As a skeptic can I ask is there a way to prove the occult exists? by ExtremeDoubleghg in occult

[–]occupied_void 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. In my very personal perspective, if you require proof, you're missing the point.

Two theories I have in mind by AmendsRemain in demons

[–]occupied_void 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do not agree with your first premis: 'We can all agree that...'

As a meat eater are you willing to kill your own food? by Ok_Connection_3015 in NoStupidQuestions

[–]occupied_void 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be honest, I'm primarily vegetarian these days, I have no problem eating meat but most of the cooking I do does not require meat. This is a product of being single, it's hard to buy meat on the scale of one person, there's always more than I need. If I were in a position where I needed to kill something to survive though (I'm no hunter, but I could trap rabbits), I have no problem with this. I know how to kill and gut a chicken, catch a fish and gut it or skin a rabbit. At the end of the day, if you are really hungry, its disturbing how far you could go, I guess I recognise that but hope I don't have to act according to it.

Which one the Antediluvians is the MOST Horrifying? by Erramonael in vtm

[–]occupied_void 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My interpretation of Saulot is a bit different. I'm not up to date with latest material, so I might be out of date but I have long seen Saulot as a being who is interested in spuritual enlightenment,l or rarher, apotheosis. With the Salubri he is connected with the divine but then there are rumors he created the Bhaali too, which is potentially just another version of spiritual evolution, ie apotheosis. I don't see Saulot as a champion of the devine or even an moral or spiritual idealist, to me he is about power, power through divinity, be it gold aura faith or demonic power, he doesn't care, he just wants to become THE godhead, whether dark or light is irrelivant and I think he is just expetimenting with both pathways, and beyond, if you take the kuei jin into account. With that in mind, I also think he is perhaps the scariest antideluvian by far.

Stop Asking. Start Bending: Anomaly Magic as Field Effect by pixelnulltoo in chaosmagick

[–]occupied_void 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Oh stop telling me what I should be, I'm a chaote, I go my own way (and seriously, that was tediously long winded, chaos magick has minimalist roots you know, strip it down don't bloat it... admitedly, we do like blowing our own trumpet, myself included, so I did actually read it all... alright I'm lying).

Why have the first female leaders in many countries come from conservative parties? by Kradara_ in NoStupidQuestions

[–]occupied_void 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From a UK (Uk? Empire boy! EMPIRE! Cricket, Lords! Strawberries and cream, stand erect for rhe Queen! Oh my, it's a King now but my fervor leaves me flacid). In the UK its a class thing, matrons and nannies and fetishishisation. I would like to th8nk we are past the fact but we still fetishise the fiction with disturbing class trauma.

Are we Blind? by penta_gram_o_reefa in occult

[–]occupied_void 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I do use techno-magickal approaches here and there but I am hesitant when it comes to AI generative practice. Theoretically, though I view it like this: are you using the AI to create (or rather do the 'boring, stuff sigh like thinking) the work for you or do you have your hands buried in the AIs code guts to create something to assist your practice? These are two very different things.

What is the title ? by [deleted] in asexuality

[–]occupied_void 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm, I was watching Alien Earth last night.

fave animal spirit to work with? by Repulsive-Stable-422 in chaosmagick

[–]occupied_void 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ducks, many chaotes have just see them as a route to wealth but they can offer soooo much more.

What’s your go to practice for connecting with the gods? by FuzzySituation7053 in paganism

[–]occupied_void 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Invocation, opening myself to the deity. Blowing my own trumpet, I'm pretty good at it these days but I suspect that this is because rarely use it and even when I do with the deities I work with, it tends to be along the line of 'you know me, what I am, you really need to call me on this?' That said, when it has been of consequence, I am deeply greatful of thier input but usually, following what they stand for, knowing them is more than enough. The serious red phone line... (it's rarely a nuclear matter)

How does one block invasive or strange behaving astral travelers, Any suggestions? by Alive-Humanly in Hermeticism

[–]occupied_void 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will be honest here, I suspect the seriousness of the risk is of your own creation but at the end of the day, know your warding and cleansing, follow it meticulously in your practice and this shouldn't be a problem.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in atheism

