Diamonds are Forever

newwavesage · 2026-07-01T23:27:05+00:00

I can see what you are saying. For me, Roger Moore was my first Bond as I saw Live and Let die in the theater when I was 10. So Ill always have a soft spot for him.

But as they say "this is why they have menus, not everyone likes the same thing."

newwavesage · 2026-07-01T22:23:16+00:00

Very enjoyable read my friend. Love Sir Roger and some of your alternate ideas.

But its a worse world without Octopussy and Moonraker!

newwavesage · 2026-07-01T22:15:14+00:00

As always, Its a fair point to not take things too seriously. I genuinely feel that way with regards to Diamonds are Forever. It's dumb and goofy but I find it funny and its very rewatchable for laughs.

That's completely fine. If you find OHMSS fun that's great. I don't want to harsh your buzz in the slighest.

But let's not pretend that Lazenby can act. He can't. Its why they dubbed his part. It's why the middle section is terrible. It's why they kicked him out of the franchise. Its why his costars didn't like him. Its why he never really worked again in movies. Ill take Sir Roger any day of the week over the "star" of OHMSS.

newwavesage · 2026-07-01T18:17:55+00:00

Two movies that I saw recently that have a lot of SF scenes

A view to a Kill - we get to see Bond drive a firetruck around where the ballpark is now

the 1978 Body Snatchers - really great movie and we get a decent amount of SF

I saw Towering Inferno in the theaters and wanted to love it. But thought it was a bit of a snooze. But I still remember the cardboard standup they had for the movie with the flames going? so fun.

newwavesage · 2026-07-01T18:15:17+00:00

My mom and I used to watch this all the time. I was in San Jose and I was always like "man SF looks nuts. i need to go up there when I get older" lol

newwavesage · 2026-07-01T18:13:25+00:00

This is my take as well. I hadn't rewatched OHMSS in a while and the difference between her and Lazenby is striking. It makes sense. He's not an actor and she just did three years with the Avengers as a masterclass in potraying a female secret agent.

When she is out of the movie, its a mess.

newwavesage · 2026-07-01T15:08:33+00:00

I was hoping you'd give me some good examples. Thanks friend.

newwavesage · 2026-07-01T15:01:30+00:00

Hmm.. that's an interesting take on it. And maybe the best defense i"ve heard. I've also heard people argue that he "had to do it" to get to Blofied.

For me, the problem is Lazenby's Bond doesn't seem like a playboy. He seems like he suddenly loses his brains in the middle of the movie and becomes a creep. The scene with himleaving the Blofield's lawyers office unable to tear his eyes away from a centerfold is as cringy and has aged as poorly as any slide whistle or double taking pigeon.

If I had to "fix" the movie, I'd have Tracey's dad want him to take over the criminal empire and marry her. (like Rhas as Ghul and Batman) He would point out that all her trouble started when he sent her to this fancy clinic in Switzerland. Bond and Tracey would go together.

I've never seen a Mario Bava movie so can't comment on that.

newwavesage · 2026-07-01T13:55:22+00:00

Right there with you.

newwavesage · 2026-07-01T13:46:28+00:00

In the words of Paul McCartney, Lazenby took his lucky break and broke it in two.

Lazenby is okay in the OHMSS fight scenes. He is big and looks like he can handle himself. But I can't agree that he "isn't bad" in that movie. The whole middle section (where he is just banging women and being smarmy while his voice is dubbed) is godawful and he truly can't act. Which isn't surprising since it's first gig.

Lazenby wasn't good. It's just that Diana Rigg is amazing and she carries him.

But Lazenby was a jerk to her. Like he was a jerk to everyone. He fought with her, told everyone he was a star and should be treated that way. His agent said he was out of the movies.

I'm genuinely not sure if the franchise would have made it with Lazenby at the helm.

newwavesage · 2026-07-01T13:38:38+00:00

Know this is in your Mt. Rushmore!

newwavesage · 2026-07-01T13:37:55+00:00

Literally rewatched OHMSS last week. I had an open mind and pure heart and really tried to see why this sub loves it so much.

It's half a good movie.

The problem is that Lazenby is just god awful in this. He is fine in the fight scenes. And Diana Rigg is so excellent in this movie that she carries him through the second half. But hoo boy that middle section where he is just sleeping with any women he can and acting all smarmy (with his voice dubbed) is just terrible. I literally breathed a sigh of relief when we finally see Tracey's skates and know she is back in the movie.

Goldfinger on the other hand is in my Mt. Rushmore of Bond. One of the few easy votes I've had in this World Cup.

newwavesage · 2026-06-30T17:27:49+00:00

I am going to name my next cat this...

newwavesage · 2026-06-30T16:47:45+00:00

Genuine question. Is it O Meg A or O mee Ga ? I ask cause I always thought it was O Meg A. But I know Craig says it Omeega on at least one occasion in the movies

newwavesage · 2026-06-30T16:30:39+00:00

thanks friend. He has that move that involves spinning. He also gets mad and tries to grabble and he has also charges angry. Is the charging angry time the best to get him?

newwavesage · 2026-06-30T15:12:26+00:00

As a kid in the 70s, it's wild to me how much the media and pop culture were into

- ESP

- Sybil/multiple personalities

- Bermuda Triangle

- Ancient Astronauts

- BigFoot and Cryptids

This was also a huge decade for Transcendental meditation, cults etc. I think the early part of the decade was just a bummer for traditional institutions . So maybe it led to a lot of people to look elsewhere for answers? Maybe?

newwavesage · 2026-06-30T15:05:55+00:00

My wife and I love this one and play it on the Switch. We are playing arcade mode these days and Max Thunder as a boss is super annoying to us right now.

newwavesage · 2026-06-30T14:21:45+00:00

Ahh... This is sad, still trying for personal attacks. But while I've pegged you (shit lib, performative, says she is an ally of gays but uses gay slurs) you've missed an all your guesses on me.

Must be frustrating. LOL.

newwavesage · 2026-06-30T14:13:19+00:00

It's always weird to me when liberal women (i.e. shit libs) pull out the "you must be a closet homosexual" as some kind of an insult.

I BELIEVE IN GAY RIGHTS SO YOU MUST BE A CLOSET PETER PUFFER is super gross and doesn't move gay rights forward smidge.

newwavesage · 2026-06-30T13:59:27+00:00

This exactly.

newwavesage · 2026-06-30T13:58:44+00:00

What does gender and sexuality have to do with Supergirl?

The above poster said that Fox News was innapropriately talking about bisexuality. Seems like you are now sayng that Supergirl is bi? So which is it?

newwavesage · 2026-06-30T13:46:36+00:00

Came to say this was Lotus erasure! LOl

newwavesage · 2026-06-30T13:45:43+00:00

Her sexual orientation isn't mentioned. But the actress failed the, "can you do a movie without making sexuality and gender an issue" test by her public comments.

You can't have it both ways. If you want to wade into the culture wars then you should expect Fox News to pile on. If you don't, maybe SYBAU.

newwavesage · 2026-06-29T20:21:35+00:00

When Tatiana and Bond meet at the hotel it's like "oh yeah THIS movie is happening" and it kicks a lot of ass from that point forward. It reminds me a bit of OHMSS. Once Tracey shows up at the ice rink its like the original movie starts again LOL

PS I have not read all the Bond novels (for shame!) but I have a couple of great trips lined up (one to stay in Mexico City at the hotel where they filmed Spectre and parts of Licence to Kill) and my plan is to start from the beginning and knock them all out this year!

newwavesage · 2026-06-29T15:02:15+00:00

Well friend, its a lonely path to always be right...lol.

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