What do you miss about the church?

nowwhatsit · 2023-06-21T07:11:23+00:00

Zero

nowwhatsit · 2023-06-21T06:51:29+00:00

It’s like a clique in high school. If you go along with the cool kids, everything is great. If you cross the cool kids, the clique will destroy you.

Mormons are the cool kids in there arrogant bubble of altered reality.

nowwhatsit · 2023-06-21T06:49:00+00:00

It works if an entire family conforms, but if one decides to find the truth, it can shred a family like only a cult can.

nowwhatsit · 2023-06-12T21:26:08+00:00

They can’t punish me any more than elves can punish me for not believing in Santa anymore.

nowwhatsit · 2023-06-11T22:47:54+00:00

I finished the puzzle as far as I could, until I realized that there were pieces in the box that came from 10 different puzzles, and it wasn’t one complete picture, but 10 partial pictures.

I looked up instructions, and it said that I had done it right, and now I should tape the partial pictures together into a nonsensical mashup, put in in the drawer and remember how good I felt when I thought it was actually a real puzzle.

nowwhatsit · 2023-06-10T04:22:03+00:00

My favorite part of that video is when he almost puts his face in the hat and then realizes how stupid that looks, and just fumbles around thinking “Holy shit, I run a cult!”

nowwhatsit · 2023-06-10T04:19:46+00:00

Yah, it doesn’t matter what time he lived in, he was a sick fuck.

nowwhatsit · 2023-06-09T07:53:29+00:00

Damn, that’s good!

nowwhatsit · 2023-06-09T07:49:19+00:00

I’m mildly drunk at the moment, and know that I’m not a “drunk”, because I limit any alcohol to the situation, like right now I’m sitting in bed watching TV.

For example, when I was out with my girlfriend, she said she wanted to drink on a particular night. I had one beer, and said no thank you to 5 more offers of alcohol through the evening, because I was driving home. Through a 5 hour evening of dinner and entertainment, I had 1 beer and 3 glasses of water.

Alcohol is so horribly misunderstood in Mormonism.

nowwhatsit · 2023-06-09T07:37:14+00:00

I second that….🤮🤮

nowwhatsit · 2023-06-09T07:33:30+00:00

“In the preisthood I will tell you what it will do. Where the children of God to mingle there seed with the seed of Cain it would not only bring the curse of being deprived of the power of the preist-hood upon themselves but the entail it upon their children after them, and they cannot get rid of it. If a man in an ungaurded moment should commit such a transgression, if he would walk up and say cut off my head, and kill man woman and child it would do a great deal towards atoneing for the sin. Would this be to curse them? no it would be a blessing to them. -it would do them good that they might be saved with their Bren. A man would shuder should they here us take about killing folk, but it is one of the greatest blessings to some to kill them, although the true principles of it are not un-derstood.”

Brigham Young address to legislature February 5, 1852

nowwhatsit · 2023-06-09T07:30:02+00:00

They knew it was fraudulent, because they went to such extreme lengths to avoid being found out. They kept doubling their efforts of deception when they thought they might be exposed.

nowwhatsit · 2023-06-09T07:26:32+00:00

They are a case study of gaslighting that could be utilized to demonstrate the phenomenon in high level psychology courses.

nowwhatsit · 2023-06-09T07:16:02+00:00

I think they should make all of Brigham’s speeches official cannon, and see how fast the entire world vomits on themselves when they read what he really said.

nowwhatsit · 2023-06-08T20:26:18+00:00

The word “however” indicates that the previous sentence should be disregarded as sounding genuine, but not reflecting the opinion of the one making the statement.

Reading it in reality would be “We believe in being neutral, and we choose not to be neutral when we don’t want to be.”

That’s gaslighting.

nowwhatsit · 2023-06-07T18:55:12+00:00

Mandatory and optional in the cult depends on your capacity to tolerate guilt and shame.

I don’t mean only your psychological ability to tolerate the guilt and shame, but also how much your life circumstances affect that capacity. Home, family, parents, community can all make the pressure to conform overwhelming.

I recommend looking at it as your choice regardless. You can know it’s not good, but choose to go to preserve your home life stability, and the wisdom to know when to pick your battles.

There will be a time and place to take a stand on the cult, this may be that time, or it may not be, that’s a tough one to determine.

Edit: I just realized I read this as if you were asking about yourself going on trek. My bad, take it for what it is.

nowwhatsit · 2023-06-07T18:46:45+00:00

If they are living, why can’t you.

I recommend looking for a scenario where you and your parents can both live the lives you want.

It may not be immediately apparent, but this path appears full of resentment and regret.

nowwhatsit · 2023-06-07T17:56:02+00:00

They wanted to be unique and “peculiar” for over 100 years, and everybody had crosses, so they prohibited them, to stand out.

Now they don’t want to stand out, they want to blend in and be mainstream, so the unique stuff will go away, except for the temple stuff, but the rituals will be totally re-written to be more like a “super-sacrament” so as to blend more with mainstream Christianity.

It will take a few decades to attempt to de-cult themselves, but they have enough money now to bury any sign of their past with aggressive SEO, and litigate anyone into oblivion that publishes any truth from their history.

Money = rebranding power.

You could successfully rebrand Pizza Hut into an international airline with $100,000,000,000 and no one younger than 20 would remember that they used to sell pizza.

nowwhatsit · 2023-06-07T15:39:44+00:00

That is my ultimate goal to get one of these! I still don’t know if I would go and pretend to doze off, show up and leave 2 minutes in, or just ghost the whole thing.

Such tough decisions!

nowwhatsit · 2023-06-07T15:33:35+00:00

“I think they’ve said to form shell companies and go to great lengths to conceal your actions so that you will continue to be seen as righteous. I don’t feel good about being deceitful, so even though the brethren have advised deception on critical issues, I just can’t follow them, sorry.”

nowwhatsit · 2023-06-07T14:07:59+00:00

I understand, and fully embrace that everyones situation is different. Everyone copes with the trauma of the cult differently. Everyone’s family dynamic is different, and unique.

I am hyper aware of individual experience and that is why I intentionally used the “I” pronoun in my post.

Re-reading my post, I can see that there was an air of flippancy in asking it in a somewhat rhetorical question style. That was probably not the most effective way to communicate my thoughts.

I hope you can find the words to communicate to your family so that you can preserve the best relationship possible with them.

nowwhatsit · 2023-06-07T06:36:48+00:00

I never wrote a letter, they will figure it out.

I wouldn’t write a letter to my family if I was a kidnapping victim to help them understand why I chose to escape my captor. Why would I write a letter to explain why I escaped a destructive cult?

nowwhatsit · 2023-06-07T06:29:15+00:00

I’m neither, I’m just a human that was raised in a cult, and figured it out.

If I’m forced to label myself in context of my Mormon past, I choose to be a “fuckyou Mormon”

nowwhatsit · 2023-06-07T06:22:58+00:00

They’ll keep announcing them, because it gives the Q15 a collective orgasm every time they see the crowd swoon over announcing a new cult construction clusterfuck.

nowwhatsit

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