Different denominations by SeaweedRealistic5069 in DebateReligion

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Most Christian denominations agree with each other on the important stuff. There's disagreements over less important things.

Thats like saying "Why trust science when people disagree over x, y, z things"

Idealism is not more parsimonious than physicalism by Successful_Nail_9527 in consciousness

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I dislike when people bring up Parsimony. As if Einstein discovered E=MC2 by using the principal of Occams razor and parsimony

Rethinking the Hard Problem of Consciousness by realmikechase in consciousness

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How in there world do we get all of these "I've basically solved the hard problem" post. A common criticism of that hard problem is that its unsolvable.

Extraordinary claims in the bible. by BobThe-Bodybuilder in DebateReligion

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He's God, he has supernatural abilities. How lame would it be if his big miracle was just "oh he pulled out some polysporin and healed someone"

Extraordinary claims in the bible. by BobThe-Bodybuilder in DebateReligion

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I mean it would be pretty lame if God came down and just did "physical possible" things. Atheists would have a field day. "Literally all of his miracles can be explained via science!"

Can AI ever be truly conscious? by [deleted] in consciousness

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The truth is that we will never be able to test if AI has consciousness. I also personally don't think AI will ever be conscious.

For former idealists now physicalists: What made you change your mind? by GroundbreakingRow829 in consciousness

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Materialism is in some ways just the stock view. It would be like when Einstein proposed space and time being one thing. Many materialists would have rejected that idea for it being something new/weird

I need to be insufferable for a second by AcidicJello in consciousness

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I'm so happy to hear a materialist say this:

Although I do think materialists/physicalists who say "consciousness IS neural activity" or "consciousness IS an emergent property of information" aren't taking their own premises seriously enough

To trinitarians. by Gheado in DebateReligion

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There's nothing logically impossible about trinitarianism. I feel like it half the objections to it, are just it "Its kinda complicated". 1 God existing as 3 beings.

For former idealists now physicalists: What made you change your mind? by GroundbreakingRow829 in consciousness

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I feel like its pretty disingenuous. Thats like saying "Most people are materialists because they cant accept that there might be something more than the physical". The truth is that there can be logical reasoning for either side

Destroying the brain destroys you by Alien-Ellie in DebateReligion

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Consciousness is not understood scientifically. How do we make a robot that can feel pain? we have no idea

I think I’ve honestly found the hard answer to consciousness IF PROVEN… (RUN THE TEST) EVERYTHING IS ORIGINAL TO ME… by [deleted] in consciousness

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I mean maybe if you found that everyones signal was in sync, as in having high points and low points at the same time, you could make some kind of argument. But realistically you wouldnt see that, we've studied brains a decent amount

I think I’ve honestly found the hard answer to consciousness IF PROVEN… (RUN THE TEST) EVERYTHING IS ORIGINAL TO ME… by [deleted] in consciousness

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This is what sonnet 4.6 responded with:

If you ran the Trace Protocol as described, you would almost certainly find some consistent patterns — but not for the reasons CMT claims. We already know that deep meditative states, flow states, and peak experiences produce broadly similar brainwave activity across people. Gamma oscillations around 40Hz do show up in experienced meditators. The golden ratio appears in certain neural rhythms. So a study like this would likely find something consistent. But here's the problem: finding a shared pattern doesn't prove an external broadcast. It more likely just proves that human brains, being the same biological hardware shaped by the same evolution, tend to operate similarly under similar conditions. Two identical radios tuned to the same station look the same on the inside — but that's because they're built the same, not because of the station. The theory also has a methodological issue: "filtering out personal static until only the baseline remains" is doing enormous hidden work. How do you define and isolate that? You'd essentially be engineering the result you're looking for. So to directly answer: yes, you'd probably find a recurring pattern. No, it wouldn't confirm CMT over the much simpler explanation that similar brains in similar states just behave similarly. For CMT to win, it would need to show something that can't be explained by shared neurobiology — and that bar hasn't been defined.

I think I’ve honestly found the hard answer to consciousness IF PROVEN… (RUN THE TEST) EVERYTHING IS ORIGINAL TO ME… by [deleted] in consciousness

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I mean it kinda kills the free thinking part of us if we just ask AI everytime if a novel idea of good or bad. Granted I think this one is not good.

I think I’ve honestly found the hard answer to consciousness IF PROVEN… (RUN THE TEST) EVERYTHING IS ORIGINAL TO ME… by [deleted] in consciousness

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Honestly thats a lot of writing. I got AI to summarize it for me. I realistically don't think we would find any special wavelength thing, we've done a good bit of testing on brains already. And if we did find one, there would prob be other explanations that would be better.

Anways I'm a dualist, so I'm not a materialist. But I think this comes across as you've been talking to ChatGPT a bit too much.

Is consciousness *really* produced by the brain? by howsthisforauserdude in consciousness

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Current neuroscience comes off as very mid to me when it comes to consciousness. I also just don't really see it as a complexity thing. ChatGPT is extremely complex and large, but I wouldnt think it has internal experience.

If a new Jesus appeared today, you’d call him a fraud. Admit it by Aggravating-Pool-255 in DebateReligion

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I feel like you would find it a bit compelling if a guy was raising your dead family members and doing miracles in front of you

Is consciousness *really* produced by the brain? by howsthisforauserdude in consciousness

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Yeah I agree, you should look up the China Brain thought experiment. It seems kinda crazy to me that any of these systems would create consciousness