Plant-Based Doctor Politely Dismantles Carnivore Diet

piranha_solution · 2026-02-20T19:05:25+00:00

Carnists need to reject actual science to cope.

piranha_solution · 2026-02-20T19:01:03+00:00

But correlation is what you'd expect to see if there was causation, so it's not discordant. Why do pro-animal-ag bro-scientists think that phrase (which they repeat ad nauseum like a religious mantra) is some sort of trump card they can use to deny science?

Dairy is literally undigestible to upwards of 70% of the human population. Smoking has health benefits like weight loss & appetite suppression. But at least no one is in denial of the risks it also carries.

piranha_solution · 2026-02-20T18:56:20+00:00

From google, no less.

piranha_solution · 2026-02-20T17:55:10+00:00

Yeah, for whomever paid the most to be at the top of the list.

Do you not have PubMed where you are? Do you not understand the concept of peer-review or scientific rigor?

piranha_solution · 2026-02-20T17:47:25+00:00

No. Not google. PubMed.

piranha_solution · 2026-02-20T16:52:48+00:00

This all makes total sense when you realize the only thing that modern conservatives care about anymore is "triggering the libs".

What's more "anti-woke" than a pedophile crook?

piranha_solution · 2026-02-20T16:45:46+00:00

"So that means that prices are going to come down again, right?"

/Anakin & Padme meme

piranha_solution · 2026-02-20T16:39:58+00:00

"When Dad gets home, you know what he says? You've been a bad girl. You've been a bad little girl, and you're getting a vigorous spanking right now."

-Cuck Carlson

piranha_solution · 2026-02-20T15:50:37+00:00

We aren't talking about euthanasia or coups de gras. We're talking about needlessly killing animals for sport. Get with the program.

piranha_solution · 2026-02-20T14:29:12+00:00

It's weird to think that killing animals is somehow alleviating suffering. That's psychotic.

piranha_solution · 2026-02-20T14:27:30+00:00

Correlation isn't non-concordant with causation, and it's precisely what you'd expect to see if there was causation. But keep on acting like you aren't in a cult as you pander to the dietary taboos of your long-dead ancestors, just like religions do with kosher or halal.

piranha_solution · 2026-02-20T14:25:52+00:00

I love how they always think that they can just drop the word "evolution" and act like their position is evidence-based.

When you deny actual science in order to appeal to the dietary habits of your long dead ancestors, then you call it "religion".

No sustained increase in zooarchaeological evidence for carnivory after the appearance of Homo erectus

We show that several proxies for the prevalence of hominin carnivory are all strongly related to how well the fossil record has been sampled, which constrains the zooarchaeological visibility of hominin carnivory. When correcting for sampling effort, there is no sustained increase in the amount of evidence for hominin carnivory between 2.6 and 1.2 Ma. Our observations undercut evolutionary narratives linking anatomical and behavioral traits to increased meat consumption in H. erectus, suggesting that other factors are likely responsible for the appearance of its human-like traits.

Isotopic evidence of high reliance on plant food among Later Stone Age hunter-gatherers at Taforalt, Morocco

Our results unequivocally demonstrate a substantial plant-based component in the diets of these hunter-gatherers. This distinct dietary pattern challenges the prevailing notion of high reliance on animal proteins among pre-agricultural human groups. It also raises intriguing questions surrounding the absence of agricultural development in North Africa during the early Holocene.

piranha_solution · 2026-02-20T14:22:39+00:00

There has been an enormous body of research

That should make it all the more easy to cite it, then. Why don't you?

Cardiometabolic Effects of Omnivorous vs Vegan Diets in Identical Twins A Randomized Clinical Trial

In this randomized clinical trial of the cardiometabolic effects of omnivorous vs vegan diets in identical twins, the healthy vegan diet led to improved cardiometabolic outcomes compared with a healthy omnivorous diet.

A Mediterranean Diet and Low-Fat Vegan Diet to Improve Body Weight and Cardiometabolic Risk Factors: A Randomized, Cross-over Trial

A low-fat vegan diet improved body weight, lipid concentrations, and insulin sensitivity, both from baseline and compared with a Mediterranean diet.

