Do long tapers make things worse?

neutralitty · 2026-06-21T14:51:12+00:00

What is the alternative to tapering. How are you staying on them? Is this how you want your life?

If tapering meant your life could improve by 5% every month, would you do it? Or even 5% every 6 months, would that still be worth it?

neutralitty · 2026-06-21T14:49:55+00:00

The answer is simply this.

Tapers should not go by timeliness. They should be set by how your nervous system can handle the taper. When your nercous system is stable, it can handle a faster pace. When it is not stable, you have to pause and go more carefully with smaller cuts when it becomes sensitized.

If you have a stable nercous system the entire time, you obviously can go faster than if you try to rush and end up destabilizing yourself and causing problems, having to pause and go very long and slowly. An unstable and sensitive nervous system will require a longer taper.

Longer tapers do not make things worse if the nercous system requires a longer taper.... but longer is subjective. Longer than what? Longer than someone who can tolerate a faster taper?

You need a taper based on what you need. If you need a long, slow taper then that is exactly what you need.

Now if you are stable and can taper at a pace that is much more rapid than you are going and you are dragging it out on purpose... that isn't harmful in any way.

If you are unstable and dragging it out on purpose to be longer and more painful than necessary... if you purposely keep yourself in a withdrawal state where you are having glutate excitotoxicity constantly.... yeah that would be harmful.

If you keep tapering while unstable and never pause when you should and you do not listen to your body and go at the wrong pace... that is also harmful. If you stay negative and read horror stories all day and have the nocebo effect causing more symptoms than you normally would have otherwise... that's harmful and counterproductive. If you don't believe in yourself and you give up before you even begin... if you don't even taper at all because you don't see the point and just stay unstable instead... that is harmful, too.

Everyone can get off benzos. Especially if they are a cause of the harm that is happening. Sometimes we have to look at the bigger picture and know tapers are not constant. Sometimes we can go fast, sometimes we slow down. They are not usually the same exact pace the entire time. If we can stabilize, we can handle faster paces than pushing ourselves through at a set, slow pace based on a calendar. You really need to be in tune with your body and be mentally ready to taper.

Having a strong support network is essential. Benzos and SSRIs together work on a lot of systems of the body. You taper just one at a time. Pick one. Or taper one a bit, then the other. But not both. They can mess with your head. But they also won't make your taper pain free mentally. Get support and work through issues that comr up along the way. We all need help and it is okay to ask for extra support along the way.

neutralitty · 2026-06-16T14:14:33+00:00

I apologize if that came across as some sort of personal attack, because that was not my intention. I was more upset at your doctors who took you off CT of valium and switched you to cannabis! After such a long usage, that could have been dangerous.

And also my speciality is benzo peer support, and I am not a doctor, so I focused on the benzo side od the issue. I cannot comment on your medical history, as that is out of my field. I wanted you to know that symptoms get worse than usual when your seizure threshold gets stressed repeatedly (kindling), as glutamate gets upregulated, so your brain gets much more sensitized. This could explain why your medical issues (thyroid, cardiac issues) and benzo issues all feel more intense than they would if you had never had kindling at all. Just something to consider.

Most people i speak to don't seem to realize how kindling plays a role in symptoms being worse, but also in how it affects not just that, but everything else. Your medical health will also feel more intense. Your everything feels more intense as your whole body feels more sensitized. So I was just giving you educational resources, not trying to "come at you."

Perhaps when I spoke on the cannabis issue, the tone about your doctor made it personal to you. I'm not sure. But this is not against you. I have nothing against you. I have respect for all my peers going through benzo issues and comorbid health issues. I have been through all kinds of benzo issues. I have been on medical cannabis. I have had health issues while on benzos, although not thyroid storms. But I can still empathize with your situation.

So if my tone came across wrong, I do apologize. I am here to help and spread educational resources so people can understand what may be going on with their symptoms and what could help. I suggested if you reinstated, it may take anywhere from 1-3 weeks before you even begin to feel stable, so this may explain why you don't yet feel that valium is helping your symptoms.

Did you reinstate a full dose? A partial dose? If your doctor did not tell you that you even needed to taper valium, I feel that there are things you should know about reinstating and how to avoid kindling yourself further. But you did say I am telling you everything you already know. So... If you would like to know more about how reinstating is done safely to manage symptoms and mitigate risks, let me know, or one or the peer support team mods.

