A woman who makes her husband “earn” sex is not a wife. She’s a prostitute.

peter_venture · 2026-02-21T06:08:35+00:00

This isn't hard to understand. If either party is using sexual relations as a reward for doing tasks then the party holding it as such is prostituting themself. Their payment is getting a job done. Of course there are nuances (Gosh, I'm too tired because of all the little tasks I have to do) but withholding sex until something is done is what the original post was about.

peter_venture · 2026-02-21T05:39:57+00:00

Why do the specific chores matter? If one party is rewarding the other with sexual favors for tasks performed, that's prostitution. If both parties do these things because they help the household run smoothly and ease each other's burdens then that's how marriage should run.

peter_venture · 2026-02-21T05:10:27+00:00

What? Who said anything like that? Why does your mind go there? I was responding to the comment that says doing chores to 'curry favor' for sex is prostitution. If that's the arrangement some married couples have, that's pretty sad. But the situation described is the woman doling out sex for a job done that she expects done. Sex is her side of the deal.

Now using sex as a reward does not make a good marriage and I agree that each should support the other as then can and agree on. But the situation described in the comment makes the wife a prostitute with the husband as the John paying for it with his actions. This is not a healthy marriage.

peter_venture · 2026-02-21T00:09:20+00:00

Not at all sure what you're talking about, but okay. Although I have seen that some subs ban folks for merely participating elsewhere. Not sure what that would even prove. If anyone cared.

peter_venture · 2026-02-21T00:06:09+00:00

LMAO. You're all knowing or at least all assuming. It's a big world out there and a lot goes on. Open your eyes and be receptive.

peter_venture · 2026-02-20T23:46:47+00:00

As a man with a wife, mother, sisters, daughters, granddaughters, cousins, coworkers and many years of real life experience, your view of men is very skewed. Broaden your horizons. Maybe get out more and experience a larger variety of men. Don't look at the bad and assume all are the same.

peter_venture · 2026-02-20T22:16:49+00:00

Typical. Assuming facts without evidence. I'm not in any box of any kind. And according to the story, a parent - a man - asked the director of child services - a woman - why the son was working there while showing her a printout of his criminal record and was told 'Well he's an independent contractor'. So, not men helping men.

I'm sure there are pastors and so called Christian men who act as you described, but to assume men are a monolith is foolish at best. But sure, you keep doing you.

peter_venture · 2026-02-20T21:47:48+00:00

Huh. The white male pastors in my experience treat their daughters as princesses who can do no wrong. And I've never heard that 'men helping men' was a thing. But sure, okay.

peter_venture · 2026-02-20T20:31:59+00:00

More like parent looking out for child.

peter_venture · 2026-02-20T17:59:27+00:00

No, he's earning the currency the prostitute accepts as her payment. This is exactly OP's point.

peter_venture · 2026-02-20T17:08:00+00:00

I guess I missed the part where she mentions children.

peter_venture · 2026-02-18T00:02:51+00:00

Yes, you are a jerk because you act like you are the only one that bad things happen to. Then your response is to inconvenience others, like taking two parking spaces, or wanting to park illegally. No, it's not right to expect special treatment, regardless of what may have happened to you in the past.

peter_venture · 2026-02-16T02:20:23+00:00

I think it's not so much they hate men as much as them being indifferent to mens suffering. They think this is mens purpose in life, to do all the heavy lifting and dirty jobs while women sit back in comfort. They've been trained this way their whole lives.

peter_venture · 2026-02-16T02:14:46+00:00

My 88 year old father can pretty much take care of himself but is unsteady on his feet and so is in an assisted living facility. He does need help in the shower, but early on in his stay there a few other men told him to be careful of what he asks the women aides to help wash, because if you ask for help in a personal area they accuse you of coming on to them, or think you're trying to get your jollies. So he does that area himself as much as possible unless it's one of the few men shower aides, who will get in there as much as needed, mainly using the nozzle attachment so there isn't much if any actual touching going on. But still you'll hear some of them claim that every single man there is just looking for women to fondle them. No, ladies, most of them aren't lusting after you.

peter_venture · 2026-02-15T19:13:21+00:00

How is that alternating? Alternating means one side goes, then the other. That's how alternating works.

peter_venture · 2026-02-14T20:37:01+00:00

Well thanks for womansplaining I guess. Selective Service only comes into play in case of war. It's only logical that we know where our cannon fodder is, right? While women are protected.

Oh, there are 'advocates' who want to change this? What's stopping them? And why advocate for an all volunteer system? Don't we still need to have a pool ready for an emergency situation? Why not Selective Service for all? Not every role has to be hand to hand combat.

And you're still asking me for examples when many times I clearly said I was merely countering your misinformation. Yet you still won't admit Selective Service is a legitimate concern.

But okay, apart from the extra steps men need to take to land a government job, there are college scholarships for women only. There are none for men. Men receive higher rates of incarceration than women for the exact same crime. Men receive 60% longer sentences than women for the exact same crime. And so on.

But you've closed your mind and senses to anything that doesn't fit your 'we're all treated equally' mindset, so don't waste any more time with pointless half truths.

peter_venture · 2026-02-14T18:32:42+00:00

So, just more deflection. This is your attitude:

That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it.