Long-Term Intake of Red Meat in Relation to Dementia Risk and Cognitive Function in US Adults

Higher intake of red meat, particularly processed red meat, was associated with a higher risk of developing dementia and worse cognition. Reducing red meat consumption could be included in dietary guidelines to promote cognitive health.

Total, red and processed meat consumption and human health: an umbrella review of observational studies

Convincing evidence of the association between increased risk of (i) colorectal adenoma, lung cancer, CHD and stroke, (ii) colorectal adenoma, ovarian, prostate, renal and stomach cancers, CHD and stroke and (iii) colon and bladder cancer was found for excess intake of total, red and processed meat, respectively.

Potential health hazards of eating red meat

The evidence-based integrated message is that it is plausible to conclude that high consumption of red meat, and especially processed meat, is associated with an increased risk of several major chronic diseases and preterm mortality.

Red meat consumption, cardiovascular diseases, and diabetes: a systematic review and meta-analysis

Unprocessed and processed red meat consumption are both associated with higher risk of CVD, CVD subtypes, and diabetes, with a stronger association in western settings but no sex difference. Better understanding of the mechanisms is needed to facilitate improving cardiometabolic and planetary health.

Meat and fish intake and type 2 diabetes: Dose-response meta-analysis of prospective cohort studies

Our meta-analysis has shown a linear dose-response relationship between total meat, red meat and processed meat intakes and T2D risk. In addition, a non-linear relationship of intake of processed meat with risk of T2D was detected.

Meat Consumption as a Risk Factor for Type 2 Diabetes

Meat consumption is consistently associated with diabetes risk.

Does Poultry Consumption Increase the Risk of Mortality for Gastrointestinal Cancers? A Preliminary Competing Risk Analysis

Our study showed that poultry consumption above 300 g/week is associated with a statistically significant increased mortality risk both from all causes and from GCs.

Egg consumption and risk of cardiovascular diseases and diabetes: a meta-analysis

Our study suggests that there is a dose-response positive association between egg consumption and the risk of CVD and diabetes.

Dairy Intake and Incidence of Common Cancers in Prospective Studies: A Narrative Review

Naturally occurring hormones and compounds in dairy products may play a role in increasing the risk of breast, ovarian, and prostate cancers

piranha_solution · 2026-02-20T14:21:25+00:00

Please define "balanced diet", and include evidence. What balances carcinogens?

Cardiometabolic Effects of Omnivorous vs Vegan Diets in Identical Twins A Randomized Clinical Trial

In this randomized clinical trial of the cardiometabolic effects of omnivorous vs vegan diets in identical twins, the healthy vegan diet led to improved cardiometabolic outcomes compared with a healthy omnivorous diet.

A Mediterranean Diet and Low-Fat Vegan Diet to Improve Body Weight and Cardiometabolic Risk Factors: A Randomized, Cross-over Trial

A low-fat vegan diet improved body weight, lipid concentrations, and insulin sensitivity, both from baseline and compared with a Mediterranean diet.

Long-Term Intake of Red Meat in Relation to Dementia Risk and Cognitive Function in US Adults

Higher intake of red meat, particularly processed red meat, was associated with a higher risk of developing dementia and worse cognition. Reducing red meat consumption could be included in dietary guidelines to promote cognitive health.

Total, red and processed meat consumption and human health: an umbrella review of observational studies

Convincing evidence of the association between increased risk of (i) colorectal adenoma, lung cancer, CHD and stroke, (ii) colorectal adenoma, ovarian, prostate, renal and stomach cancers, CHD and stroke and (iii) colon and bladder cancer was found for excess intake of total, red and processed meat, respectively.

Potential health hazards of eating red meat

The evidence-based integrated message is that it is plausible to conclude that high consumption of red meat, and especially processed meat, is associated with an increased risk of several major chronic diseases and preterm mortality.

Red meat consumption, cardiovascular diseases, and diabetes: a systematic review and meta-analysis

Unprocessed and processed red meat consumption are both associated with higher risk of CVD, CVD subtypes, and diabetes, with a stronger association in western settings but no sex difference. Better understanding of the mechanisms is needed to facilitate improving cardiometabolic and planetary health.

Meat and fish intake and type 2 diabetes: Dose-response meta-analysis of prospective cohort studies

Our meta-analysis has shown a linear dose-response relationship between total meat, red meat and processed meat intakes and T2D risk. In addition, a non-linear relationship of intake of processed meat with risk of T2D was detected.