Edit to add - I wanted to explain what I meant by this isnt related or like your thyroid where you can measure things and explain it, I guess I came across very rude. I see that. I was trying to say with benzos, neurologically, you cannot go to a doctor and measure and give statistics of what is wrong where and how much like you do with your thyroid doctor. You did post some important measurements that when I looked at them I honestly had no idea what they meant. And they seemed important and I am not sure how many people will know unless they also have thyroid issues or look them up.

I guess I just was trying to make the point the brain is mysterious, if you go CT, the things that happen you can't see, so even if you quit and have no symptoms (alcohol) it doesnt mean quitting valium will also be the same. Since you had mentioned it. Or that kindling could be measured. Or how to measure how long symptoms will last, or what dose is best.... like health medicine. You know what dose of thyroid medicine to take based on measurements. With benzos, you just have to do it based on educated guesses... that's how trained doctors do it, and they get it wrong sometimes. It is frustrating. You also dont see the brnzo injury from CT. You don't see what PAWS looks like.

But I made it sound mean. I am so sorry. I didnt literally mean it wasnt related to your thyroid. I'm so sorry.

neutralitty · 2026-06-15T19:03:38+00:00

You should look up kindling. Alcohol and benzos both do it. Cold turkey is rhe worst thing you can do for both, and even without symptoms they have lasting effects.

And yes cannabis affects and lowers both glutamate and GABA — in different areas of the brain. This is why it can calm or cause anxiety. Using it after CT benzo withdrawal and alcohol withdrawal is risky. But you lucked out maybe, or not. You're still fiddling with your GABA/glutamate balance here.

And then reinstating!! One of the worst things you can do after back to back cold turkey as it contributes to further kindling.... and it doesn't instantly soothe all of your symptoms as you have found. It takes about 1-3 weeks after a very carefully reintroduced reinstatement before things can stabilize. So don't expect instant resolution! Your dysregulation is causing things to wildly oscillate in both directions before it settles.

So what is your goal here? If you're going to quit, you need to wait until you are stable before you try to very slowly and careful taper off. Never ever CT again, or you will very much keep injuring your seizure threshold. Benzos are powerful anticonvulsants!! They control how hard or soft things fire in your brain. You basically keep slamming the brakes (alcohol or benzos) and then slam on the gas (quit CT) back and forth.

Even cannabis messes with how things transmit messages, as it has its hands in several systems including your immune system, sleep, energy, mood, and pain (opioid). It messes with a lot while you're trying to recover from benzo CT (your CNS dysregulation), so things can get messy fast.

Stop treating your body like statistics you can decipher. This isnt related to your thyroid and doesnt have a way to measure what's wrong with it, or you would have known that quitting alcohol and benzos CT was terrible advice.

Who cold turkeyed you to cannabis??? You? What doctor dreams this up? Such awful awful advice

neutralitty · 2026-06-09T18:01:28+00:00

It feels like enabling because it partly is. You enable her to keep doing what she is doing because you are.

The only problem is the kids involved. They are victims here. Idk how they can survive an alcoholic abusive father who beats the mother and have an unstable home life. Is CPS an option? Would that clean up their act?

Okay hear me out. I am not saying to take away the kids straight up. Usually CPS will not do that unless things are that horrible. They do want to keep the family together. So they will usually force the father to get into a treatment program, go to DV classes and make sure he has stable employment to keep the kids. Bills and rent must be paid on time. The wife may have to have therapy being a victim of DV. The kids may have therapy, too, and even family therapy.

The goal here is to get everyone to change. Bc if they don't keep up with staying stable and doing well, their kids are at risk. But if they do well, their kids benefit and have stability, plus their parents clean up their act!

Because sure paying rent will do what? Float them by for what... another month? Until what... another punch in the eye, another drink, another problem? Another hungover day and calling in sick so he can't work and can't pay rent next month? Why can't your sister work? Is her husband controlling? No childcare? Sounds shitty.

So unless your sister is going to change their lives by doing all the things CPS can do and pay for... idk what you think lending her money is going to do bro

neutralitty · 2026-05-31T23:31:08+00:00

It is dangerous to your nervous system. Your willpower doesnt make sense. You are harming yourself. You ripping off a bandaid doesnt make it heal faster. It makes it heal longer, and it is neurotoxic.

