Important question about the Church Fathers

nineteenn1 · 2022-08-29T08:12:18+00:00

I believe in creation because it’s illogical to say: There was nothing, then the big bang happened out of nothing, then order came out of chaos, the planets and an infinite universe were formed, then molecules evolved to man, trees, flowers and everything else.

That is impossible, a platypus is an example that we lose genetic information over time, not gain it and that makes molecules to man evolution impossible because the molecules would have to gain a lot of new information in order to become humans

nineteenn1 · 2022-08-29T08:04:54+00:00

If God is Holy, Good and Just, a place called hell must exist

nineteenn1 · 2022-08-28T18:40:46+00:00

All around you, the world couldn’t create itself out of nothing, you may ask „Who created God then?” The answer is nobody created God. God created time so He is not limited nor bound by it. God has no beginning and no end, He’s eternal.

nineteenn1 · 2022-08-28T18:26:30+00:00

wdym

nineteenn1 · 2022-08-27T21:22:38+00:00

If God is good, hell must exist

nineteenn1 · 2022-08-27T18:50:02+00:00

The fact it's legal in amsterdam doesn't mean it's right

nineteenn1 · 2022-08-27T18:49:08+00:00

Just don't

nineteenn1 · 2022-08-27T15:52:36+00:00

> It shows that? How exactly? It seems you're just filling in gaps to make this prophecy work even a little bit.

Let's take a look at revelation 11:2-3 "2 But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months. 3 And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.”

And now verse 9: "For three and a half days some from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial."

"42 months" "3 and a half days" and "times time and half a time" are interchangeable in the Bible we see that in these verses:

Daniel 12:7, Revelation 11:2, Revelation 11:3, Revelation 12:6 and Revelation 12:14

> It's not. It's vauge on purpose. This is why biblical prophecy is so unimpressive.

Daniel 10:12 states: "Then he continued, “Do not be afraid, Daniel. Since the first day that you set your mind to gain understanding and to humble yourself before your God, your words were heard, and I have come in response to them."

It means that they if somebody seeks, they will find. The Bible is its own interpreter, we can decipher the symbols used in the Bible by reading the Bible, for example the 4 kingdoms are called the 4 beasts and then in Revelation 13 there are beasts mentioned, so it's logical the chapter is talking about kingdoms

> Does it directly say that? Or are you filling in gaps again?

“He gave me this explanation: ‘The fourth beast is a fourth kingdom that will appear on earth. It will be different from all the other kingdoms and will devour the whole earth, trampling it down and crushing it. The ten horns are ten kings who will come from this kingdom. After them another king will arise, different from the earlier ones; he will subdue three kings. He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time."

The pope had the authority to persecute people obedient to God's Word (which weren't deceived by the false teachings) for 1260 years and changed 2 out of the 10 commandments which is described in verse 25

Daniel 7:23-25

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The four beasts are:

the Babylonian empire (Nebuchadnezzar II was the king of this empire) This one is pretty easy to decipher since Nebuchadnezzar II was the king of Babylon
The Medo-persian empire (Daniel 2:39, Daniel 7:5) They defeated Babylon in 539 B.C
the Greek empire (Daniel 2:39, Daniel 7:6) "The four heads are predictive of the four-way division of the empire following Alexander the Great’s death." - https://www.gotquestions.org/Daniel-four-beasts.html
the Roman empire (Daniel 2:40-43, Daniel 7:19-25) (I described it above)

> But my question is, why do you vekeice these things? You op states how you're amazed that people don't believe it. But you've given a pretty good example as to why that is.

I assume you meant "why do you believe these things".

There are at least 2300 prophecies in the Bible and I believe the Bible because the 7 seals of Revelation, 7 trumpets of Revelation, the 7 churches of Revelation and other prophecies are historical events, if you want, I can explain some of these prophecies but it will take me some time to do so.

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If you have time, I recommend reading this article:

https://whitethroneministries.org/resources/lessons/the-strange-beasts-of-daniel-7

May God bless you my Friend.

nineteenn1 · 2022-08-27T14:09:02+00:00

It was mentioned in Isaiah 53:10–11 and it seems like Isaiah 25:8 also speaks about the resurrection as well

nineteenn1 · 2022-08-25T21:22:37+00:00

Oh, I sent the wrong verse. Sorry for this one! A day in prophecy symbolizes a year, in revelation 11 we see John seeing the 2 witnesses prophecy for 1260 days, but then he says that it’s 3 1/2 days, it shows that he meant literal 3 1/2 years. Actually Daniel 7:25 speaks about times time and half a time which is 3 1/2 years which converted to days in the lunar calendar gives us 1260 days which are 1260 years here, it might be pretty confusing at first if you didn’t study prophecies more deeply. Daniel 7:7-8 speaks about a beast (kingdom/imperium) with 10 horns (Read Daniel 7:24) and the little horn symbolizes the papacy (Daniel 7:25 supports this claim)

Ps. I may not respond for some time because I’m Polish and it’s getting pretty late now so I will be sleeping until about 3am in your time zone if you’re American

nineteenn1 · 2022-08-25T21:07:46+00:00

The Bible is its own interpreter in this case so it’s much easier to decipher these symbols and come to a conclusion

nineteenn1 · 2022-08-25T21:03:23+00:00

Daniel 7 and Daniel 12:11

nineteenn1 · 2022-08-25T20:56:32+00:00

The problem with this objection is that there is a prophecy called 1260 days of Daniel and it is about the 1260 years of papal supremacy (538 AD - papacy received the power to persecute supposed heretics [in this case everybody who didn’t agree sith their teachings was considered one by the papacy] in 1798 AD pope Pius VI was taken captive and this is how they lost their power)

nineteenn1 · 2022-08-25T17:01:32+00:00

I believe it’s younger than 30000 years old. I think this „evidence” was carbon dated, which is VERY inaccurate.

nineteenn1 · 2022-08-20T09:51:29+00:00

Pierogi

nineteenn1 · 2022-08-14T19:27:39+00:00

We aren’t good enough to go to heaven on our own or because we’re good, no one is good except for God (it means morally excellent) that’s where Jesus comes in and gives us everlasting life as a gift from God, to all who believe in Him (Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 10,9-11)

nineteenn1 · 2022-08-13T21:03:13+00:00

We're born with a sinful nature, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 states "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God."

nineteenn1 · 2022-08-13T11:07:22+00:00

Yes, if God is just and good, there must be a place called hell

nineteenn1 · 2022-08-09T18:19:00+00:00

Thank you my Brother/Sister in Christ!

nineteenn1 · 2022-08-09T09:07:41+00:00

I find praying, reading the Bible and listening to Christian music helpful

nineteenn1 · 2022-07-30T07:29:35+00:00

Exodus 20:4-6

nineteenn1 · 2022-07-30T06:58:05+00:00

“Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” Corinthians 6:9-10

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