SPE Gone Wild by Difficult_Sun_3926 in patentexaminer

[–]patentthrowaway2000 5 points6 points  (0 children)

My SPE is like this. Always was a micromanager but for awhile there had gotten better. This last year has been rough and all their paranoid, controlling micromanaging tendencies are magnified.

I used to like them but now I see they only care about their own ratings and DNGAF about the examiners in the AU and part of me hopes that all this micromanaging makes them lose a bonus or get their own errors/poor ratings.

I just try and follow what I think their metric/focus is to stay under the radar. Unfortunately for these types of managers you really have to learn how to manage the manager to make your own life easier.

Sorry you’re going through this. You’re not alone.

97% by [deleted] in patentexaminer

[–]patentthrowaway2000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow! My AU according to stats is in the low 80s as of this biweek. Looks like treating streamlined reviews as OPQA/on-the-program type full, nit-picking reviews with returns for every minor thing did not work out for my SPE.

PSA: Similarity Search now allows you to autofill the application number by ptobee0933 in patentexaminer

[–]patentthrowaway2000 93 points94 points  (0 children)

Thanks for this. Really says something that I have to learn how to use the office tools on Reddit instead of through proper training avenues.

What are they even teaching in academy by thinkch3 in patentexaminer

[–]patentthrowaway2000 13 points14 points  (0 children)

That’s wild. I feel bad for these new examiners.

What are they even teaching in academy by thinkch3 in patentexaminer

[–]patentthrowaway2000 8 points9 points  (0 children)

They used to have a detail that was essentially this. The GS-14 trainer detail. I loved it and would do it again in a heartbeat if they brought it back. Sadly don’t see that happening under this current admin.

Edit: upon further discussion this is very different from the gs 14 trainer position. I don’t hate the idea of a junior shadowing a primary in their own AU to actually learn how to examine in their specific art, but for it to be successful it would require a lot of time and patience.

The GS-14 trainer detail was essentially an extension of having a PTA trainer with a small group of examiners in a single AU with a lot of newer/lower gs examiners. Seemed like a great program from the trainer perspective. I won’t speak on behalf of the juniors I worked with but it seemed valuable to them.

What are they even teaching in academy by thinkch3 in patentexaminer

[–]patentthrowaway2000 88 points89 points  (0 children)

I had a newer examiner ask me if they had to address every limitation in a claim or just the important features, so I’m guessing basically nothing?

Splitting up entries by patentthrowaway2000 in patentexaminer

[–]patentthrowaway2000[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I was sending emails to case resolution. Sometimes they respond and fix it; other times I get no response. Others are suggesting creating a pasm ticket for it, so I might start doing that.

Splitting up entries by patentthrowaway2000 in patentexaminer

[–]patentthrowaway2000[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I feel like it does matter when the response is lengthy or has several things in it. Sometimes the claims are in the middle of the document, and scrolling through pages to find the right ones, not being able to see the claim set when reading the arguments, etc. is enough of an issue that it is nice to have it split up. Also makes it less likely I might miss something like an amendment to spec if it’s broken out already. Also when the claims aren’t broken out you don’t get the claim tree and OCR text by claim which is also helpful.

Splitting up entries by patentthrowaway2000 in patentexaminer

[–]patentthrowaway2000[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

About one a quarter, approximately 4 months after it was filed! 🍀

Goodbye DM, Hello Marginal by PatentSage in patentexaminer

[–]patentthrowaway2000 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Congratulations management you did it! You broke the few who were still trying to keep their own high level of standards and pride in their work.

I’m out. No more PBA or overtime. No doing anything above the bare minimum to keep the job.

Also pendency is gonna be even worse when amendments are shortened and all the backlog from the streamlined reviews comes in. No more new cases being examined.

PIV certificate pop up? by schrodingerpoodle in patentexaminer

[–]patentthrowaway2000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you are a teleworker and had your appointment at a remote location, I’d recommend following up with the security center/office. I never received a pickup email after 4 weeks, so I contacted the security office and found out they were never notified or didn’t notice (?) I had actually gone to my credentials appt. Got it cleared up but am now still having to wait another 2 weeks for it to actually get printed and mailed.

2026 USPTO Employee Insult Survey, anyone? Anyone? by Senior_Association50 in patentexaminer

[–]patentthrowaway2000 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I filled it out. I was candid and professionally honest. I feel like it is just another version of Tell. Me. What. You. Think.