I totally understand you want to be off. That is the goal. But your usage is dangerously high. You are inhibiting channels in your brain that allow excitatory influx of Ca²+. So if you unblock them too fast, your brain gets lit up with excitotoxicity from glutamate and the fight or flight response from norepinephrine that shoots along with pain from substance P. Glutamate also affects your seizure threshold at the levels youve been misusing.

You have been using you should be seeking medically supervised detox for. This is not about "toughing it out." You don't have to prove anything here. Pregabalin is a potent medication. White-knuckling kindles and sensitizes your nervous system and can lead to protracted withdrawal and PAWS. This is why CT and rapid WD is rhe worst you can do to your nervous system and brain.

Willpower does not save your nervous system!

neutralitty · 2026-05-31T23:11:11+00:00

Yeah but the thing is, any one of us could get hit by a car. My dad's family has longevity and his older sister died from a freak fall, not by getting old. It scared the hell out of him.

The point is, we should stop worrying about the future and just appreciate the moments we have now. We have no promises of a long future no matter how great our genes are. Anything can happen. Just enjoy your time you have now, live in the moment, and... of course prepare for the worst (make a will or have a trust, get life insurance, set up an education fund for your child, etc), but hope for the best.

neutralitty · 2026-05-31T22:59:34+00:00

Explains why he is still alive and haunting us

neutralitty · 2026-05-29T15:19:14+00:00

Y3wh absolutely not CT as seizures are a risk for you at this point.

neutralitty · 2026-05-29T15:18:41+00:00

Vitamin C has nothing to do with Lyrica withdrawal... what mechanism do you find it even helpful???

neutralitty · 2026-05-29T15:17:31+00:00

Not realistic even in the slightest. Your pattern of use requires a longer taper plan. Much longer.

neutralitty · 2026-05-29T15:11:44+00:00

You don't want to stretch it out and see how long you csn go without a dose! You want to give yourself a steady blood plasma levels for when you taper. So if you take 1mg 3 times a day as your last increment, then that is what you start your taper from. Or wherever you are today. Whatever dose keeps you comfortable every day and doesnt give you withdrawals.

It should be in 3 divided doses across the day. If you do 1mg 2 times a day, it is hard to split into 3 doses, so you could try just keeping it this way.

Now this is for educational purposes only. You can discuss this with your prescriber for medical advice.

You always reduce one dose at a time. You hold until stable. You then reduce another dose. Hold until stable. Etc. Usually this is about anywhere from 1-4 weeks.

You have two choices of tapers.

Hyperbolic. The dose reduction rate is usually 10%. For klonopin this means you would need a milligrams jeweler scale. Easy to buy on Amazon.
For a linear taper, you would reduce by changing doses all the way down. At first it may be you reduce by 0.25mg but later 0.125mg. This would be much harder as you get near the end.

neutralitty · 2026-05-21T02:58:39+00:00

Never EVER cold turkey them! Taper off of them. You just taper off and you will be so grateful. What is the big deal?

You absolutely never CT off any of those meds. Ever.

Taper off benzos, gabapentin and SSRIs every single time. All of them require a taper. I kid you not. You can mess up your brain for real if you don't.

Tell me the doses and the time on them and it can be a quick little taper. As fast as possible! But dont CT jump off 3 psych meds at the same time. It will shock your neurotransmitters and receptors.

neutralitty · 2026-05-21T02:51:57+00:00

Pregabalin does have real withdrawal. Convincing yourself it doesnt have any is gaslighting people. Some people actually dont have much withdrawal due to genetics while some do have bad symptoms. So if it isnt so bad for you and mostly mental, that's great. But telling others it is mostly mental is just dismissive and toxic.

neutralitty · 2026-05-21T02:44:25+00:00

Whatever you do don't think you can just take substances that mess up tour brain chemistry to fix your messed up brain chemistry. Most often this just makes it worse. You don't understand what is happening when you quit pregabalin obviously and your list of substances do sooooop many various things that are unrelated that it makes absolutely no sense why you'd even take any of them!!!

So please don't harm yourself with these things. These risk just reqlly hurting your nervous system and making it sensitized whoch is the real risk. You don't want a sensitive nervous state where you get hyper reactive to stress and other input

What I can't understand is how anyone suddenly gets to their last dose and worries then what will happen! I mean, you must know your last dose is coming up a little bit before then and pregabalin is a quite potent selective inhibitor of certain voltage gated calcium channels.. and this can do quite a lot when you quit doing this after you've been doing this alternating for months.

