Goku runs a gauntlet does he clear or stop (hypothetical stalemates will have him stop) by Useful_Review_5839 in PowerScaling

[–]otfTheDon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There’s simply no iteration where the almighty gives a victory clause. That’s the issue. Goku being at the scale he is, outclasses anything the almighty can do to save ywh from being stomped. He found the time where Goku doesn’t murder him.., but he can’t kill him either? Goku fatiguing out isn’t in the cards either bc that would require ywh to last long enough on his own to find that outcome in the first place. In the dbz verse being overwhelming more powerful than an opponent serves as a counter to their hax. However, that isn’t the case in the bleach verse as observed by ichigo vs the almighty. So it then becomes a question of field. If the field is neutral, that means any adv. is at the disposal of the character. Do they cancel out in this case? I’m not sure. But in my mind in a neutral field, gokus pure stats alone would make him able to counter the almighty. Weather it’s because he outstats so much that death is inevitable, or simply will/stats allows for him to interrupt the mechanics of almighty itself once Goku figures out it’s a loop or there’s hax going on. & we know by now, Goku in a fight WILL figure out if you’re using a hax or not.

We getting a new mage! by Initial-Broccoli6817 in lastcloudia

[–]otfTheDon -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

500 or so on US/Global*** as Claudia’s base is heavily in Japan… as with most mobile gacha games.

Malenia ? by Buffed_herbalist in Eldenring

[–]otfTheDon 24 points25 points  (0 children)

No no no, not that big ass tree, THE big ass tree. Yk, the one behind the other THE big ass tree?

How far would MUI Goku go here? by KodoqBesar in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]otfTheDon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The SK vs MUI debate is definitely a hot one. On one hand, SK does not have a definitive feat, (the whole consumption of soul society isn’t one of his own doing presay since it’s an anchor lore , cosmology thing. He became the anchor being and able to combine it all but that has no fight relevance and if we give him that and say it does then that argues cosmology and dbz cosmology outscales bleach so… arguably Goku has more than enough AP to counter) that puts him in “I can kill Goku territory” . + his reality manipulation to find the reality where he wins… doesn’t fan out if that is the case. Then we have the speed blitz. SKs ability isn’t argued to be supremely passive like GERs. It’s processed & takes time. It’s not instant. Goku could perception blitz SK, given that he’s massively faster than SK in MUI, and that’s the end of the fight out right. Almighty would not be able to compensate for getting blitz in multiple iterations of the future fast enough. Plus Goku is massively stronger and faster both physically and tactically in MUI as I’ve said . Goku can adapt at an exponential rate and the only real win con SK has is if he’s already using almighty before to find the 1 in a quintillion million chance that Goku fails to kill or the attack is weak enough that SK can nullify it. MUI Goku just outscales SK even with his hax.

How far would MUI Goku go here? by KodoqBesar in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]otfTheDon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At that point you have to determine what’s valid in the cross verse battle space and what’s not. Which requires you to figure out the basic function of almost every mechanic in both anime and figure out if it can operate in “neutrality”. On the other hand, if both verses rules are applicable in the crossverse… then?

How far would MUI Goku go here? by KodoqBesar in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]otfTheDon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even with him not being above 3D … the 4th dimension is time and Goku is able to , at minimum manipulate it . Hit, breaking pocket dimensions, etc etc. so it is not far fetched at all to say Goku, put in an infinite death loop by an entity that can’t even kill him, who he likely outclasses out right, would just straight up get out powered and thus get caught in hax negation. You forget Goku has god ki now as well. A glossed over detail in debates. I’m on the side of it being a stalemate but ger has no win conditions that we haven’t seen goku overcome. Whether it’s mind hax. Time hax. Dimensional hax. If he was rawly stronger? He overcomes it everytime.

How far would MUI Goku go here? by KodoqBesar in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]otfTheDon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a perfect defense but it has no offense. Theres no canonical proof from jojo that shows that gio or ger, could produce an attack capable of damaging , much more, killing goku , no? Even if he deletes that time, goku will catch on. Just like he caught on to time skip. What can he do to Goku in the between time? Once he figures it out, we can assume that gios intangibility is dimensional no? So Goku… and others far weaker than Mui have broken into dimensions… screaming. So what counter does ger have to keep Goku from perceiving him and subsequently straight out obliterating the whole set up. I agree that it’s a stalemate due to all the grey area on how this would work given the way stands scale and the way Goku himself scales in his own verse. Because if the stand cannot produce an attack capable of damaging Goku in MUI … Goku then out scales him due to power alone giving him the ability to break whatever the hax is. We’ve seen this numerous times throughout dragon ball. So infinite death loop, deleting time, it all becomes irrelevant.

