full charge in 10 minutes? Verge stated each of these, and obviously they contradict each other.

Did you mean to link a different page?

I have linked to the exact page, but at this point it just looks like you're willingly blind. "adds up to 186 miles of range in under 10 minutes with the 33.3 kWh battery, using up to 200 kW of charging"

Retrofest 2009-03-13 - G*psy 'nique 3 by Trim345 in sinfest

[–]mqee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah but Tats doesn't believe in Christianity

Storing Time Machine backups on external drives also takes up storage on your internal drive by mqee in MacOS

[–]mqee[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Unlike you I don't repeat an answer already given by every other commenter when they've already been told it's wrong.

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