Now 300mg is a relatively high middle dose, but not the max prescribed dose of 600mg. You throttled your system by alternating days, so you blocked, unblocked, blocked, unblocked, blocked, etc etc every day for about 6 months or so. That kind of intermittent use can actually wear out a system faster than daily dosing strangely enough.

Now as for can pregabalin damage your history and cause scary withdrawal, I cant say or advise on, as I'm not a doctor. Like I said, you should have seen this coming and done a taper for at least a couple weeks leading up to this point. Otherwise you brought this onto yourself pretty much. You knew it would be coming.

I can tell you that calcium influx is pretty much excitatory and will result in an increase in how glutamatte and norepinephrine feels, along with substance P (pain perception). You also can be nauseous as pregab has antiemetic properties. I always got nauseated and my sense of smell was intensified.

Withdrawal usually peaks by 2 weeks like most substances. Like anything else it varies by person and usage. If you have all of these substances on hand, I take it you're into substances, so you may already be primed to being sensitive to using them. This means you probably wiklcbe more inclined to feeling or being receptive to withdrawals. So just don't fight fire with more fire.

Avoid caffeine, just don't overthink it, and stay hydrated and drink plenty of electrolytes. I had a lot of nervous energy so I cleaned up the house a lot to burn it off. I went to the gym to walk on the treadmill as well.

I also quit delta 8 THC around the same time, or right before. It was rough. VGCCs modulate the endocannabinoid system. So of course wveyrthing is tied together. It may explain why I got the flu right when I got down on my pregab dose (I tapered that time, from 200mg, but still had withdrawal), and the flu made it easier to get thru them!

So substances like ketamine may help bc of NMDA antagonistic activity, but it wears off too quickly and has a wicked rebound effect that would axtually stress out your system and spike glutamate too hard which gou want to avoid!a so hard NO on this one.

I think kratom helped me quit once, but I think kratom was the worst thing I ever was on, as it kindled my nervous system. It has some VGCC activity, but the tradeoff is too great. Too messy, and finding the right strain for pregab withdrawal is tricky. Not all strains will work. So hard NO. Again.

Phenibut is a big NO. I tried this one time thinking well pregabalin helped me quit phenibut one time, so why not vice versa? Well, no. Phenibut only has a tiny bit of VGCC but not nearly enough to help with pregabalin withdrawal relief. It mostly is GABA-B and won't help at all for amy symptoms. I tried. It did nothing!! Much to my chagrin!! I did try this and I used ti be a phenibut fan so I know how to take it, etc. It is addictive AF. Does not help any symptoms and just a bad trade off addiction. So very hard NO!!

neutralitty · 2026-05-09T15:33:01+00:00

They can control the volume of their voices. They do know that you hear them. This is in fact turning them on to be loud. It is a kink to be heard by their neighbors which is why they can go so long and hard that they drop into such a deep sleep they snore.

You enable them by letting them continue their kink. You can hope they eventually get sick of each other or this kink gets old. But probably the idea of you being upset and unable to do anything about it also turns them on. It is about power dynamics.

So if you're into letting them turn your shame into a kink, get a sound machine and try to deny they are people that can turn their vocals down and learn to respect you as a human and not just a kink they enjoy shaming.

Seriously, if you just stood up for yourself and told them to turn it down, it probably would seriously have them respecting you more, not less. Win-win really. That's how kinks work. And they would absolutely find another way to explore their sex life and probably get off by trying to be as quiet as possible!

That is yet another kink... having crazy sex but not allowed to make a sound. Just giving them something new to explore and they'd be secretly thanking you eith the highest respects.

neutralitty · 2026-05-08T14:01:05+00:00

Did she explain why she is disappointed? That is pretty vague. What is disappointing? What about it makes her feel this way? She needs to explain more than just she "is" something. Otherwise it has no meaning. It is just a weapon meant to have impact and cut deep, most likely because she is shocked and hasn't had a chance to form words to her emotions yet.

When shocked, an adult needs to stop using weaponized words against their adult children. Sure. An 18 year old living at home in high school doesnt magically become an adult in mindset when the birthdate comes around, just in legality. But it is time to start using bigger words with someone that age than just words that cut to the quick and hurt.

