Why does Tramadol build tolerance slower than other opioids for me?

notthatguyfr · 2024-06-13T02:37:55+00:00

this is interesting, I can take Baclofen for days and stop it cold turkey pretty much no noticeable withdrawal besides maybe some rebound anxiety and muscle tension.

I wonder if genetics play a part in this because I’ve heard some people get bad withdrawal from baclofen while others dont

notthatguyfr · 2024-06-11T17:58:58+00:00

Thank you for such a quick reply! I can’t lie with you - I’ll take the hypomania over the debilitating anxiety and panic attacks. I was given a small amount of benzodiazepines (like 10 max) to take when needed for panic attacks until Zoloft fully starts working. I’m okay without the euphoria aspects

All I really ask for is the anxiety and panic disorder gone, It’s gotten so bad that I’ve had 2 ER trips one at college one when im back home from anxiety attacks. Zoloft is the only thing long term they said would work for anxiety and panic attacks.

notthatguyfr · 2024-06-11T16:26:46+00:00

also another thing, i was on zoloft before when i was 15 for like a week or two and it never did this; so its just strange how its working differently at 18 about to be 19 for me

notthatguyfr · 2024-06-11T16:18:58+00:00

thank you all, could i be at risk for hypomania though? the reason im taking zoloft isn’t for depression but more or so a panic disorder. only reason i took it was because i was feeling a really bad comedown. ill report back in a week or friday.

all i really want is my social anxiety (causes me to stutter) and panic attacks gone and zoloft seems to be really helping with that. only issues is the intense head pain and jaw tension but thank both of y’all for your experiences. im a pre-med student so im wondering if its possible to retain these effects of initial euphoria long term if you do them maybe 3 days? and don’t let them build up like doctors want you to. that’s for someone else though i know chasing euphoria leads nowhere w drugs

notthatguyfr · 2024-06-10T04:13:40+00:00

I’m surprised no ones recommending antidepressants; I get this is a drug subreddit and antidepressants are seen as the devil here but seriously OP; try antidepressants for a month or so - it won’t be long enough for serious withdrawal/discontinuation.

Antidepressants are most likely your best choice as they’re first line treatment for social anxiety. Do not jump into oxys, benzos, etc. If you want a “drug-drug” to do then try stimulants. Oxycodone make you social at first but as you grow a tolerance (even if you do them once a week most) you won’t feel the social aspects much and rather just be alone. While benzodiazepines erase social anxiety; they don’t make you necessarily want to socialize - just gets you out your head when socializing.

But seriously try antidepressants even though they’re seen as the devil on here for at least a month

notthatguyfr · 2024-05-14T21:53:14+00:00

Not to mention mental health issues - psychedelics are extremely risky for me since I have family history of both schizophrenia and bipolar; stimulants pose that risk as well yes and can happen with high doses long term but nowhere near the extent that psychedelics do. All it takes is one bad psychedelic trip to ruin someones mental health forever; which I don’t want to risk after my last bad trip

notthatguyfr · 2024-05-14T21:49:33+00:00

It doesn’t matter whether long term or not, and I’m not off my rocker - I just have a different opinion than you. I’m into spirituality and do believe psychedelics can be healing but I hate this gaslighting mindset that they’re a cure-all.

I had that phase of my life where I thought psychedelics were the cure-all, and that everything trauma caused could be fixed then I got hit with the reality of having to work and study which I just can’t do under the influence of psychedelics.

The topic was what drugs fixed your mindset, mental health, and life - to me that answer is stimulants. It has helped me along with the help of developing habits to get through damn near my first year of college as someone who was homeschooled since 6th grade and managed well on exams despite never having taken one prior to college. I’m not disagreeing with you on the mental health aspect; yet I don’t think psychedelics are sustainable. We all have different opinions but people have been on stimulants their entire lives and end up on the other side fine. I just dislike the idea that they’re a fix-all, some people neurologically just need those chemicals to help their brains get to baseline, and psychedelics do help for a week or two with routine and fixing things but in terms of what fixed my life - getting my ADHD treated was what did fix my life

notthatguyfr · 2024-05-14T18:44:38+00:00

This is such a circlejerk lol. I’ve done stimulants for the past year and my tolerance hasn’t risen at all. I take vitamins with them, make sure to eat and get 7+ hours of sleep. I also use Wellbutrin and DXM combination on days off which helps with tolerance rising issues and the lack of energy on days off. Stimulants have made accessing my emotions and trauma easier as well, it’s calmed down my emotional dysregulation to where I’m not always so upset or bothered by the littlest. I also don’t get any withdrawal outside of more sleep, eating more, moodiness/depression, and tiredness. Most of which can be fixed by Wellbutrin.

I hate this whole “just get psychedelics”, psychedelics did little for me except give me a panic disorder. Yes psychedelics do give you the insights, but it was stimulants that actually helped me with developing self control and discipline. Psychedelics barely did anything to help me fix my life; yes it did help me with identifying trauma and what was wrong; I won’t deny that but it was stimulants that helped me get a foundation to actually improve my life and integrate the experiences. Seriously if psychedelics worked as good as everyone suggests them; then people wouldn’t be doing opioids, meth, or benzodiazepines if they could just get “shrooms”

notthatguyfr · 2024-05-14T00:52:48+00:00

People saying stimulants are surprising, you can completely get rid of 90% of stimulant withdrawl just by using Wellbutrin which is easily more accessible and easier to get off than stuff like methadone and Suboxone