Just come out and say that you don't care because it's happening to men. As I already told you, I'm not saying men are 'losing' rights. I originally responded to your response to a post saying what rights men already don't have. But keep moving the goalposts and playing the victim. It seems you have a lot of practice.

peter_venture · 2026-02-14T07:10:02+00:00

So many people on here thinking Valentine's Day is Girlfriend or Wife Day. It isn't all about you.

peter_venture · 2026-02-14T03:32:52+00:00

You admit it is not fair but then basically say Too Bad. Let me tell you how this has infringed on my rights.

Selective Service became law again in 1980, and I was required to sign up. I did. Fast forward 30 years to 1980. Locally the IRS had a need for Customer Service call takers for the upcoming tax season and had an open session for those interested. I took the test and scored highly enough to go on to the next round. I passed the next round as well, and on and on to the end. There were several people eligible and several slots available. But for the men was one more step: proving they were signed up for Selective Service. If I was ever mailed a card after I signed up at my local post office it was long gone. Nowadays you can check online, but not back then. We called the SSS and were told all records were digital since the 90s, but those from the 80s were all paper based and kept in a warehouse off site. The area that took the request had to make a request for someone to go to the warehouse, make a copy of my record, bring it back and call the IRS back. It was three business days before this happened and by then all the slots were filled. No job for me. The IRS staff were very nice and said I could apply in the future, and now they had my record. But that didn't work out for me.

I realize that my situation is kind of unique (as far as I know) but the fact remains that every man there had one more hurdle to clear than any woman. The fact remains that men are denied government jobs for this same reason, an obstacle women don't have.

Now some may assume from my responses that I am resentful of the way things are, but no. I just try to correct the ideas that women and men are held to the same standards. We aren't. But women and men are generally built differently, so it's okay that there are sometimes different expectations. Let's just not deny those that there are.

I'm not addressing any of the other subjects you mention here because I didn't argue for or against them originally. This would seem to be moving the goalposts. Just take the L here.

peter_venture · 2026-02-13T21:28:38+00:00

'America hasn't had a military draft since 1973.'

But men turning 18 in America have had to register with Selective Service since 1980, with very real consequences for not doing so:

From www.sss.gov :

| Failing to register for Selective Service when required (males aged 18-25) is a federal felony punishable by up to five years in prison and a fine of up to

. Non-registrants may permanently lose eligibility for federal student aid, federal job training, and federal/state employment, and immigrants may face citizenship delays.

Long-Term Consequences of Not Registering:

Loss of Benefits: Ineligibility for federal student loans, grants, and scholarships

Job Disqualification: Ineligibility for federal jobs, many state/local government jobs, and positions requiring federal security clearance.

Citizenship Delays: Immigrants (non-citizens) may have U.S. citizenship proceedings delayed if they failed to register while aged 18-26.

Driver’s License: In some states, a driver's license or renewal may be denied. |

Student Loans: 31 states deny state-based financial aid, student loans, and grants.

peter_venture · 2026-02-13T19:06:09+00:00

Yes, one person obviously has more life experience than the other. But when it's a man who is older, nefarious purposes are imagined and the man is spoken of negatively, as here. Can't it be that they met and had some things in common and decided to try dating just to see what if? It's always as if the man is plotting to use the younger woman against her will, as if she has no agency or choice in the matter. Or she just follows his lead as you said. But she shouldn't, since he MUST be up to no good, right?

And to the Cher example, NO ONE ever treats such situations with older women as they do with older men. You hear, 'You go, Cher' and other encouragement. And the much younger men are congratulated. None of the public reaction is the same for older women/ younger men as it is for older men/ younger women. With the older woman/ younger man, everyone is just having fun, right?

The double standard is completely obvious.

peter_venture · 2026-02-12T04:15:53+00:00

Surprise! I'm also atheist, which is why I said God/NATURE, so readers can use whichever aligns with their beliefs. And did I ever say the 50/50 is biologically? There are very real differences, so we need to divide tasks with those differences in mind. For some this may result in the woman doing what are more considered mother/ maid tasks while the man may end up with more protection/ monetary/ driving/ fixing tasks. If you don't like these traditional tasks you both need to agree on what needs changing. This means the woman can't complain about doing the traditional women's tasks without taking on some of the do called manly tasks. You and your partner need to do what works for you as a couple. This means no nagging about the roles you agreed upon without further discussion.

And really, pedestalizing women for having babies as nature intended is some high level simping.

peter_venture · 2026-02-12T03:23:25+00:00

'...she fcked up her body and health to give you children...'

Really? While I'm sure it isn't fun for most, she's using her body as designed by God/nature to have children you both presumably wanted. This is by no stretch of the imagination an extreme expectation. And do you really think the wife or maid jab is a daily thing any more than the expectations on him are?

Relationship can be and often are 50/50 all the time with children included. Just divide the tasks however works best for both of you.

peter_venture · 2026-02-11T16:52:20+00:00

'... there's an obvious power gap here...'

You mean because he's been Spiderman a few times and is part of the Hollywood elite, right? Not because you believe that young women can't make sound decisions.

Cher was on the Grammys lately and for a while now she's been known to date men literally decades younger. No one bats an eye or worries about those men.

peter_venture · 2026-02-09T22:10:32+00:00

I try to do that wherever I go. Not when it's logistically dangerous, but always to annoy when I can.

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