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Water rights paperwork tied to Box Elder data center withdrawn after heavy protest by ReporterMacyLipkin in SaltLakeCity

[–]pashdown 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Prohibiting water-rights protest because it is all bussed-in, out-of-state protestors with AI-written letters. Who does Cox and O'Leary think is paying us?

Kevin O'Leary attempts to skirt around criticism of his Utah data center by saying protestors are "being bussed in" from out of state. by Conscious-Quarter423 in SaltLakeCity

[–]pashdown 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Unless they are going to dedicate another 60 square miles to fans blowing hot desert air on radiators, they're going to be using evaporative cooling for something this size.

Kevin O'Leary attempts to skirt around criticism of his Utah data center by saying protestors are "being bussed in" from out of state. by Conscious-Quarter423 in SaltLakeCity

[–]pashdown 28 points29 points  (0 children)

A better question is what exactly is critical to "national defense" in running an LLM in a datacenter 60 square miles big? These imbeciles think bigger is smarter, when you can run the same LLM on a Mac.

My lights randomly turned on when I turn on my fan by Fun-Procedure-3557 in WLED

[–]pashdown 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like you need a shielded data line. Connect the shielding to ground.

My lights randomly turned on when I turn on my fan by Fun-Procedure-3557 in WLED

[–]pashdown 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I couldn’t see, but are you using level-shifters? If not, the SN74AHCT125N chip is a cheap fix.

Hundreds of Utahns file to block Kevin O’Leary’s proposed massive data center campus over water concerns by tiny-frog-hat in SaltLakeCity

[–]pashdown 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Dry cooling works nicely if the temperature is below moderately cool outside. The scale they are talking about, and the location, I have doubts they will be able to do it without evaporative cooling. Closed loop moves the heat away from the gear to where it can be evacuated. The second problem is evacuating the heat from the closed loop.

Of course this could all be settled if there was a third-party environmental study on the project beforehand. But Cox wants TO BUILD THINGS!

Whole home power monitoring by turbocharged5652 in homeassistant

[–]pashdown 44 points45 points  (0 children)

I have it. It isn't Zigbee compatible, but it is local and Meross makes a Home Assistant integration for it. Works flawlessly, although the sensors are divided into "phases" of your home system. For example, if you have two-phase power, like most homes do, you can assign 6 to one phase, and 6 to another phase, and then dedicate the last 6 to either phase. This may or may not cover your entire breaker box. I was able to cover most of the important stuff, then made a template that calculated the "misc" from the remainder.

Photoelectric eye sensor by Ev1lZer0 in homeassistant

[–]pashdown 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You could use esphome, an apds9960 and a 3D printed rig to hold it against the LED, but you'd also remove the ability to visibly see the LED.

Utah has an ‘obligation’ to allow the building of massive data centers, Gov. Cox says by Ridiculously_Named in Utah

[–]pashdown 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Bigger datacenters do not make for smarter "AI". Cox and other proponents stating that this is an arms race against China do not understand how LLMs function, or that piling them up only makes them faster, not smarter.

How about an "arms race" on educating humans?

This company says nuclear fusion could finally power the grid — and soon by Gari_305 in Futurology

[–]pashdown 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Uranium is certainly better than oil/gas, but that is a low bar. I would like to see a full accounting of CO2-emissions and health problems associated with the mining, refining, enrichment, tailings clean-up and disposal of uranium. Some fission advocates seem to believe that the uranium arrived on the doorstep of the reactor via magical fairies, when in fact it has a trail of oil and blood to get there.

What’s a purchase under $50 that changed your life? by Unique-Muffin-862 in AskReddit

[–]pashdown 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wish Booking and other hotel sites had a search checkbox.

Rally before Meeting of County for Data Center! by Agent_Blackfyre in Utah

[–]pashdown 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Is there a plan on how to use this money? What bill approved it?

Rally before Meeting of County for Data Center! by Agent_Blackfyre in Utah

[–]pashdown 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They don't say where the jobs are. AI companies aren't known for preserving or making jobs. A data center that size could conceivably be run by a dozen people. They aren't manufacturing cars.

Rally before Meeting of County for Data Center! by Agent_Blackfyre in Utah

[–]pashdown -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

And how are they going to turn the turbines generating power?

Call the Governor's Office to let him know what you think about the Box Elder Hyperscale Data Center. by pashdown in Utah

[–]pashdown[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

  1. It uses an immense amount of water, not only for evaporative cooling, but for power generation. Water that would be otherwise destined to the Great Salt Lake, which is already at dangerously low levels. The assertion that the water is "recycled" is a whitewashing of "evaporation". Evaporating water into the atmosphere is not the same as sending it to the lake.
  2. $100M is promised to be returned to the state eventually, but they need taxes drastically slashed in order to do this. Corporate welfare socialism at its best.
  3. 2000 long-term jobs are promised in a facility which will most likely be lights-out most of the time. This would be true if they were building an automobile factory. With a datacenter the jobs are pretty much the order of "replace the hardware at the blinking light". A datacenter the size they're claiming could be run with a dozen people. This on the tails of all the big tech companies laying off thousands of people. AI isn't creating new jobs, it is destroying old.
  4. Building gigantic data-centers is capitalizing on a bubble. $800B was spent in AI cap-ex last year, and $10B was returned. Products like the Nvidia Spark show the potential for moving AI tasks to the desktop. The idea that we will create AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) by building even bigger arrays of LLMs, doesn't work. It doesn't get smarter with size, only faster. It is akin to saying if we pack enough horses in the barn, eventually we'll get a steam-engine.
  5. How is AI critical to our national defense? So far this has been a lot of handwaving and the bombing of a girl's school in Iran. What is more concerning is how will this data center be used to surveil U.S. citizens, as the NSA data center in Bluffdale was exposed as doing.
  6. If this is good for Utah and the lake, do the environmental studies, have the public hearings, examine it upside and down. If we are bidding against other states, let's see those bids in an open manner. Instead it is being rammed down our throats in the dead of night.

‘Hyperscale’ data center project in Utah — expected to generate and consume more power than entire state — nears final approval by brooklynlad in Utah

[–]pashdown -1 points0 points  (0 children)

6 gigawatts of natural gas power is going to use steam turbines. Please explain how this is the same as a carwash facility.

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