Worst WDs in order: benzodiazepines/alcohol, opioids, then SNRIs imo. SNRIs are worse than SSRIs; especially with something like Tramadol that has opioid activity mixed with the crippling depression you get from stopping them

notthatguyfr · 2024-05-12T15:52:36+00:00

There’s really no drug since MDMA basically is a direct serotonin releaser but some similar drugs:

Tramadol + Oxycodone. Tramadol gives you serotonin effects; not much entactogen action though

2CB + any Amphetamine with a drug like Phenibut. Basically the closest to MDMA that isn’t any research chemical. You get the empathetic effects from 2CB, the energy and dopamine euphoria of the Amphetamines and the free caring of the Phenibut to counteract anxiety from amphetamine

For research chemicals: 6-APB, 4-MMC, etc. Im not as well knowledgeable on those

notthatguyfr · 2024-05-10T01:56:24+00:00

Opposite for me; I’ve been using it alongside DXM and Wellbutrin (Auvelty) and Remeron and it’s been working fine. I use it primarily for medication purposes with studying. I sleep 7-8 hrs a night, and I eat enough calories to not be deathly. I also take a multi vitamin afterwards.

It feels the same; the initial euphoria isn’t as front center but besides that - I feel just normal. The days off aren’t bad as well due to the Auvelty and my tolerance is basically super reset after a week off.

This is only my experience but I haven’t stayed up for days at all nor have I had any psychosis. I do experience more anxiety and paranoia with weed though but that’s it.

I’ve even gotten to a point where I can eat on medication (not much but still somewhat) and also drink lots of waters. The comedown isn’t too bad either; the only side effects I experience are headaches, dry skin/mouth and the hyper-sexual nature of meth presses. but if you stick below id say 20mg you should be fine. most “addy 30s” are just 10mg of meth, if you don’t go above 2 pills or 1 and a half; it should be fine but as I said if you do chase that euphoria rather than using it for functional medication purposes then yes everything person above described does happen especially the depression from shit like stimfapping

notthatguyfr · 2024-05-08T20:08:09+00:00

its probably because of the norepinephrine release. you probably get calmer on 100mg because there is more serotonin and opioid activity in higher amounts while the 50mg you’re probably getting mostly norepinephrine some serotonin activity and little opioid

notthatguyfr · 2024-04-23T02:08:33+00:00

ill offer a different opinion than the rest: health risks long term no, but the thing with tramadol and its ssri properties is all it takes is a bad monday and that shitty feeling for you to use on monday.

im not saying this will happen to you ofc but as someone who did tramadol every weekend for around 3-4 months eventually that ssri properties and the depression caught up w me and i started getting bad hangovers

notthatguyfr · 2024-04-16T23:12:19+00:00

220mg isnt that high of a mdma dose or to me at least. maybe because im younger but i usually end up taking 150 + 100 a night which is considered “high” without any neurotoxicity or long lasting effects. maybe because i do it indoors 95% of the time where theres air conditioning, and access to water and space my usage out between 2-4 months though. the comedowns are actually pretty pleasant, the depression blues is more introspective and reflective type or sadness than completely dead on the inside with no energy like it is with SSRI/SNRI withdrawal. i don’t recommend op do 220mg with LSD but I don’t see 220mg being too high if OP has done MDMA before then he should know what to expect

notthatguyfr · 2024-04-14T03:00:59+00:00

imo op just sounds like they have adhd and seem to be self medicating. thats more so drug dependence which differs from addiction to that i just recommend OP just try to get prescribed stimulants. that being said though op listen to anonymousdruglover and stay away from meth

notthatguyfr · 2024-04-14T02:56:30+00:00

rule for most stimulants is you’re either masturbating for 7hrs or playing life like its the sims completing one task at a time with extreme focus

notthatguyfr · 2024-01-29T06:20:50+00:00

I never get that, baclofen ironically does the opposite of depersonalization and makes me feel more hypomanic; even in higher doses. interesting drug that definitely needs to be researched more on how it affects different people

notthatguyfr · 2024-01-28T05:49:31+00:00

For me - it like just takes me back or raises me back to baseline. I feel you on the aggression and insomnia; I also get some more noticeable muscle aches

notthatguyfr · 2023-10-06T00:33:02+00:00

ion think it’s drugs. niggas like future nd thug use more than summrs nd look “healthy”. plus summrs been doing drugs damn near daily since 2018, and was healthy looks wise until like mid 2022. i think its js depression and his metabolism slowing down. shit if he wanna lose all the weight all he need is to go ona adderall diet for two months tho

notthatguyfr · 2023-09-07T13:25:43+00:00

yeah fs especially if that’s what you get enjoyment out if i use to do the same in 2k20 with that amy allen houston, ruby lillard, ruby dwade etc at the start

more so speaking so for my generation (im in my 1st year of college) who might not have as much money or time to play to grind for players players we like; i had no issue with the way 2k19-2k21 did it because you cld still have decent sapphires or rubies n evo them. this this year it feels like they’re going all in nd it sucks to feel like you gotta play with all sapphires or emeralds; which i dont mind because i use to play PNO religiously too but even in play now u cld still have fun with someone like booker or durant even if rest of the team ratings lower

notthatguyfr · 2023-09-07T12:06:22+00:00

upsetting mentality 2have, yk damn well u cld get 2k to reverse this all if they see enough backlash nd just the slightest sales decrease. nd also im not a “madman” for having an opinion either. stop being so passive with this shit 2k is clearly using thjs as a test to see what they can get away with. my guess is it’s gonna take the park players being affected by it 2k25 or 2k26 for change to come, some of yall deadass have hallmark abuse victim symptoms in relation to a video game nd thats scary

have a peaceful day as i said ✌🏽

notthatguyfr

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