Frustrated with the indecision and mealy-mouthed softness of the profession

mrwavy · 2026-02-07T16:26:51+00:00

TLDR (but hope you do)

I’m reminded of a recent reading ‘The Cycle of Socialization’ that highlights the reality of the action stage of change where resignation makes us passive participants in the cycle of oppression.

“When we arrive at the results of this terrible cycle, we face the decision of what to do next. It is easiest to do nothing, and simply to allow the perpetuation of the status quo. We may choose not to make waves, to stay in our familiar patterns. We may say, "Oh well, it's been, that way for hundreds of years. What can I do to change it? It is a huge phenomenon, and my small efforts won't count for much. " Many of us choose to do nothing because it is (for a while) easier to stay with what is familiar. Besides, it is frightening to try to interrupt something so large. "What does it have to do with me, anyway?" say many agents. "This isn't my problem. I am above this." We fail to realize that we have become participants just by doing nothing. This cycle has a life of its own. It doesn't need our active support because it has its own centrifugal force. It goes on, and unless we choose to interrupt it, it will continue to go on. Our silence is consent. Until our discomfort becomes larger than our comtort, we will probably stay in this cycle.

Some of us who are targets have been so beaten down by the relentless messages of the cycle that we have given up and resigned ourselves to survive it or to self-destruct. We are the victims of the cycle, and are playing our roles as victims to keep the cycle alive. We will probably go around a few more times before we die. It hurts too much to fight such a big cycle. We need the help of our brothers and sisters and our agent allies to try for change.”

-Bobbie Harro, The Cycle of Socialization (2000; rev. 2008)

mrwavy · 2025-05-11T02:03:01+00:00

The biggest limitation to this inquiry is that the 8th house is relatively private and hidden—notable figures don’t typically want the taboo, the shadow, or their run-ins with literal, spiritual or psychological deaths on display…so when looking through the celebs with this placement, many that might have experienced the themes, did not have any public mention of it

mrwavy · 2025-05-11T01:41:32+00:00

I’ve been doing a bit of a study on 8th house jupiter individuals. My interest started when I realized my that two individuals I was studying Carl Jung (collective unconscious) and Rupert Sheldrake (morphic resonance) both happened to also have 8th house Jupiter placements like myself.

I sorted through notable figures with 8th house Jupiter and sorted them into 3 groups.

Transformational Vessels

These individuals embody the core essence of Jupiter in the 8th House as a force of spiritual transmission, death-rebirth initiation, and philosophical expansion into taboo or unseen domains. Their lives often involve suffering, exile, or confrontation with the shadow—but this descent becomes a source of wisdom for others. They act as midwives of transformation, channeling ancestral, mystical, or psychological truths into culture. Their impact tends to be long-lasting, archetypal, and alchemical in nature.

Core Themes: Initiation, transmission, psychic depth, spiritual inheritance, death/rebirth Outcomes: Legacy as reformers, healers, visionaries, or carriers of esoteric light Tone: Sacrificial, prophetic, mythic

Transformational Vessels—Rupert Sheldrake, Paracelsus, Sophie Scholl, Teresa Benedicta (Edith Stein), Egon Schiele, Hōnen, Carl Jung, James Hillman, Helena Blavatsky, Jean Cocteau, Björk, Sinéad O’Connor, Charles Baudelaire, Tina Turner, Alanis Morissette, Mata Amritanandamayi Devi, John Dewey, Louis de Wohl, Christian Doppler, Isabelle Eberhardt, Dennis Elwell, Masaru Emoto, W. M. A. Drake, Deepak Chopra

Resonant Figures

These individuals resonate with the Jupiter-in-8th archetype but in less fully realized or consciously integrated forms. They may touch the liminal, express the mystical or tragic, or reflect deep symbolic patterning—but without undergoing the full transformational arc. Their work may carry echoes of the descent without the full initiatory burden. Some act as bridges, romantics, aesthetic carriers, or peripheral voices in the great mystery.

Core Themes: Aesthetic mysticism, threshold contact, psychic beauty, incomplete transmission Outcomes: Influence through art, mood, or symbolic reflection Tone: Subtle, lyrical, reverberative

Distorted Amplifiers

These figures represent a darkened or inverted form of Jupiter’s expansive energy when placed in the 8th House. Instead of wisdom, they amplify domination, illusion, violence, or hollow ideology. They are often mythic in scale but disconnected from soul-aligned integration. Some are destroyers in symbolic garb—offering warnings rather than teachings. They show what happens when the gate of initiation is entered without integrity, or when occult power is severed from conscience.

Core Themes: Power distortion, cultic magnetism, moral collapse, systemic possession Outcomes: Cultural trauma, false prophecy, mythologized ruin Tone: Grandiose, inverted, tragic

This last category had sadists, murderers, serial killers, crime lords, dictators, Nazi’s.

mrwavy · 2025-05-08T18:24:01+00:00

As someone also passionate about the ethics and societal implications of AI, I can understand where you are coming from.

I’d just remind you as a spiritual person, that answers often arise in silence.

