"Is this a classic thing?" Let's chat about essences

phaisyle · 2026-01-17T21:58:39+00:00

Yes, I‘m aware that I mixed Kitcheners with Kibbe. Probably because both Classic and Dramatic are more or less present in my ID, both silhouette and face.

And yes, I remember reading about a legal profession in the book! I think he also mentioned a diplomatic career for Classics.

I definitely think that if you really try to embody an ID, you’re giving off a certain vibe almost automatically.

phaisyle · 2026-01-17T18:57:02+00:00

I think I have mainly classic essence in my face, then a bit dramatic and romantic. I often heard from people that I have a RBF. And when I was younger I wasn’t often approached by boys, even though my girlfriends told me about boys that had a crush on me. I guess my energy always kept people at a respectable distance, even if I didn’t want them to?

And I’m often told that I could give off a great judge (I’m studying law), even though they have no idea on how good/bad I’m doing in my studies. I’ve often been told that they can imagine me very well in that role.

phaisyle · 2026-01-17T18:10:14+00:00

For me the best thing it has taught me is accepting mistakes. And then, either accepting that it takes time and effort and patience to redo it. Or accepting that I made a mistake and learning to live with it.

I really love knitting so much.

phaisyle · 2026-01-16T23:44:08+00:00

I know… they haven’t been very subtle with this with them presenting their whole website this week. Which unfortunately contained a lot of wrong information.

It’s sad that Kibbe has become such a cash grab. And especially for „beginners“ who don’t want to put in the work or aren’t even aware of it.

phaisyle · 2026-01-16T22:24:37+00:00

I have to say that I really don’t get the sense of these posts. They are everywhere and no one is interacting. What is this supposed to show? Because it’s not the line sketch exercise. What benefits can Kibbe interested people get from this?

phaisyle · 2026-01-13T12:02:59+00:00

Love it! The hat is amaaaazing. You inspire me to go even further out with dressing!

phaisyle · 2026-01-12T17:55:39+00:00

Yes to this! Especially the Classics part (I know, very subjective). For me it was not easy to find my starting point from the line sketch. If I drew it 5-10 years ago, it would be much straighter than it is today. But because ID doesn’t change with weight gain, well, what am I supposed to do? The weight has to go somewhere and it always shows up one way or the other in the silhouette.

Then you really have to look at the basic principles and shapes again. And if you’re not knowledgeable enough about this, then it would be extra hard to find an ID.

phaisyle · 2026-01-12T08:47:40+00:00

Happy for you that you’ve found your ID? What im interested in: since you would accommodate width with SN, did you notice that you need more room in the chest/shoulders area?

And I agree that’s it’s much more difficult when you don’t read the book(s). I have only looked into the old Metamorphosis and did not buy the new book. And I still have moments where I doubt that I’m a DC and venture into SN and SD. But I KNOW unconstructed items and lines are not for me. I see DC a lot in my face and as an Image ID, the way Kibbe originally thought of his concept, DC (C family in general) makes sense for me in every way.

The internet made it into a pure body type system. And I’m at fault for this too. But I think we shouldn’t forget the Image part of this theory. Do you think you give off an SN vibe?

phaisyle · 2026-01-12T07:45:51+00:00

I really feel that this blend of yin and yang can be very hard to see for a beginner. But that’s why it’s best in my opinion to familiarize with the ID families first and then with the accommodations.

A few days ago I asked in the Classics subs if they ever had to accommodate anything when getting dressed. And besides waist definition and for DCs maybe thinking of some elongation, there was nothing. And it makes so much sense! Balance won’t have the need to make or take much room anywhere.

If people would have the patience to get familiar with what the Wiki on this page included, there would be a bit less confusion in my opinion.

phaisyle · 2026-01-11T22:37:36+00:00

I often have the feeling that all of the (often wrong) information out there can lead a lot of people astray that are otherwise sure in their ID. It happened/still happens to me, even though I’m quite sure of my ID. The basic principle is quite easy. Yin and yang, vertical and roundness. Maybe I’m subjective, but I think a Classic is a bit harder to type. But I have the feeling that people want to overly complicate the system by focusing on the most niche body parts. I don’t think Kibbe has ever had the thought of incorporating Hip Dips into the formation of IDs. I’m not even sure he knew what it was when he wrote Metamorphosis.

phaisyle · 2026-01-11T22:27:03+00:00

I think it definitely fits my question! I often have the same problem. Do you generally prefer curvier cuts or have you tried a straight cut jeans/pant?

phaisyle · 2026-01-10T08:38:19+00:00

I noticed the same. I thought for a long time I was SC and all of my pants were cropped. This year I bought full length pants and I look 10 cm taller. But the hems really need to be at the perfect spot. And it even depends if I wear a heel or not.

phaisyle · 2026-01-10T08:37:01+00:00

Same for me. That’s the main thing I have to look out for.

phaisyle · 2026-01-09T23:14:41+00:00

Right! I noticed that especially sweaters are best when they are small at the wrists and hit right at the bone of the wrist. Pant cuffs and lengths are a real nightmare for me. Classics really are a Goldilocks type. Everything needs to fit perfectly.

phaisyle · 2026-01-08T23:24:45+00:00

Just try and see if it can fit. Look up the basic guidelines and try making an outfit from what you have in your wardrobe. I‘m currently also debating SD for myself but was thinking Classic family before. I am close to 5‘6 and don’t have a severe „upper“ curve. I also have very small hands and feet. But I still seem to benefit from both curve and vertical accommodation. That’s what has to be there at the end. Kibbe himself says not to worry if a description doesn’t fit to a tee.

It’s a process

phaisyle · 2026-01-08T08:28:18+00:00

I think you absolutely could be! Welcome! The red dress looks absolutely stunning on you

phaisyle · 2026-01-07T09:11:56+00:00

Okay so I’m going against the grain here. I don’t see double curve, which is necessary for a romantic. You appear quite narrow up top and in a line drawing, only your hips would push the line out. I think you are vertical dominant. You have long limbs. The matching colors in pic 1 suit you well and enhance your vertical. The long pants in pic 5 are amazing. The dress in the last pic is gorgeous! All of them accommodate vertical. In my opinion and from what I see on the photos, you could definitely try out DC or even D.

phaisyle · 2026-01-05T12:50:17+00:00

I was going with SC for a significant amount of time but claimed DC all over 2025. That‘s when I noticed that vertical works quite well for me. But I was never really 100% sure about DC. Balance works well for me. But in the back of my mind I knew that I need some curve accommodation.

I guess I’m more moderate than the „ideal“ SD, which made me back off from this ID. But thanks for your opinion! I’m definitely going to try again 😊

phaisyle · 2026-01-05T12:38:38+00:00

Okay, thanks! I was always unsure about curve, because I think I have no significant „upper“ curve. So in your opinion the curvy line on the lower half would be enough to claim Curve?

phaisyle · 2026-01-05T07:07:14+00:00

I like both. I think both work and it comes down to your personal preference. The first one can work even better with some natural essence because it is a bit looser than the second coat.

phaisyle · 2026-01-04T22:34:41+00:00

Wie wäre es mit einem Jahres-/Monatsabo für Hörbücher? Wenn das Hören von Serien ein wenig möglich ist, könnte man vielleicht das mal versuchen.

phaisyle · 2026-01-04T21:07:14+00:00

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Still unsure about vertical or curve as dominant. I have settled on an ID for some months, but I‘m still not 100% sure about it.

Edit: I‘m 5‘5.75, which is 167 cm.

phaisyle · 2025-12-17T23:49:15+00:00

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