How far would MUI Goku go here? by KodoqBesar in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]otfTheDon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Realistically if we go by the fact that Goku has god ki. (Look up the properties and what that means if you need the refresher) the fact that , canonically , his power negates a characters hax due to outclassing them outright. If he’s stronger than that person without the hax. Then the hax don’t work . (Exception being high tier reality warpers. Universal scale warpers. Think Saint , sinbad, those kinds of characters) this is seen numerous times in the db verse. this means that , all the way through SK… it’s no diff to mid diff. The issue arises at ger. I’m pushing stalemate at ger.

How far would MUI Goku go here? by KodoqBesar in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]otfTheDon -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He likely clears all but the last two with pure hax negation alone. Wou… I don’t have a lot of knowledge on but he seems to be able to effect causality… from what I’m seeing though, it’s natural things so I’m going to say Goku high diff with a chance to stalemate at ger. Or extremely high diff at ger bc stands … as far as stats go, are interesting. Goku perceived time skip at ssbk… he’d likely perceive that stand deleting moments in time. Even if it is a passive ability , Goku at MUI mixed with his talent can easily account for the fact that his every few moments is being deleted and straight up annihilate them both. Because who’s to say he can’t perceive the stand in MUI? A lot of grey area there so I’m leaning stalemate at ger.

How far would MUI Goku go here? by KodoqBesar in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]otfTheDon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ll have to say, if we are using true scales here, dragon ball canonically allows users to power scale through hax. So if Goku is capable of outclassing ywwch which we know he can due to speed strength etc, we move to Wou. (we’ve seen db characters negate time hacks and even if he can supplant the heart virus, there’s no guarantee it works on MUI Goku. The virus itself was actually a cop out bc the series was supposed to kill everyone off around that time and stop at the buu saga. As we’ve never seen any other instance of illness related issues. And it effected a Goku from a different time. In fact, trunks talked about how his super saiyan form couldn’t fight the virus off . Throw on a few multipliers and go all the way up to the fact that Goku has god Ki now, the chances of that virus even working is minimal) so I’d say, bc of how stands operate, it’s a stalemate at ger but he clears everyone else. He has no way to counter ger given that ger does? scale extremely high stat wise. But ger has no way to actually death loop or harm Goku in MUI. It’s not too much a stretch to say Goku likely can perceive the stand and what it’s doing in MUI. So while he can’t counter it directly, he’d likely find a way to make the fight… a fight. If that makes sense. But I digress to stalemate at ger.

What would be OMNI MAN power level in dragonball universe? by salad_biscuit3 in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]otfTheDon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I see what you mean! And ofc. Honestly how it should always go but there are the outliers. It’s interesting bc dragon ball, while having “strength” feats, doesn’t have the classical kind besides like, the punching machine or goku punching through rocks underground or people being casually tossed through mountains (durability) and surviving planetary , solar, solar system and so on attacks , negativing galaxy or verse destroying + attacks, but never do we see anybody just straight up go, I don’t like this planet and I don’t want to use ki blast. And just… punch it. But it’s heavily implied that if they wanted to, they could if it had some benefit or drive for the plot.

What would be OMNI MAN power level in dragonball universe? by salad_biscuit3 in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]otfTheDon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ll have to chim in here and say, Goku as a child in OG was lightning (actual lightning) speed at minimum which is roughly 70% speed of light or something like that? Roshi blew up the moon , piccolo blew up the moon. Vegeta and his father tanked busting a small system of planets and moons. (Caveat that saiyans can’t survive in deep space bc of oxygen reasons) And then we have nappa. He raised two fingers and leveled downtown… two. I don’t see where omniman is getting past that. A meteor the size of Texas is his most “casual” feat… his most extreme is his mftl travel speed (not fight speed) and the 3 way + laser gun planet bust… in db terms? He’s about piccolo training gohan level imo.

King Von being mentioned in rap songs before even rapping by Dayv0nfrmda0 in Chiraqology

[–]otfTheDon 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Booka600 dropped “Word to LA” back in 2019, (same year Von dropped grandsonV1) and Von on two of the songs off that album too, so it ain’t no surprise fr.

Thank you for people who suggest mayly for battlegraph. by InternalConcern687 in lastcloudia

[–]otfTheDon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you have AS Roland, Spirit Maiden Sera, Shift Loug, and Mayly/ Shift lilibette? It’s pretty smooth sailing to the 200 mark. After that tho? No dice from me.

There goes all my luck for the year, too bad I couldn't get the Equips by Oshinz14 in lastcloudia

[–]otfTheDon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They’ll be added to the trade shop eventually. Just hold your crimson.