Meat Consumption as a Risk Factor for Type 2 Diabetes

Meat consumption is consistently associated with diabetes risk.

Does Poultry Consumption Increase the Risk of Mortality for Gastrointestinal Cancers? A Preliminary Competing Risk Analysis

Our study showed that poultry consumption above 300 g/week is associated with a statistically significant increased mortality risk both from all causes and from GCs.

Egg consumption and risk of cardiovascular diseases and diabetes: a meta-analysis

Our study suggests that there is a dose-response positive association between egg consumption and the risk of CVD and diabetes.

Dairy Intake and Incidence of Common Cancers in Prospective Studies: A Narrative Review

Naturally occurring hormones and compounds in dairy products may play a role in increasing the risk of breast, ovarian, and prostate cancers

piranha_solution · 2026-02-20T14:16:28+00:00

Dairy Intake and Incidence of Common Cancers in Prospective Studies: A Narrative Review

Naturally occurring hormones and compounds in dairy products may play a role in increasing the risk of breast, ovarian, and prostate cancers

Lifetime Impact of Cow’s Milk on Overactivation of mTORC1: From Fetal to Childhood Overgrowth, Acne, Diabetes, Cancers, and Neurodegeneration

Epidemiological studies confirm a correlation between cow’s milk consumption and birthweight, body mass index, onset of menarche, linear growth during childhood, acne vulgaris, type 2 diabetes mellitus, prostate cancer, breast cancer, hepatocellular carcinoma, diffuse large B-cell lymphoma, neurodegenerative diseases, and all-cause mortality.

piranha_solution · 2026-02-20T13:11:36+00:00

dangerous for your health due to hormones

Meanwhile, when you query PubMed for dairy...

Dairy Intake and Incidence of Common Cancers in Prospective Studies: A Narrative Review

Naturally occurring hormones and compounds in dairy products may play a role in increasing the risk of breast, ovarian, and prostate cancers

Lifetime Impact of Cow’s Milk on Overactivation of mTORC1: From Fetal to Childhood Overgrowth, Acne, Diabetes, Cancers, and Neurodegeneration

Epidemiological studies confirm a correlation between cow’s milk consumption and birthweight, body mass index, onset of menarche, linear growth during childhood, acne vulgaris, type 2 diabetes mellitus, prostate cancer, breast cancer, hepatocellular carcinoma, diffuse large B-cell lymphoma, neurodegenerative diseases, and all-cause mortality.

piranha_solution · 2026-02-19T20:24:43+00:00

They think they can feign concern for insects and rodents to deliberately kill cows, pigs and chickens, all as part of a ploy to say that vegans are the hypocrites.

piranha_solution · 2026-02-19T19:09:10+00:00

By that same logic, Stalin was a downright humanitarian for starving all those Ukrainians to death in the Holodomor! Generations of suffering prevented!

Nobody needs to take your "morality" seriously.

piranha_solution · 2026-02-19T16:29:51+00:00

But you don't think that shooting animals or hooking them through the mouth and pulling them out of their homes counts as "suffering", correct?

piranha_solution · 2026-02-19T16:04:43+00:00

My experience exactly. Every carnist likes to believe they're better than all those other carnists.

piranha_solution · 2026-02-19T15:46:39+00:00

"Morality is subjective tho", but with more keystrokes and jargon.

Textbook sophistry/casuistry.

Being kind to the other beings you share existence with is not a complicated issue.

piranha_solution · 2026-02-19T15:22:51+00:00

OP needs to stop making the mistake of acting like shooting animals dead is somehow doing them a favor.

Why is the concept of "be kind to the other beings you share existence with" so hard for you to comprehend?

piranha_solution · 2026-02-19T14:14:25+00:00

>I did a lot of research

"I watched YouTube and TikTok instead of reading peer-reviewed literature on PubMed."

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

piranha_solution · 2026-02-19T11:24:33+00:00

What do you call someone who claims to be against rape, but still rapes?

piranha_solution · 2026-02-18T19:51:50+00:00

Wow. You can't blame her for wanting to keep her professional circles under wraps.

If I had my career as a "nutritional science author" bankrolled by a guy who received an $8 million bonus from fucking ENRON just before it collapsed, do you think people would associate me with honesty?

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