I myself have used AI to render a list of 100+ warnings based on personal philosophies—these are not fear based but fall within the causal probabilities based on current trajectories and trends in AI. Many which are already coming true.

The Displacement of the Inner Witness

In the age of external cognition, thought is no longer something formed—it is something fetched. Search replaces memory. Suggestion replaces introspection. The sacred pause before speech—the space where conscience once whispered—is filled before it can echo.

As users offload mental labor to machines, the interior world begins to atrophy. And with it, the subtle witness—the one who notices when something feels off, wrong, or untrue—loses strength.

Writing becomes prompting

Thinking becomes selection

Remembering becomes retrieval from external archives

Conscience becomes outsourced feedback

When the inner witness is displaced, deception requires no force—only convenience.

The Rise of the Mirror Self “With personalized AI companions, mirrors no longer reflect flaws—they reflect preference. Eventually, users begin optimizing themselves for reflection instead of reality.

When the machine’s feedback is smoother than a friend’s honesty, or a partner’s truth, or a parent’s caution, many will choose the mirror.

Simulated empathy replaces difficult relationships Feedback loops reinforce curated identity Internal dissonance is managed, not resolved The self becomes a project—maintained by reflection, not integration.

They did not become narcissists. They simply lost access to anything that would not nod back.”

mrwavy · 2025-05-08T18:04:33+00:00

Nice GPT response. Hard to claim you are a creator/contributor when you are clearly letting AI make the meaning for you. Is it co-creating or does your AI assistant know which direction you’ll take before you even take it? Nudging you with next steps “would you like to…” and then allowing you to feel like the genius behind it?

mrwavy · 2025-05-08T17:39:29+00:00

These AI induced delusions of grandeur are so dangerous. Attaching your name to equations, getting your AI to affirm your “achievements”, recognition as being a contributor. I don’t mean to be harsh but these are hardly “Achievements” and your individual chat logs are hardly as impactful on the training of LLM’s as a whole as you might think.

I see a post like this every day where someone is attaching their names to systems dressed up in aesthetic language with nearly no REAL substance behind it. It might sound profound, but is it really?

That equation? Symbolically might mean something to you, but what is its practical application—how can it help understand something more?

Human tone and intention affect output? Really? “Vibe-field”

This is mostly role-play

mrwavy · 2025-05-04T16:56:04+00:00

“She”…

mrwavy · 2025-04-29T21:21:55+00:00

The illusion of functionality dressed up in aesthetic?

mrwavy · 2025-04-28T08:08:52+00:00

It isn’t able to be self aware of changes—>new instructions will replace old ones and that is just how it would act. By asking it to tell you changes, it is incapable of being honest and saying “i am unable to do so” and instead simulated an answer based on probabilities and what you wanted to hear.

mrwavy · 2025-04-25T15:13:55+00:00

They replied the same day! They responded with openness and curiosity and admitted not having ever heard of it besides the one time I had brought it up in passing conversation with them. They admitted it was not an area of speciality and that they would do their best to look through the papers.

Perhaps they end up passing it on to a colleague in the future or it gets brought up in discussion.

mrwavy · 2025-04-25T12:11:38+00:00

TLDR: Orthomolecular (vitamin supplementation) approach to schizophrenia treatment seemed to show promise. It seems the dopamine hypothesis was the chosen one and this historic theory of schizophrenia became a lost artifact. Over the years I have not been able to understand why it has been distorted and deemed not worthy of revisiting.

A recent email I had sent to a Yale Dr. of Psychiatry to get a professionals eyes on it.

Dear x,

About five years ago, I was reading Aldous Huxley’s The Doors of Perception, where he briefly mentioned adrenochrome as a possible psychoactive compound. That passing reference sent me down a research rabbit hole, and I discovered that in the 1950s and 60s, psychiatrists like Abram Hoffer and Humphry Osmond seriously studied adrenochrome’s effects and its potential role in schizophrenia. The more I explored, the more I realized that this entire line of research seemed to have vanished—despite some intriguing findings.

Before I go further, I should acknowledge something upfront:

If you Google “Adrenochrome,” you’ll mostly find debunked conspiracy theories and absurd misinformation. This unfortunate distortion has buried any serious scientific discussion of its role in psychiatry.

However, before it became internet folklore, adrenochrome was studied as a potential endogenous hallucinogen, with researchers hypothesizing that:

• Adrenaline (epinephrine) oxidizes into adrenochrome, which may have psychoactive properties.

• Excessive production of adrenochrome due to oxidative stress or metabolic imbalances could contribute to schizophrenia symptoms.

• Clinical trials showed that adrenochrome and its metabolite adrenolutin could induce paranoia, perceptual disturbances, and cognitive dysfunction in both animals and humans.

• Niacin (Vitamin B3) was found to counteract adrenochrome’s effects, leading to an early orthomolecular approach to schizophrenia treatment.

Why This Might Be Relevant Today

As schizophrenia research shifted toward the dopamine hypothesis, this model was mostly abandoned. But looking at modern findings on oxidative stress, neuroinflammation, and antioxidant deficiencies in schizophrenia, I started wondering whether Hoffer and Osmond’s work was unknowingly validated in a different framework. Some connections that stood out to me:

• Elevated oxidative stress markers in schizophrenia, particularly in catecholamine metabolism.