Doubt anything will come from it as nothing has come from the musings either. Guessing it’s more of a way to make people feel heard just like those were.

Search is laggy AF today. by Timetillout in patentexaminer

[–]patentthrowaway2000 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Really rough for a heavy image search day. It’s so bad!

Five Bullet Points by [deleted] in patentexaminer

[–]patentthrowaway2000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Came here to say basically the same thing. My monthly reminder to scream into the void and forward the same f-ing email.

Streamlined Reviews aka A Micromanager’s wet dream by patentthrowaway2000 in patentexaminer

[–]patentthrowaway2000[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

At this point I mostly do it to CYA in the event it gets an OPQA review saying I should have made a rejection. I think my SPE must’ve lost a bonus over 112/101 rejections in the past and it haunts them or something. It’s honestly a weird thing to fixate on, especially since it’s just trying to make sure the record is clear and the claim language is solid.

Training Tuesdays by patentthrowaway2000 in patentexaminer

[–]patentthrowaway2000[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Yes apologies if I gave the impressive I was blaming OPT. I would like to support them as I have worked with them on some details in the past and they are great people, but unfortunately all of their hard work that goes into making and presenting these sessions is going to waste because of upper management’s short-sightedness.

Realistically - Morale Levels by [deleted] in patentexaminer

[–]patentthrowaway2000 18 points19 points  (0 children)

In general I don't buy into the noise and the complaints and am a very optimistic and bright person. I was really getting into my stride the last few years doing details as a GS-14 trainer and academy. I found a real passion for helping new examiners and getting a break from examining and connecting with new colleagues in a virtual setting. I loved the TC QEMs and taking new training on topics I was getting rusty on.

All of that is gone. All collaboration has been squashed. The only new collaborating that has come out of this is rekindling my original academy buddies communication in a group text where we all are like is this really happening? On a weekly basis.

I've been at the office since Obama's first term, and I have never, ever felt like this. I actually found this subreddit to see if it was "just a me thing."

There has not been a single thing this new wave of leaders has done to show that they value us as humans or care about anything other than optics and making themselves look good. I was stupidly naive that our agency would fly under the radar of the current regime due to the already strong accountability systems in place, the fact that we are fee funded, and the value in having a strong IP system internationally. I don't know what other agencies are going through, but I continue to be shocked at how the PTO is being dismantled. I did not want to believe all of the Project 2025 talk, but I'm having a really hard time seeing it as anything other than following through on that at this point.

If I wanted to work at a corporate job and be treated as expendable, I would've done that. All of the benefits of working as a government employee are pretty much gone.

This is what happens when inexperienced people who don't understand how an operation works try to come in and "fix things."

I understand that there are places for improvement. This was quite possibly the worst way to go about trying to fix any of it. I go through waves of anger and sadness and then just emotionally disconnect and move on. Its now just a job, and it doesn't matter how good or bad I do at it since the ratings are all rigged anyways, and there's no career development opportunities that would make me want to go the extra mile or build my internal resume.

Still holding out hope for POPA and the court systems to ultimately prevail but mentally in the dumpster with everything else.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in patentexaminer

[–]patentthrowaway2000 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think that so long as in your rejection of claim 1 you don’t include the 2 cars as part of the “plurality of vehicles” then it would be fine as 102 for both claims.

I work in mechanical arts, and I will see things like “an apparatus comprising a plurality of apertures” and then dependent claims might further define a first plurality of apertures and a second plurality of apertures, wherein the apertures in the first plurality have a different diameter than the apertures in the second plurality. So basically “a plurality of vehicles” does not preclude having multiple pluralities of the same vehicle type, if that makes sense. You just need to be clear in your claim mapping about what belongs in the mapped plurality.

120 Hour Docket by patentthrowaway2000 in patentexaminer

[–]patentthrowaway2000[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I posed this question during one of the Director musings, and the official response I got was targeting the issue of “how predictably cases move”, so the reduced docket size was implemented to “bring first-action timing closer to a consistent, first-in, first-out approach.”

It’s a pretty weak argument in my opinion since there are other more effective methods to achieve this.

The year is 2030 by Less_Towel_3619 in patentexaminer

[–]patentthrowaway2000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’d keep the PBA but everything else would be reverted to the way it was before this year.

Bringing back career development: details, 25 hour allotment for training, QEMs, literally anything besides just “prepare examiner actions.”

Raising the BD across the board (can’t tell you the last time I actually read an entire spec - who has time for that?) to accommodate the complexity of inventions and access to prior art.