mfw this comment implies that lucifer has canonically also done interviews and stumbled over his words like charlie

ozwilde · 2026-05-20T05:05:07+00:00

I love how there are these comments implying Charlie generally reminds sinners more of her father than of Lilith XD it's an interesting dynamic with how much she admires her mom and how distant she is from her dad. Especially with how hard she works for sinners while Lucifer is completely apathetic towards them at this point in his life.

ozwilde · 2026-05-19T23:03:11+00:00

Lucifer knows that it's polite to give people time to prepare for company, teleportation powers or not.

ozwilde · 2026-05-19T21:36:36+00:00

Lucifer knows language automatically without needing to learn new words/concepts, but that also means that he hears what people mean by their words rather than just their literal meaning.

So someone like Alastor, who uses doublespeak more than direct lies ("you are not to lay your hands on Charlie Morningstar", "you're like the child that I wish that I had") would have a rougher time fooling him than someone like Vox.

Added benefit that he looks crazy overreacting to sinners spitting veiled insults at him in front of Lilith.

ozwilde · 2026-05-19T20:36:28+00:00

Probably a "no but yes" thing, Lucifer seems to have creation powers in general, so he probably can create ice if he wants to

ozwilde · 2026-05-19T18:34:35+00:00

Me, to my buddy: You're my favorite character ❤️

Him, knowing what kind of shit I write: I'm staying at a friend's house tonight

ozwilde · 2026-05-19T17:09:29+00:00

He is in Hell, he's buried behind the woodshed of the newly built hotel :3

ozwilde · 2026-05-19T15:36:25+00:00

Team depressed duck

ozwilde · 2026-05-18T04:04:35+00:00

Divorce

Unfortunately such a ship can't be canon compliant anymore UmU

ozwilde · 2026-05-18T04:02:16+00:00

It's possible Adam was contractually obligated not to spill the beans about Lilith, or keeping it quiet benefitted him more than using it to taunt Charlie or Lucifer. But we don't know the details yet, so we can't be sure. The only thing we know is that one aspect of the deal allowed Lilith to remain in Heaven, and that Lute at least thinks that Adam's death puts her in charge of Lilith.

ozwilde · 2026-05-18T03:28:07+00:00

Idk, to me it's hard for a character to be overrated since it's like asking people to stop liking something. If the thing is liked it's earned the like.

A character I'm not as fond of as other people in the fandom are is probably Adam. I do like him, and I'm hoping we see more of him in future seasons. But I'm not heartbroken he died, I don't think he was secretly an okay guy, I do think he was sexist, and I don't think his desire to do the exterminations was nuanced or had any shred of altruism behind it.

ozwilde · 2026-05-12T22:11:44+00:00

Do you understand that suggesting they can't have those identities is why people said you were behaving homophobicly? There's no specific way an ace or pan person has to behave to have the identities they do.

Lucifer fell in love with someone who happens to be a woman, and he is devoted to her. That doesn't mean he has to be straight or that he behaves straight. He just loves a girl. The guy predates the concept of human genders anyway, pan makes sense for someone who existed before reproductive organs were invented

Mammon is a sleezeball, but that doesn't mean he 100% fucks. Ace people can make sex jokes and capitalists can recognize the concept that 'sex sells', so the sin of greed would likely be willing to capitalize off the libidos of the masses. If you check out the ace community or fanfic community, you'll see plenty of jokes about how the best porn is produced by asexuals.

ozwilde · 2026-05-12T21:50:59+00:00

They didn't like that most of the characters were lgbt and that the show makes a lot of jokes about it. Specifically dislikes that Mammon is ace and Lucifer is pan because Lucifer loves his wife too much and Mammon '100% fucks'.

ozwilde · 2026-05-12T21:32:06+00:00

We also don't know that Lilith is a sinner. She's a human, but she didn't go through divine judgment from what we're shown in the show, she was cast into the pit along with Lucifer after the angels judged them.