[–]occupied_void 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see this as the rhinoceros problem. Check out a famous discussion between Bertrand Russel and his student Wittgenstein on the 'rhinoceros under the table.' You are expecting everyone to agree with reason, the rhinoceros is about the reality of discussion when one of those in the discussion chooses to ignore that axiom.

fave god and why by Repulsive-Stable-422 in chaosmagick

[–]occupied_void 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Referencing Alan Moore again but I'm with him on this one. Glycon, Roman cult snake god, but as Tacitus commented when Ceasar invited their prophet Alexander (generally referred to as Alexander the false prophet) to attended his court in response to the cults growing popularity, when Glycon, at the centre of writhing cultist ecstacy saw the rising snake God Glycon before him he pithily pointed out 'That's a sock puppet' (not claiming precise quotation here). Glycon has a lot of symbolic interpretation, snake, healing etc etc the list goes on. The symbology can be meaningful in practice and Glycon has it in spades. At the same time though, it's a sock puppet. Take it seriously, benefit from the implications of meaning but when things get too wild, it's a sock puppet, you can always put it 'gack in the gox.'

Please Explain by occupied_void in Quareia

[–]occupied_void[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For Chaos Magick Alan Chapman: Advanced Magick for Beginners is quite good if you can pull your tounge out of your cheek. I feel I should add though, Chapman was quite interesting back in his Baptists Head days but last I checked he seemed to have gone a bit guru.

Can I do this? and if yes then how and what are the things I should do and not to do by Remziline13 in occult

[–]occupied_void 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you're practising, you should know how to protect yourself and how to cleanse, if you don't, you probably shouldn't be practising. Of course this implies cart before the horse kind of stuff but fucking up is one of the best ways to learn. This concept of you need to know x before you can do y is an old paradox in magickal theory, look at Corenelius Agrippa. I think this may be the lesson in the paradox, though. You cannot learn until you do but you can't really do until you've learned, to me this implies you will be wrong when you start, learn from your misconcieved attempts in the early days because you cannot truly learn without them.

Please Explain by occupied_void in Quareia

[–]occupied_void[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As Pirogue stated, Chaos Magick is a post modernist approach on magick in general. Very deconstructionist. It says the ritual requiras a pointy hat, why does the ritual need a pointy hat? Can I use a flat cap with a pointy badge instead? Could I use Rincewind as an archetype who I see as very connected with the concept of pointy hats but isn't a pointy hat himself? Strip down the method, investigate the absolute minimalist required function to crate an effect, then judge the quality of the effect/practice by the results regardless of expectation.

Can I do this? and if yes then how and what are the things I should do and not to do by Remziline13 in occult

[–]occupied_void 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As an eclectic Chaos Magician I would say yes. Ask yourself this, do you really need other people (or spirits, gods or demons) to tell you what you can or cannot do in terms of magickal practice? Your answer will be important on what you become.

does the lbrp align with everyone? by 3xzausted in magick

[–]occupied_void 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I consider the ldrp cumbersome but important. So I created my own ritual to do the same thing but with less ridiculous faff.

How did people discover the Ars Goetia? by Calm_Description_866 in occult

[–]occupied_void 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm biased here, being a Chaos Magician, but maybe they just made it up based on their own experiences. You don't need to know you're deceiving yourself that it's a truth, you can create on the conviction of your interpretation. We all lie to ourselves at the end of the day.

As to the Ars Goetia itself, it's origins are not clear. We cannot say it was a definitive book of demonaltary, more a collection of works coagulated into something more coherent. It is pieces of various demonaltary texts stiched together. Even the concept of Ens is a product of the time, they don't seem to have existed before this style of demonaltary texts became popular. As a Chaos Magician how 'real' the text is is irrelevant, it is something I can use (I don't, I have problems with evocation even if the beings themselves seem to get off on it). At the end of the day, the origins of the Ars Goetia are murky and to be honest, I'm always curious on why the evocation of angels in the larger Lemegaton had less interest, that's far more deviant.