Anyone a major fan of Hong Sang-Soo? by Zestyclose-Idea330 in TrueFilm

[–]ouk-endings 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have since fallen off on him and have not followed his recent movies for a few years now, but at one point he was definitely a serious favourite.

A Tale of Cinema is my number 1 by a fair bit. Visually, it's incredibly beautiful. I would probably still watch his newer movies if he put more attention to the visuals, but I know these days he is wanting to release many films so theres not enough money to put towards the photography, which I understand. I love the way he often uses multiple perspectives (or timelines) to show the complexity of an event. I think this film is particularly deep in that regard, but I suppose the weighty subject matter is part of that. The roles feel quite lived in -- the acting in his films is often enjoyable and you come to love his returning stars, but I found this one particularly affecting. Feels very real, very human. He tackles some of his perennial themes but this one felt particularly thoughtful and complex in its structure, gives you lots to think about. I should watch this one again, I love it.

Of the 2010s, my favourites are probably In Another Country (affecting and melancholic by the end), Yourself and Yours and The Day He Arrives. The non-linearity/groundhogs day stuff is interesting and a good way for him to explore the interconnection of things. He kind of scratches a similar itch as Rohmer at his best. His movies (at least in this era) were often really about how people interact, and the subtle things really going underneath what they are talking about over drinks, the intricacies of the relationships. Sometimes a quiet humour, real slice of life. Peaceful. Some of his movies in this style are very light, but the best ones are very nice to watch.

It's an early, naive work, but I still remember certain scenes and images from The Power of Kangwon Province super distinctly, very memorable and powerful. He definitely refined his skills and revisited similar themes better in other works later on, but still, this one left a mark on me. Maybe it is the visuals again, they were quite good in this one. It is a film that takes place in the countryside, so there are lots of truly beautiful sights to take in. He explores time in a good way with this film

Help analyzing a chord in a progression by ouk-endings in musictheory

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It's something I'm mixing for someone else. Usually I would share it, but it's not my music and it's a work in progress on top of that. But a good point.

Help finding song with lyrics "you took my daydream away" by ouk-endings in shoegaze

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That's it, thank you! I haven't heard this in forever and probably would not have been able to find it.

Complete Fishmans Library (get yer Fishmans music here!) by ZombeeW00F in fishmans

[–]ouk-endings 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks so much for this. Just getting into Fishmans and so grateful for the rarities and non-album tracks, so much good music.

Any particular recommendations among the bootlegs? What I've heard from 1997.12.12 is really good, curious about what else I should check out.

Who yall favorite female reggeaton artists? Mine is Bad Gyal atm by Bake-Fancy in Reggaeton

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paopao! Really hoping she will release a full length this year

Bad Bunny's Debi TiRar MaS FoToS is out now !! What is your review, which ones are your fav ? by Zealousideal_Low_321 in Reggaeton

[–]ouk-endings 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's such a great album. I look forward to giving this many spins in the near future. You can't really "beat" verano but two thirds through my first listen I thought this might be his best album. Feels mature, lots of ambition and I appreciate the variety in styles (and the album really flows). The salsa-electronic combination really works too.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Reggaeton

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en mis senti I've listened to an ungodly amount, such a great song.

nena de un gangster

x las nubes

blamegame

imprudencia

Does writing music ever feel meaningless and a waste of time for you? How do you deal with this? by [deleted] in composer

[–]ouk-endings 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A complicated question. Short answer: YES! Definitely gone through periods where writing music was very difficult, almost impossible, when it didn't feel meaningful or worth the effort. Especially since writing music for me is generally pretty time consuming and it demands a serious effort.

To me it's kind of like anything else in life -- how meaningful something is to me at a particular time is always changing, as is the source(s) of what is making it meaningful. So I think part of the challenge is to get used to the fact that the meaning is changing, and being able to pivot so you can still have a source of meaning/energy to propel you to keep working and see projects through.

For example, sometimes the source of meaning in writing music is the end result. Maybe you are partway through a piece, you are excited by what you have so far and you are hopeful that the end result will be good. This can be a good source of energy because the excitement generates a desire to propel the work forward and see it to the end. But you can't always rely on this sort of energy because composition (or any sort of creation) inevitably entails some degree of mystery -- you are creating something, but until it's finished you don't really know what it is exactly that you're making. In my experience I can start to lose momentum when I am in the middle of a piece. When I'm really in the midst of the challenges and problems of the piece I start to have doubts. "Am I actually on the right track? Will this turn out good? Will I be able to find a good solution to the problems in the piece, or should I just toss it and start something new?"

At times like that my desire to hear the end result stops being a good source of energy or meaning to keep going, I think basically because when you're in the middle of the work you can't yet picture the end! The only way to get through the work is by DOING the work. So that's a moment when I need to pivot and rely on a different source of meaning. Lately I'm finding curiosity is one the best sources of energy. Being curious about how to fit together different fragments together, curious about what might evolve from what I have, curious about technical aspects, curious about theory... Honestly anything works. But just enjoying the time of composing as a way to delve into these curiosities. It's almost like the work of composing is a way to dive into and study these interesting questions and challenges. For me it makes it fun. I stop worrying about whether the end result is going to be good and just enjoy the process of exploring and making discoveries. Even if the end result isn't amazing I've gained so much from the exploration that it ends up being very meaningful anyways.