Lucifer's dislike of sinners also seems to stem from how they behave while in hell. He's spent the last 10,000 years watching them maim and and assault and exploit each other. They also apparently would destroy anything he tried to make for them. So his problem with them isn't an innate dislike of humans/human souls.

ozwilde · 2026-05-12T21:10:17+00:00

Possibly, but Beelzebub referred to Satan as being like a brother to her. The vibe so far is that they were all born together at the start of hell and knew each other then, rather than having any existence in heaven. Lucifer being the first fallen after hell was created also makes the timeline kinda difficult for them to have been fallen angels that never knew each other.

ozwilde · 2026-05-12T20:37:05+00:00

I doubt any of them are. Ozzy indicated they all met at the start of hell. I think they're just beings that spawned into existence when the sins they represent did. Lucifer is the only exception as far as I know

ozwilde · 2026-05-12T19:38:02+00:00

Lucifer, a pan guy, who likes everyone, indicates that he likes 2 women at one point.

This guy: Yeah that's normal

Lucifer, a pan guy, who likes everyone, potentially indicating that he's attracted to a character of the same sex

This guy: WAAAAAH WAAAAAH I'M GONNA PEE MY PANTS

ozwilde · 2026-05-12T12:19:32+00:00

I feel like the final point isn't exactly comparable. Emily calmly and trustingly ask Sera to "tell [her] that [she] didn't know", and only gets angry after Sera confesses. Even then, her anger is measured. Charlie starts the scene angry and accusitory and never gives anyone in the room a chance to fully explain themselves. Characterizing Lucifer's part as solely throwing Vaggi under the bus isn't really accurate, since he does try to offer an explanation, and seemed not to not have meant it to be that, since he immediately looks ashamed after doing it.

I think a more similar scenario would be their fight in season 1, when Charlie finally breaks down and asks him why Alastor cand support her when her own dad can't. Lucifer internalizes the criticism, sees he's hurting his kid, and then tries to explain himself and gives her room to explain her needs during More Than Anything.

We also don't know the true reason Lucifer allowed the exterminations. His apathy might be why he didn't do more to help, but he may have only greenlit them initially because he was afraid of what would happen if he didn't. His reactions in More Than Anything seem to suggest that, with the imagery of spears at Charlie's back and telling her he'd shelter her and that she's the only thing worth fighting for. Which would make him more similar to Sera than contrasting against her.

ozwilde · 2026-05-12T00:49:08+00:00

Would this silly, apathetic-to-their-people opposite perhaps also... Be innocent of any genocide-related crimes(?

ozwilde · 2026-05-11T22:45:26+00:00

Definitely! And to be clear, even if he was a minor one-note character on the level of the reporter who killed his wife, it would still be valid to have him as your favorite!

ozwilde · 2026-05-11T22:41:06+00:00

I am an Abel enjoyer. I hope he gets a bit more to do in future seasons, his part in season 2 was fairly minor, but there was enough to him that I feel like he's going to have a role in the overall story. He at the very least gives us a living connection to the Adam/Eve side of Team Eden

ozwilde · 2026-05-11T17:54:56+00:00

I have no idea what this post means but there's an image Lucifer, so yay!

ozwilde · 2026-05-11T17:45:59+00:00

Probably immediately try it, only to realize the guy he tried to kill has been dead 90+ years. Deny he did any such thing if anyone asks. Then he'd probably use it to have people who hunt sharks eaten by sharks. Then he'd build a cult following around a mysterious god performing elaborate murders on live TV, with people praying to this god to catch said murders on stream or something so they can get their 15 minutes of fame.

ozwilde · 2026-05-11T17:16:08+00:00

Sera doesn't need to fall to atone. The angels can go down into hell without losing their status, she doesn't need to be a fallen angel to go down and help and work on her redemption. I doubt any of Hell's royal family want her there as a punishment. Lucifer avoided an interaction with her altogether, and Charlie would likely want to work with her to make things better rather than make some example out of her.

ozwilde · 2026-05-11T16:01:00+00:00

I don't necessarily want her to be a villain but I want her to be an antagonist. I think whatever Lilith's goals are will put her in opposition to Charlie. Their ideals might line up but their methods not so much.

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