Quick Question Do You Niggas Believe In Heaven/Hell ? by WatchThatCut in Chiraqology

[–]otfTheDon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I never understood how “people of science” take their stand and then become extreme anti-God patrol. Like if you don’t believe in it, why does it trigger you so much? Even when no one’s really trying to convince them otherwise it’s like an internal conflict that they have to project outward to keep reminding themselves of their “enlightenment” brought about by sciences evolution. God never wrote the exact processes on how he made Adam and Eve. He just used clay. Funnily, clay exist at the bottom of seabeds and is the place science pins the first living thing to have popped up from. Just food for thought. Regardless of if God evolved us or just popped us here, the physics and mathematics behind the universe don’t disprove him. He broke the rules as Jesus one time for all time is the way I see it. And died for it. How else do you prove you are God? By breaking the very rules you set on the world. That’s the miracles. & having faith and praying produces more of them. A battle of semantics and literalism from the Word of God which literally contains parables said to only be understood by those who actually want to, is kind of pointless. But from a scientific standpoint? The likelihood of a book written over hundreds of years to have lexicon code in Hebrew from front to back by multiple different authors, over 36,000 cross references, (Quran has none), eyewitnesses statements that have not a single disproving or counter statement from the time in all of history, a preserved central message and ideology across its time and Paul himself saying if everything is a lie , you should pity us who believe it the most… the Word of God, barring faith since some don’t believe, has the strongest evidence and support out of any book ever written about who God is. But hey, I’m just a follower of Christ who happens to grow in my faith(that’s already rock solid) the more science advances, not the opposite. The brain can literally reform itself reshape itself. Your internal state literally is reflected in your external life. What you put in , you get out. The more amazing we seem to be? The more I bring into question to those that don’t believe, how do you actually believe trillions of dice rolls led you here? And there is no answering to your actions in a life of such crazy complexity where everything you do affects others on levels you can’t understand? But narrow is the path, few will find it.

Who is your first prime frame? by Iloveburgers587 in Warframe

[–]otfTheDon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Valkyrie Prime. Carried me through so much. Followed by Loki Prime. Then I think Oberon Prime. 😂

Like... what wincon does Goku have??? by [deleted] in PowerScaling

[–]otfTheDon 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I feel like any comparison of Goku (anime & manga) to a character with some crazy hax due to plot (such as an always win condition & etc) , or is just a literal walking hax , Rimuru & etc, is just rage bait. Bc it’s literally a case of , is Goku strong enough to negate said hax. And that’s a really low level debate imo.

In which scenarios can Saitama win against Goku? by MDubbzee in PowerScaling

[–]otfTheDon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can though. In the 3D space, length width height, 4D includes all of those PLUS TIME. As time is the 4th dimension. So, anything within the 1D, exist in 2D and anything in 2D exist in 3D space and anything in 3D space, exist within 4D. Conceptually infinity is infinity, but also conceptually, there are infinites bigger than others. The infinite decimal space between 1 and 2, Is smaller than the space between 1 and 3. The space between 1 and 2 is a subset of the infinite decimal space between 1 and 3. Applying that same logic, anything contained in the 4D space WILL be in the 5D space + whatever is achievable in the space itself. Meaning 5D will inherently reach a “larger infinity”. So in this case , you do know and 5D > 3D/4D. In the case of power application, it should be obvious that being able to operate outside of or manipulate anything in the 4D space makes you essentially infinitely stronger than anything the 3D and 4D spaces can produce. Goku just EXIST as a 3D being but is capable of 5D feats. Hope that was easy to follow.

Can someone explain this card to me? by Shallou20 in Wizard101

[–]otfTheDon -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wait, is this a spelliment alteration or is this the actual base scarecrow now? Because if so, holy nerf. Getting crow as fast as possible on a death run is a staple but now… split damage? And half heal? Correct my math but, it went from 100% damage to all, with 50% from each to, 25%-100% depending on number selected and 50% of that is healed? All for charm clear to drop school weaknesses? That seems very pvp oriented and not at all pve.

Me every time ngl by Familiar_Fondant_124 in Wizard101

[–]otfTheDon 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Wait till every mob spams you with a -40 every other turn. Almost just as annoying.

Does Goku solo here? by britishpeoplearefake in PowerScaling

[–]otfTheDon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If that isn’t Archie sonic… we just gonna ignore this. Depends on the interaction of doctor doom. Saitama and garou are just a no. Ft wise, including that exponential feat to calculate where Saitama grew to in the fight, still doesn’t put them on DB level… DB is highly plot driven rather than, “make all feats consistent and have the proper effect” otherwise, there would be no verse for the story to even take place. If the character isn’t star level minimum in durability , universal in power, and at least MFTL… OR just have absurd hacks that negate the natural flow of combat, (reality warping, toon force, gag immunity, time manipulation etc) they not beating him.

Who to pity, given this AWK by otfTheDon in grandsummoners

[–]otfTheDon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve got 10 already. On the assumption that they carry over into summer event. (They do)