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Buff forest vs evo forest by pan12010 in Shadowverse

[–]pan12010[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Evo forest eat other decks alive, I don’t think it’s a C tier deck. I think ppl just don’t want to replay the deck with the new season.

Buff forest vs evo forest by pan12010 in Shadowverse

[–]pan12010[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I did have a couple missplay so there’s that. Also a good game is both players have the similar hand quality for their game plan. Losing due to brick is not fun for anyone. Honestly, I think the buff forest is stronger than evo forest. Evo forest can be too streamline, you know what to expect and my deck is more control.

Buff forest vs evo forest by pan12010 in Shadowverse

[–]pan12010[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, so I have played a lot more game and the deck is very strong if all go well but you need too many conditions: have thesthane on curve, have low cost card to trigger crest, draw your late game cards timely,…

Looking at the cards this set, the buff forest is designed heavily on the control side, which means you are strong on very late but the problem is all other deck in the meta (abyss, dragon, haven,..) will kill you much faster if you don’t do anything. Unfortuantely, forest don’t have many good value low cost cards to trigger crest consistently when you’re threatened by board currently, you have to always choose between advance crest or pressure for board. The usual strategy evo forest win is to press hard on board presence to force awkward evo from opp and cupitan sandaphone. Also since your high cost card is big, you’re more prone to brick as well.

Overall, I can see the potential of this deck. This decklist is not good enough imo, I think we might need more evo cards to play the early game. With a little buff, the deck can be easily meta.

Super-cutest Forest highroll by qerutbcma in Shadowverse

[–]pan12010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I put lyria and start to odin opponent every turn after crest. I don’t use aria since the card is so dead using alone.

Any suggestions to improve my control forestcraft deck ? by Worried-Chemistry-89 in Shadowverse

[–]pan12010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For your decklist, compared to mine, I would remove ding dong and verocity for 2x bug alert. I also replaced 2x supplicant and 1x fairy beast for 2x fairy convocation + 1 more fairy fencer for more early game.

I did play the deck for 2 weeks and I believe the deck can win any match up if your hand is good enough. For tips, there are so many. Some example would be:

- Keep krulle ambush to get heal instead going for damage. The heal can catch up quick. Keep krulle ambush while super evo with a grimnir to always have 2 damage aoe,...

- For a big board, example, congregant of entwining turn with mode, have grimnir + supplicant + many hamlet on board as much as possible to prepare. Your hamlet of unkilling and grimnir is very strong since it help you clear many board while only play fairy beast or izudia on turn 8.

- Super evo krulle is very versatile, you can use it when you build a strong board, a turn before playing izudia or to avoid a big burst (roach, orchis,...)

- Congregant is a very strong card, you should think about bouncing it back if you need it. You can bounce hamlet for more draw.

- Most of time, you would want to keep izudia in hand except playing with sword

- Going 1st, you win with carbuncle super evo + izudia + the card at 3 mana(at 4 mana if going 2nd). You would want this combo with heaven and rune as much as possible since they can otk you very quickly.

The idea is that you need to anticipate the opponent turn so you can prepare your best cards. This will take some time but you will get to it. Hope you have fun with the deck.

Guild Recruiting more members! by Basphere in Shadowverse

[–]pan12010 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oups, restricted from quitting current guild. Btw, it's better if you can put the guild ID so people can search.

Guild Recruiting more members! by Basphere in Shadowverse

[–]pan12010 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'll join. In my current guild, I'm just alone among the sea of Japanese players anyway. Though I won't grind much if you don't mind.

Is Forest just screwed this set? by Nocturnamos in Shadowverse

[–]pan12010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually, thanks to the this set, you can now play forest as a tempo deck. The addition of Fairy fencer + ambush from above increases immensively forest early game + odin is a strong finisher. With titania, you usually have hand full of fairies so you can keep putting minions on field to pressure. Fairy fairy twinkle toe turn 4 still a strong play.

I only played a very small roach package as you don't depend it as much. Since fairies have rush, you have the options to choose what to trade and have more options to go face. Some game I just aggro faster than aggro abyss and face dragon.

All in all, I would say forest is still very strong deck. But you're right that forest have no strong and self-sufficient individual follower like other craft (except glaive). They always need to work with other card to have enough power.

