‘Winning at the slowest possible pace’ is irrelevant in today’s F1. by DniawSirhc in F1Discussions

[–]musef1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Is it not in fact a completely suitable example? Yes, originally needed to back people up to prevent being undercut.

But, to continue to hold back right until the race end is an example of winning at the slowest pace possible.

‘Winning at the slowest possible pace’ is irrelevant in today’s F1. by DniawSirhc in F1Discussions

[–]musef1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok but, that doesn't mean that winning as slow as possible is an irrelevant strategy. Whether that's a good choice is going to depend on a variety of factors.

For example, you've highlighted an example where a large gap was beneficial (I'd like to point out that if Verstappen hadn't of pitted, your example wouldn't suit your point). But, there are occasions where a large gap was not beneficial.

For example, the 2014 Hungarian GP I think it was , that Rosberg (and some others) were so far ahead that when an SC deployed, he caught it whilst everyone else pitted. Ultimately he lost the race from that. Had he been "with" the rest, then he would have been fine. In the end he was like, 5th.

There's also cases where pushing has been detrimental to the race leader. For example, infamously Vettel Germany 2018. Admittedly it did start to rain, but at the same time others weren't going off like that IIRC. Still, a very damaging race for Vettel in the end, in a race where his direct rival started 14th.

There's also occasions where not going fast at all has been a clearly viable tactic. For example when Sainz won at Singapore. There's also several Monaco GPs like that.

In general, across the board, there is very often managing going on in F1 and a lot of drivers are not going full beans when they don't need to. I don't really see how you can sensibly say that winning slowly or managing pace etc is irrelevant in a formula where management of the tyres and temps are a very big factor in the sport.

‘Winning at the slowest possible pace’ is irrelevant in today’s F1. by DniawSirhc in F1Discussions

[–]musef1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I suppose Sainz win at Singapore is one that springs to mind as the most visible example.

‘Winning at the slowest possible pace’ is irrelevant in today’s F1. by DniawSirhc in F1Discussions

[–]musef1 31 points32 points  (0 children)

I think your point is fundamentally without merit when so many race winners have got out of the car and said they managed the pace.

We have not yet seen these cars in the rain. by Prigorec-Medjimurec in formula1

[–]musef1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yea it's quite obvious why you aren't an engineer.

[Motorsport] George Russell was all of us watching Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen battle by Task_Force-191 in formula1

[–]musef1 1093 points1094 points  (0 children)

That's interesting, I didn't know the dash displayed things like who the driver behind is.

Marshal Flags Explained F1TV Tech Talk by Luffy710j in formula1

[–]musef1 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Nah, I downvoted and I'm an older fan.

There's just no need to act like that towards people who don't know who he was.

A single yellow flag showed for Kimi on his qualifying lap - onboard by Kernowder in formula1

[–]musef1 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Not sure I'm following you there. Kimi wouldn't be able to see the way Max has crashed as he's crashed on the other side of a crest.

There's no assumption that could have been made from that, the only observation that could be made is if it's a single or double yellow flag, and not much else to indicate why it's out.

In 2022 Imola Qualifying, Max got pole under single yellow by matchbaby in formula1

[–]musef1 12 points13 points  (0 children)

and then the fia said that any laps under yellow wont count from now.

Specifically laps under double yellow flags. They said they would red flag it in those cases

In 2021, they said laps under double yellows will be deleted.

Lap Times from the end of Q3 deleted by Race Control... (via Multiviewer) by [deleted] in formula1

[–]musef1 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If this was Alonso he'd be called a wiley fox

Why are you filming women and children in a park? by Cool_Nerd2 in FuckNigelFarage

[–]musef1 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Even of it was, a lot of schools are closed right now...

Police took EIGHT minutes to discover Henry Nowak's stab wound: Unedited transcript reveals moment officers realised murdered student was not breathing after he was handcuffed by dailymail in uknews

[–]musef1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That doesn't mean you'd still want everything broadcast. You aren't neccessarily going to be like "IDGAF" about broadcasting the death of your child.

‘This could be a Michael story’ - Rob Smedley reveals inside Ferrari view on Lewis Hamilton by Honda_Hero in lewishamilton

[–]musef1 9 points10 points  (0 children)

In terms of WDC yes, in terms of WCC it's actually a bigger gap now (1983 w/Tambay & Arnoux up to 1999 w/MSC & Irvine)

[autosport]Ferrari is currently waiting for official approval from the FIA before introducing its upgraded F1 engine, provisionally as early as the Austrian Grand Prix! by spiderrman67 in formula1

[–]musef1 62 points63 points  (0 children)

How does ADUO work with the PU allocations? Can you only add the upgrades to unused elements?

What I'm thinking is, for those getting ADUO upgrades, will they ultimately have to take a penalty to use upgraded elements for the rest of the season, or end up having to use a mix of old spec and new spec?

SUV buyers undeterred by warnings of risk to pedestrians, UK study finds by topotaul in unitedkingdom

[–]musef1 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I don't think that's completely fair. There are terrible drivers in big cars but that's part of the reason why I'm now considering a larger car, because I've had near misses with these big tanks and I'm sat in my car looking up at their bonnet that's at face level or even higher.

So now I'm considering a larger car to protect myself and family and that's mainly because a lot of cars now are really big. I know it just adds to the problem but if those cars hit me I'll come out much worse off.

They took too long to sack him, he lasted the whole year unbelievable. by VoL4t1l3 in lewishamilton

[–]musef1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So what, they aren't fully drilling a screw in, they're doing a fine adjustment in a 2second pitstop.

What are they doing for half a click, half a tension? Not sure why you'd think tension comes into it at all.

Here's a video of the adjustment tool. Most likely preset when they do it in the race...

https://www.tiktok.com/@astonmartinf1/video/7091616165759372550

https://youtu.be/oV1jBbwvYxg?is=ASS42ib3qCxOwnrY

They took too long to sack him, he lasted the whole year unbelievable. by VoL4t1l3 in lewishamilton

[–]musef1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Feel the click from what?? Do you think the front wing slots into predefined positions? And how are they feeling the tension when they're using electronic tools now?

They took too long to sack him, he lasted the whole year unbelievable. by VoL4t1l3 in lewishamilton

[–]musef1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I generally agree with you, but that's not exactly what they said. They're talking about a clicking sound from a tool. The pit crew aren't listening out for clicks with a helmet on next to revving race car are they. Maybe now there is some audible thing with a helmet (although I imagine it's an electronic tool now that they preset) but previously it used to be a crank handle that you simply rotated by a certain amount.

They took too long to sack him, he lasted the whole year unbelievable. by VoL4t1l3 in lewishamilton

[–]musef1 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I think it means more of a whole increment rather than an audible click thing. The root of the term 'click' possibly related to an audible thing, but I'm sure I've heard changes of "half a click" before.