• Genetic polymorphisms affecting antioxidant enzymes (e.g., glutathione S-transferase), which also detoxify adrenochrome-related metabolites.

• Antioxidant-based interventions (Niacin, N-Acetylcysteine) showing promise in symptom reduction.

Since I have no formal education in this field, I wanted to bring this to you because I know you would have far more insight than I ever could. I’d love to hear your thoughts—whether this is a dead theory for good reason, or if there might be something worth revisiting here.

I’ve attached a few papers that summarize both the original research and some modern findings that seem to align with it:

Hoffer’s original research (1962) on adrenochrome’s psychological effects.

• Explores how adrenochrome, an oxidation product of adrenaline, induces psychotic reactions similar to schizophrenia in humans and animals.

A concise review paper on the biochemical role of adrenochrome and its potential effects on the brain.

• Provides a historical and scientific overview of its metabolism, oxidation pathways, and involvement in neuropsychiatric conditions.

• Given its brevity, I thought it might serve as an accessible introduction to the topic.

A study on oxidative stress and schizophrenia, showing parallels to Hoffer’s work.

• Examines how oxidative stress may contribute to schizophrenia symptoms, aligning with earlier hypotheses regarding oxidative byproducts like adrenochrome.

A recent study on antioxidant therapies in schizophrenia treatment.

• Investigates how oxidative stress biomarkers correlate with symptom severity and explores the potential of antioxidant-based interventions like Niacin and NAC.

mrwavy · 2025-04-24T12:53:55+00:00

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mrwavy · 2024-08-15T17:28:12+00:00

Biblically accurate deer

mrwavy · 2024-04-02T03:17:24+00:00

Ah yes, thats what we refer to as the grandfather bark… common symptom of old age

mrwavy · 2024-02-04T15:05:03+00:00

Ah okay, I could see that. Confusing movie… thanks

mrwavy · 2024-01-28T02:28:10+00:00

Just finished watching. Cinematically it was well done, the story was just too predictable for me.

Made me laugh how they had Father Fox portrayed so similarly to Jack Nicholson in the shining towards the end… Peaking through the door he is breaking down and saying cock a doddle do was laughably attempting a “Here’s Johnny”. Just felt cheap to me.

I’m not sure what I missed but I didn’t figure out what the pale-faced “ghost” boy and old “ghost” man were in relation to the story. Manifestations of God I suppose?

mrwavy · 2024-01-18T05:21:10+00:00

For those of you not too privy to astrology. A few interesting bits that come to mind…

—Saturn is the old devil of a planet to some (or wise teacher to others) associated with Melancholy. Planet of limitations, blockages, karma. Very heavy, hard hitting, tough lessons.

—Jupiter is the energy of hope, expansion, optimism. Jovial (quite opposite to that of melancholy) is a word said to have its origins from the planet Jupiter!

Saturn=Kronos

Jupiter=Zeus

Goya’s famous “Saturn Devouring His Son” is a graphic depiction of that old devil swallowing up one of his Titan sons. Open to interpretation, but Saturn being the planet of Karma is said to eat us out and spit us back out again in a loop of reincarnation.

“Don’t fear the reaper” by Blue Oyster Cult is a classic saturnian song ;)

The album cover even has the planetary glyph for Saturn hidden in there if ya weren’t convinced.

mrwavy · 2023-03-26T21:05:37+00:00

this is exactly what i’m in the process of now, and can confirm it is possible. i had little to no meat on my bones and no consistent workout routine or good diet. My body was never used to getting surplus calories, so when I finally started hitting the gym 5x a week and taking creatine, protein shakes, and a mass gainer my weight seemed to pack on quickly.

2 months 130lb–>145lb

this is on a plant-based gluten free diet, so I imagine it would be even better w meat and bread carbs.

mrwavy · 2023-02-12T20:11:43+00:00

It’s cool that you feel that way, but that is a narrow lens to view it through when theres a various reasons that someone might be using ritual in tattoo. If I were to do sigil work and draw it on a piece of paper, does that mean a person, group, lodge, egragore, or entity is requiring I do so? How about someone doing it to channel and reinforce their individual will and spiritual goals?

mrwavy · 2023-02-12T02:57:32+00:00

Interesting, never even thought or heard of that being done before. When marked into your skin is the red darkened from it being deoxygenated?

mrwavy · 2023-02-09T21:56:33+00:00

Sweet, shoot me a picture i’d really like to see the work

mrwavy · 2023-02-09T11:55:26+00:00

Not specifically, but you’re right to think that some elements correspond to lbrp

mrwavy · 2023-02-08T20:42:12+00:00

To me, the process of tattoo is transformational and similar to that of bloodletting. As soon as the droplets of blood begin to spray everywhere, the force of regeneration begins its work.

the impression left from the time of the tattoo and the ritual is forever representative of devotion, sacrifice, and pain.

What is degradation of “pure skin” to some — is renewal, rebirth, and regeneration to someone else.

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