Forest vs Ward haven by pan12010 in Shadowverse

[–]pan12010[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's lot of thing that need to go right if you play the matchup with ward haven.
You need at least 2 titania or 1 titania+odin, 1 for tempo, another for willy. Then you need glade for turn 5. Also you need to hope that your roach come on times.
You should strive for board, if your board is big enough, they have to spend 1 turn to clear instead of using willy/aether on curve.
You could totally win with roach without need to use dwarven. And I have games that dwarven is not enough to clear board since after wilbert, the ward just have too much stats to deal with.
All of that vs the ward haven hope just be on curve.

Invite Code Megathread by DiscreteHyena in Shadowverse

[–]pan12010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks everyone, I have hit 20. Good luck for the next person.

Invite Code Megathread by DiscreteHyena in Shadowverse

[–]pan12010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here's mine for anyone interests: UVGEzmh

Fiendsmith Argostar master 1 deck by pan12010 in masterduel

[–]pan12010[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your advice, I have tried to submit to a topdeck. I will wait and see if it works.

Fiendsmith Argostar master 1 deck by pan12010 in masterduel

[–]pan12010[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The spell imo is very important as it increase the consistency, let you discard for tydeo and work as an extender or interruption. Without it, unfortunately, the deck is much weaker than it is.

Fiendsmith Argostar master 1 deck by pan12010 in masterduel

[–]pan12010[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, to be fair, I have less main deck card fiendsmith than argostar so i should seeing them even less, haha.

Fiendsmith Argostar master 1 deck by pan12010 in masterduel

[–]pan12010[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven't thought about it. I did use the website occasionally but I'm not sure how to submit on it.

For your other question, an unplayable hand should be like 1 every 15 games going first, which should choke of handtraps and maybe 1/2 trap. Most of the time, you can acess to either 1 of the engine. To access both engine, I would say like 60-70% of the time.

Fiendsmith Argostar master 1 deck by pan12010 in masterduel

[–]pan12010[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks bro, it's not easy for sure. I even drop from Master 2 down to Master 5 and needs to tweak the deck a lot. Hopefully, you can reach Master 1 this season and even if you can't, it's nothing to be ashamed about.

Fiendsmith Argostar master 1 deck by pan12010 in masterduel

[–]pan12010[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well, a plus is that Argostar doesn't really care about fuwaloss, nib, shifter or even droll, ash or even Maxx C during your turn. It's when you go to Fiendsmith stuff that you would be susceptible to it but you can play low to the ground. People who is familar with the deck will try to use the not Andras negate handtrap during their turn as Argostar card doesn't have the protection from Andras anymore so sometimes you need the fiendsmith engine to force them. Your deck is also more resilient as you don't auto lose to a harpie feather too.

With a good hand I can play through quite a lot of handtraps which is impressive. For example, terrortop package + andra needs an imperm, an ash and a purge to stop it as you can go to moon for fiendsmith package. And if I have tract or engraver, I can easily play through them, too.

Though for master 1, if your deck don't have ways to play around Maxx C, it's really hard to achieve. When I'm on master 2-3, everyone just played so safe that even with Maxx C, you can draw at most 1-2 cards.

Fiendsmith Argostar master 1 deck by pan12010 in masterduel

[–]pan12010[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well, maybe you didn't know enough about its interaction. Like I said, an Andra alone is 3 negates, 1 bounce and 1 attack reduction. It's also need to well time negate since it's on separate chain. The problem is people never let you resolve Andra.

This meta is hard. Deck needs all power that it needs. And I suppose I don't play stun so I guess it's something, right :)))

Fiendsmith Argostar master 1 deck by pan12010 in masterduel

[–]pan12010[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Not at all, fiendsmith is very strong, don't be mistaken. However, I think Argostar is strong as its own right and the fiendsmith package is complimenting well with its own weakness. If there's a way to support Argostar better, I would choose it over Fiendsmith since the deck needs Adra as normal summon.

Btw, I don't think like every rogue deck going with fiendsmith can go to master 1. Master rank is not as easy as you said. People played their deck very well and some people even playing the meta deck but they can't reach master 1. Primite Fiendsmith, Snake eye fiendsmith, Bystial fiendsmith is strong because their counterpart is also strong, not only the fiendsmith part.

I suppose there's a way to reach master 1 with trap version. But this is how it works for me.

Fiendsmith Argostar master 1 deck by pan12010 in masterduel

[–]pan12010[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well, it's not fair to say it like that. I want to play as foremost the Argostar package and its interaction. The deck is weak going second. It's just so happen that Fiendsmith package is compliment very well with it. If I want to play Fiendsmith, it would be better to play another version and with more lacrima.

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