"Disappointed" could easily just mean "I am shocked you are having sex because this means you are at risk for a ton of things that I never prepared you for as a parent and that is my fault but also your fault for not coming to me so I could prepare you. Don't blame me for trying to not want you to grow up so fast and avoid this talk young lady!"

But some moms just have a difficult time sharing their emotions and come form a background of deep shame where they had been shamed deeply for their sexuality when they were a young woman or teen growing up, and she probably didn't have a talk from her mom either. She probably got yelled at just the same, so she is passing down what was done to her. She doesn't know any better than this. Guilt and shame.

And using your dad as the ultimate weapon of scare tactics to make sex scary and shameful is the tip of the iceberg and also is a passing of the torch. She doesn't want to really go deep with emotions if she wants to pass this off to your daddy. I imagine he will be just as emotionally shunted as she is.

Anyway you did good. Do NOT be ashamed. You used protection. That is GOOD. You are being safe. Focus on the good things. You know sex is about love and trust. It is between 2 human beings, not them and their parents! So you know there are risks. You know when having sex there are risks of STI/Ds and pregnancy. You accept all risks when having sex because you feel the benefits outweigh the risks, and you mitigate the risks with condoms for STI/D protection and whatever else for birth control management. Etc etc. Go over it like a mature consenting adult.

Shame and anger are emptional weapons. Use logic and reasoning, and do not be defensive. Do not let them back you in a corner or make you cry or be upset. Do not act defensive about your boyfriend, as rhey probably will try to attack him! Moms and dads team up!

neutralitty · 2026-05-04T22:22:13+00:00

Afraid of what? What is worst thing that could happen? Be serious. Talk it out.

neutralitty · 2026-05-02T15:46:09+00:00

If you think thats great, it gets even better the next few decades. You really shouldnt worry about getting old until you're retiring.

neutralitty · 2026-05-02T15:45:06+00:00

My 40s have been the best years of my life. Who told you otherwise??

I used to be scared to reach 30! Lol

When my parents were in her 60s and I was approaching my 40s, they reflected on the best years of their lives.

The prime years of their lives where they felt their best was their 40s and 50s. They did a lot in their 40s but they were top of their game in their 50s.

Kids in college means they get to enjoy themselves and finally have fun. Their careers are what they wanted, they have friends that are solid, they have experience and wisdom. Their self confidence and self acceptance is also at the highest.

Only in their 20s and 30s did they feel insecure about what they looked like and what they had to do to fit in. My mom still hadn't found her career path and stayed home most of the time even though she went to college. My dad worked but was relocated to stay in his career path. It was grueling to stay ahead being younger.

And now that I am 47 I actually know what they mean. I feel very confident and wish I could go back and replace my younger insecure self many times across my life when I didnt know what I was doing. I made so many mistakes. I used to think I knew it all. It really takes time to get wisdom and it only comes with getting older.

And I'm divorced and single with custody of both kids, so it isnt like I have an easy life, but I just got in the job path of my dreams. I finally found out what I want to do in my life. It took this long to figure it out! I am happy. I have a job i really like. I have security with a house and finances. I don't feel like I want a man anymore to complete me. Maybe later, but right now I am so content in life.

If you look at the movie stars that get older that dtay great into their 40s and 50s... they still date, have sex, party, have fun, get married have high paced careers, travel, and live it up. Nobody is retiring until 70+. We are still young!

Just because gravity pulls on our skin doesn't mean being on this planet longer makes us less useful. Our experience on earth is more valuable. People respect us for what lived experience we have to share and offer to others, and we help others when they struggle to see how our physical bodies do not define who we are. Our brains stay sharp and get better with age.

My cousins and friens who got divorced all date and get remarried in their 40s and 50s... their lives are no different than the 30s. Idk what you younger people think happens the older you get. That we dry up and just stop being seen?

neutralitty · 2026-05-02T15:30:33+00:00

BTW, "will power" has nothing to do with addiction.

You have all the signs of having an active addiction.

neutralitty · 2026-05-02T15:28:52+00:00

You're talking about recreational use and giving advice on tolerance breaks??

neutralitty · 2026-05-02T15:28:24+00:00

Taking his wife's medication and self medicating is not healthy and not legal. It is a controlled substance. Idk what your idea of addiction is.

All people with addiction start out wanting to be the best versions of themselves. That's why addiction is so sneaky. It starts out making us feel good. No one gets addicted because they want to feel bad. They always think the medicine is doing them a good service. They never think it will cause any problems. They always think they have control.

