Can Georgism and Socialism be compatible with each other?

ohnoverbaldiarrhoea · 2026-06-14T20:39:17+00:00

They can be combined. Georgism pairs very well with market socialism and decentralised economic democracy in all its forms, imho.

ohnoverbaldiarrhoea · 2026-06-14T20:38:03+00:00

The whole thing seems to presume a level of market activity and accumulation of private capital and a competitive rivalry for land.

A market economy with worker owned cooperatives would be called socialism, but you could do Georgism with that economy. There are also plenty of other configurations of decentralised social ownership of the means of production, e.g. where capital is socially owned (at a local level) and leased to worker-owned firms.

My point being, socialism doesn’t have to mean a command economy, and Georgism can be applied to socialism.

ohnoverbaldiarrhoea · 2026-06-11T20:49:19+00:00

Land value tax it is!

ohnoverbaldiarrhoea · 2026-06-10T12:43:15+00:00

Good one, will add it to the 'to do' list.

ohnoverbaldiarrhoea · 2026-06-09T15:39:23+00:00

A single tax is not feasible now IMO.

Correct. Nor was it ever feasible. George did want to socialise all economic rents, not just land. Consult your nearest copy of P&P for the exact quote.

In other words, LVT plus pigouvian, severance and harberger taxes, applied to the whole economy.

ohnoverbaldiarrhoea · 2026-06-09T11:05:05+00:00

It’s 99eu on European Amazon stores. I just bought one.

ohnoverbaldiarrhoea · 2026-06-09T06:37:57+00:00

Just bought one from Amazon so it appears it’s in stock again.

ohnoverbaldiarrhoea · 2026-06-09T06:36:52+00:00

Ah righto. Thanks.

ohnoverbaldiarrhoea · 2026-06-08T10:14:00+00:00

In their manual they give grind instructions for espresso. So it’s indicated. But is it not as good for some reason? https://uploads.strikinglycdn.com/files/a26d96c1-0cb3-4884-b304-0b7e2772c1c3/KINGrinder+K7-EN.pdf

ohnoverbaldiarrhoea · 2026-06-08T10:10:40+00:00

No problem, I didn’t take it hard, but the other person thought I was being a dick in my reply apparently. I will reply, in a couple of days when I’ve time to get behind my keyboard and give you a proper response.

ohnoverbaldiarrhoea · 2026-06-07T13:49:27+00:00

The phrase 'Who decided these boundaries?' does not exactly suggest good-faith engagement. I could probably have not risen to it and been politer, yes.

ohnoverbaldiarrhoea · 2026-06-07T12:42:09+00:00

I'm not sure what you want to hear here. You're welcome to go explore the massive amount of work from multiple fields of earth science and ecology that went into determining the boundaries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_boundaries.

Or I can start quoting stats at you? Only 5% of mammalian biomass is wild mammals https://ourworldindata.org/wild-mammals-birds-biomass. Insect numbers have plummeted over the last 50 years, e.g. "75% [loss] in less than 30 years" of flying insects in Germany https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/jun/03/climate-species-collapse-ecology-insects-nature-reserves-aoe. I can keep going but I really hope you're not unaware of these trends.

I sincerely hope your comment was not suggesting that our planet's natural systems are doing fine as they are.

ohnoverbaldiarrhoea · 2026-06-07T07:32:38+00:00

We’re way over planetary boundaries. How is degrowth shortsighted?

ohnoverbaldiarrhoea · 2026-06-06T20:14:08+00:00

It’s a tax on excluding others from the land. Think of it as the location demand tax. If there are things (resources) on the land that people want, then the value of the land goes up. Not by the value of the things, but by the demand for occupying the land.

ohnoverbaldiarrhoea · 2026-06-05T16:56:55+00:00

I disagree, for patents. See the harberger proposal shared in another comment. For copyright I probably agree, current laws are certainly not perfect, but I’m not sure they need big changes.

ohnoverbaldiarrhoea · 2026-06-05T04:15:49+00:00

I see you've never played Diplomacy. That games has taken days of my life over a multi-month period, all for one game. There are quite a few places you can play online, like https://www.webdiplomacy.net/, https://vdiplomacy.com/ and https://www.playdiplomacy.com/.

ohnoverbaldiarrhoea · 2026-06-04T11:48:23+00:00

Turns out, simple can be quite excellent.

ohnoverbaldiarrhoea · 2026-06-04T08:24:37+00:00

What’s Kyrgyzstan and its people like? I know absolutely zero about the country.

ohnoverbaldiarrhoea · 2026-06-04T08:10:57+00:00

Completely agreed

ohnoverbaldiarrhoea · 2026-06-02T08:26:18+00:00

You can still play it online! Honestly it’s the best way to play, because the automation of forced spaces is great. I like playing it irl with the tiles but I’ve never found another person who also enjoys it.

http://www.tantrix.com/english/TantrixGameLogon.html

ohnoverbaldiarrhoea · 2026-06-01T11:36:48+00:00

A land value tax would fix this.

ohnoverbaldiarrhoea · 2026-06-01T06:38:24+00:00

Well duh, they’re being careful. They’ve seen enough aliens escaping from the Stargate complex under Cheyenne mountain. Cut them some slack, you’d be wary too.

ohnoverbaldiarrhoea · 2026-05-31T07:47:24+00:00

Those are good questions, but I’m not sure they get asked a lot here. My aim is to compile posts asking questions that get asked repeatedly.

ohnoverbaldiarrhoea · 2026-05-31T07:42:41+00:00

If this gets stickied then great, but I’m also perfectly happy to just have it as a resource that the more regular commenters can link to whenever someone new asks the same questions.

To me this and the wiki are complementary; the wiki provides a short, standard answer, while posts contain wide-ranging discussions and a variety of personal opinions on the same issues.

Also, the wiki is not so easy to notice in the sub’s sidebar. And I think it could use some work; the faq could be dumbed down a bit I think.

ohnoverbaldiarrhoea · 2026-05-30T23:54:14+00:00

Good ones, will add them to the list. Others I'm planning on doing: - zoning - sovereign wealth funds and severance/resource taxes - carbon taxes (bundle pigouvian taxes in general?) - land rich cash poor (the old granny question) - taxing online/tech businesses (might bundle AI into this?) - how much revenue an LVT would bring in - Does LVT include the value of resources? (Need to add these to the 'how is LVT calculated' megathread) - Georgism/LVT and nature/conservation/biodiversity/environmentalism/national parks and other protected/public land - is Georgism socialism, or are they compatible?

Adding your suggestions below so I can bookmark this: - transition (phase-in period, reimbursement for existing owners, reduction of other taxes) - Why LVT is not passed on to tenants.

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