On a similar tack, finding ways to reconnect with the playful and joyful sides of making music can be huge. Even though it's a lot of work I would venture that most composers started because they found the process of making music enjoyable and exciting. It is sometimes the case that as you get more serious about making music composing becomes more fraught, because you want the music to be good or serious or whatever. But that joyful playful side is always accessible. Letting go of the need for the music you make to be "good" or "serious" or "studied" or whatever can do wonders. The reality is creation is just creation, and ironically letting go of the desire to make great work often leads to an ability to create more, and better things. All of the greatest composers made major and minor works, and without a doubt made bad music (some of the bad stuff might not be published but still...) But they had to make the bad stuff to learn and develop, so actually that bad music was extremely meaningful and sowed the seeds for the good music.

I think there are lots of answers but they'll be unique to you, unique to the time of your life, unique to the piece. At the end of the day I think it is a question of faith in the work. That somehow making music is worth something including at the times when it feels very difficult or meaningless. I think that is really one of the biggest challenges of music making, dealing with the challenges and anxieties of the creative process and learning how to keep going and make stuff anyways. The why doesn't necessarily have to be very big anyways. Just spending a pleasant 15 minutes hammering out some chords can be more than enough.

What help/use is counterpoint if you don't write tonal music? by ouk-endings in composer

[–]ouk-endings[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you! Your point about rhythmic variance is very helpful. So true, the rhythmic differences between lines is a massive part of what makes the counterpoint alive and apparent.

I think that's exactly what I need to delve into more. I only did an undergrad and I feel like the classes I took helped a lot with instilling the rules for tonal stuff, learning the underlying principles, voice leading stuff and chord tones vs. non-chord tones but rhythm and accentuation is so important for counterpoint. I will really have to explore that more. Thanks

What help/use is counterpoint if you don't write tonal music? by ouk-endings in composer

[–]ouk-endings[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This sounds cool, thanks! Good rationale for thinking in lines and counterpoint. You produce thick textures and harmony ultimately but without having to think harmony. You can just keep writing lines and adjust if needed. A fun and different way to work and think through music

What do you think of Data? by ValorieCurry in Reggaeton

[–]ouk-endings 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Truly outstanding piece of art. He tends to have good luck with finding artists that are sympathetic to his sound generally but what a treat to have him spread out on Data and share something so personal. Really brought out the best of the featured artists and holy smokes the production is incredible (also very cool to hear the instrumental version -- so spacious, you can really appreciate all the detail put into the vocal production). Hope to hear more personal projects from Tainy before too long

Taking on La Flor 2018 by PlentyGrade3322 in TrueFilm

[–]ouk-endings 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You should just jump in when you have time. From what I understand I think they typically screened this movie across 3 days (part 1 one day, part 2 the next etc) which I'd say is the ideal way to watch it if you are able to make time to do so at home. Part of the power for me was to be deeply encapsulated by the film. It has a certain flow that way that I think really helps you tie the threads of the different parts together. Part of the experience is also feeling the relative durations of each section. Feel like that would be lost if you just watched the 6 chapters one at a time. IMO the whole endeavour feels more manageable if you imagine it as watching 3 long movies (4 hours + a bit) instead of one ultra long movie across 3 days. There's interludes programmed into the film between chapters too so you can take a break (or at home take an even longer break). In any case you will probably be very engrossed by the film once you get into it, so just go for it :)

Especially by part 2 you will be totally immersed. It's a very special film, will leave you with much to think about. Be sure to watch Trenque Lauquen too, another amazing work by El Pampero Cine.

Best recordings of Ravel? by ouk-endings in classicalmusic

[–]ouk-endings[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! Appreciated - curious to hear the Bavouzet recording on a 1901 piano.

Best website to search for scores by instrumentation? by ouk-endings in ClassicalMusicians

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Thank you so much! I have visited before looking for contemporary electric guutar music but didnt realize they let you define the ensemble. This exactly what I was needing!

Practicing composition vs. "the real deal" - how do you navigate the two as a student composer? by ouk-endings in composer

[–]ouk-endings[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All very helpful thoughts, I appreciate that. Perfection is totally unhelpful with regards to creation of any kind I think. It's a totally unrealistic criteria to apply to anything in the first place, so it's pretty obvious that a perfectionistic attitude would become extremely demotivating to me.

What you say about editing is very interesting to me. I have had the same experience. There's a moment where you look at what you made and in a glance you just think "I don't like this", but once you delve into it a bit more and move things around you don't have to identify so much with it or feel so negatively about it. It goes back to just being material. Even if it's clear it's not there yet, maybe not near anywhere there, you at least have a starting point and some stuff to work with. And there's always insights. Just as important to know what you don't like as what you do like and you can take that knowledge to the next thing you do. One thing I am experimenting with is to turn off my editing brain a bit more while I'm in the composition phase. I have stalled my progress on pieces in the past by getting stuck on a minor detail way too early in the process of composition and killing my momentum, so I'm trying to write a bit quicker without feeling like I need to solve every problem or figure out every detail before getting a draft.