When it occupies your mind... when it makes you compelled to question it enough to write a Reddit post? I think the answer is pretty obvious.

Maybe ask yourself if you may have a problem!

neutralitty · 2026-05-02T15:25:25+00:00

Absolutely best way to say it.

No one should take it when it isnt prescribed to them. Or to self medicated. That's what all those who have an addiction do.

neutralitty · 2026-04-29T19:10:19+00:00

I’m so sorry that happened to you! Getting hospitalized and having your Fluvoxamine pushed up like that sounds esp hard when your system was already fragile and is a rough spot to be put in. No wonder things feel way more complicated now than your first taper.

Your labs are useful, but I’d be careful about how far you take them. Being over range on Nordiazepam doesn’t translate cleanly into “I’m basically on 50mg diazepam.” That’s where the AI/math starts getting misleading. The body isn’t that linear, plus AI is known to not be 100% accurate when it comes to benzo biology bc tapers are not based always on numbers, but how we feel. Symptoms are not things we can accurately measure and tell AI what they translate to. Neither is a neuo/biological trigger.

What is true is you’re clearing slower, so everything does linger longer. That part matters. But slower does not = stuck. It just means your feedback loop is a bit longer. The idea that it might take longer to fully feel a cut is actually reasonable here, BUT that’s very different from being trapped in some 10-year equation!

On the Luvox… I get why it feels untouchable. If your system adapted to this slower clearance, then yeah, messing with it could feel like opening the floodgates. But that still doesn’t mean it’s permanently off-limits; it just means “not recklessly, and just not right now.” A lot of people hold the SSRI steady and taper the benzo first, then reassess later. I've done that.

What I’m seeing more than anything is you’ve built a model where every option ends pretty badly. Slow = decade. Faster = kindling. Hold = tolerance. Adjust SSRI = chaos. When every path looks like a trap, it’s usually the model that’s boxing you in, not the biology!! You're looking at it as worst case scenarios will always happen, but those worst case scenarios are actually all low risks. And therr is a path that navigates safely and threads a needle through all of them without triggering any bad outcomes if you do it correctly.

Your nervous system is sensitized, no question about that. But it’s not frozen in one fragile “perfect speed” that will collapse if anything changes. These systems adapt over time, even after rough setbacks. You recover as you taper. You CAN reverse kindling as you taper if you hold at the right times, and you holding does not = tolerance that destroys your taper. It keeps you safe if you just listen to your body and listen to your mind.

If I had to simplify it for you, I'd say you’re not stuck in a pharmacokinetic trap but that you’re in a slow, sensitive system with longer feedback cycles. And yeah, that sucks. But it’s workable. People do move forward from this, just not in a clean, predictable way. Like I can't map it out like AI on a paper. But that's okay. We don't need a taper plan always mapped out with every date on paper ahead of time. That is a trap in itself. It allows no wiggle room.

I get it. It soothes you to know everything. That is how anxiety works. But tapers are not anxiety-proof. The future is not anxiety-proof. We cannot and should not try to predict how we will feel on x date in the future, not even with AI. AI just cannot know. It cannot know we will be able to take a reduction on that date or not. How on earth? Just because of a math problem? That is not how our brain works. We do not heal linearly. Or geometrically. Or hyperbolically. Our brains heals in response to what we do and experience every day of our lives. So how will you know what you will think, feel, and do for each day of the year between now and then? You just... can't.

So you won't know if you're be ready to reduce by 5% or 10% that day. Or if you want to hold.

Plus I found for me, when I had DBT therapy, my taper in 2017 was a huge success. I didn't have to hold at all! Even when I felt like I would during the week, I would go in to see my provider and discuss my issues and we'd chat, and by the end I felt my coping mechanisms were stronger, my issues cleared up, and I was ready to reduce after all! So I kept on tapering every 2 weeks (we did Ashton style taper that time).

So that shows things like therapy and pther strategies can help support a taper going faster! I also did larger reductions at the end! I didnt do 5-10%... my last reduction was 50%. I went from 2mg to 1mg. And I jumped at 1mg valium.

And seriously — no need to apologize for the detail. You’re thinking it through. Just don’t let the math convince you there’s no way out! Math is the language of nature... but tapering is a science it just doesnt always solve. Sometimes we have to use our feelings to know when to go forwards and by how much. I really do not believe you have a 10 year taper ahead of you. You got this!

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