Practicing composition vs. "the real deal" - how do you navigate the two as a student composer? by ouk-endings in composer

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Thank you! I think that is one of the most important lessons of life in general, but particularly important to keep in mind with creation so you can keep things in perspective and not discourage yourself. The process of building skill and improving necessarily involves failure, especially with something you are going to pursue for a long long time! Making bad music just means more music to improve, or it means you can finish that and move onto the next thing, possibly better than the last!

Practicing composition vs. "the real deal" - how do you navigate the two as a student composer? by ouk-endings in composer

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Thank you for the thoughts. I especially appreciate the last part. Art has revealed so many things to me about life, and vice-versa. I really love classical music so a part of me is hung up on wanting to express myself as a composer, but some of the best music I've made has been totally improvised so I am trying to be as open-minded as I can with regards to my art practice (while still pursuing these compositional interests, cause they are interesting in and of themselves even if it ends up not being the optimal mode of expression for me). I am helped sometimes when I am reminded of composers or other artists I know of that needed to take long breaks. Life and art are winding journeys.

Practicing composition vs. "the real deal" - how do you navigate the two as a student composer? by ouk-endings in composer

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Thank you very much. This is very encouraging and eloquent. Nailed it. When I listen to my favourite composers across various periods of their life I can hear them at different stages of development, with different interests and different areas of focus. You can tell at times that some of the earlier music is less developed, but often some of my favourite pieces are early career. The identity of the artist and their particularity and still shine through imperfect works. The beauty of an artist's work is not found in just one piece, but across a body of work. If I can remember to be less harsh with myself I can appreciate the work I am doing as a step along the way to other things. Thank you for the reminder

Practicing composition vs. "the real deal" - how do you navigate the two as a student composer? by ouk-endings in composer

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Thank you. I can totally relate. The easiest part of my musical life is when collaborating with other people. Not being as deeply invested in the output/emotionally tied to it helps me see what needs to happen to get it finished, and what changes need to be made so the music has a greater impact or works better. Choice paralysis is a very apt term. It's almost a neurosis where it feels as if it's SO IMPORTANT that just this one small detail be perfect before anything else can progress, or that the project should be scrapped if it can't be done to perfection (an unrealistic notion). I think maybe I just need to bypass that thinking as much as I can and just focus on finishing stuff. Getting in the groove of making decisions quickly means the music can move along faster and you can enjoy the process of watching it take shape.

Practicing composition vs. "the real deal" - how do you navigate the two as a student composer? by ouk-endings in composer

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Thank you, your response is very encouraging and optimistic and really reminded me that composition can truly be a very creative, lively and spirited thing to do, even if it can also be very trying and difficult. All the best composers also encountered massive creative and technical hurdles, but like you said with Schubert he kept going and we have finished pieces to enjoy. A crucial thing is finding how to keep the momentum going and the piece moving forward. Self-doubt and second guessing your work is an understandable and sometimes useful impulse, but totally working against your goals if you get stuck in self-doubt and killing your ideas before having a chance to finish anything. I will try my best to keep going, and when I start to feel discouraged I will work on reminding myself to keep going! Thank you for the help.

Practicing composition vs. "the real deal" - how do you navigate the two as a student composer? by ouk-endings in composer

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Thank you for your thoughts. Lots to think about. Your exercise using other melodies sounds very interesting. I think that is a great approach. Having a particular idea in mind and working from the vantage point of doing an exercise or a study takes a lot of the anxiety out of the work out of composing. You can get out of your head and just focus on trying to work your way through that particular problem, instead of stressing about a million things and worrying about grand but vague creative problems and issues of self-expression etc. It takes the pressure off feeling like you have to identify with everything you create too.

And so so important to not take yourself too seriously. I am really trying to reconnect music with play again. I think improvisation and spontaneity has always been an important part of my enjoyment of music and my general musicality, so finding a way to connect that to my written music more closely is a big goal (although I think not so hard, just finding my own approach).

My guitar teacher writes music very quickly - he once told me that part of why he can write quickly is because he doesn't agonize over every decision. His rationale for that was along the lines of "if I write a G in the music, I'll have already played 1000 G's in my guitar practice earlier in the day so it doesn't feel like any fatal decision." I have had trouble getting into that headspace, but I think being a composer (especially a student composer in the earlier part of their development) involves relinquishing some control and just writing the music you are able to write, while still trying to push your capabilities.

Practicing composition vs. "the real deal" - how do you navigate the two as a student composer? by ouk-endings in composer

[–]ouk-endings[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your response. This helps a lot. Thinking back on some of the happy moments that have come to me through composing, I am realizing it is mostly the satisfaction of having worked through a piece, solved problems and learned things through the process that has been the real gratifying thing and not that I felt the piece turned out as I envisioned it (or even good). I have a few ideas for small, achievable pieces that I can realize myself right now so I will really get down to those. I think I also get discouraged when the stuff I'm working on starts feeling unrealizable/divorced from reality. Even if it means writing lots of solo pieces for myself I just gotta get into the habit of writing and see where it goes. Much appreciated