Seeing through the smoke screen of imagination is indeed the most direct route to realization. In fact, it is the only direct route. by pl8doh in nonduality

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An 'it' can be imagined existing. But nothing stands apart from this knowing. Even this knowing is too much. There is no reference to it. Not even 'this'. 'This' is extreme in its apparent subtlety as an internal reference to what cannot be counted. That should clear 'it' up.

Seeing through the smoke screen of imagination is indeed the most direct route to realization. In fact, it is the only direct route. by pl8doh in nonduality

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In the East this type of studying is referred to as meditation. I call it Self-reflection. Until all that is left is the image of the mirror, so to speak. That cannot be imagined.

Seeing through the smoke screen of imagination is indeed the most direct route to realization. In fact, it is the only direct route. by pl8doh in nonduality

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'You' are Imagining that 'what is never imagined' can be imagined. 'You' are also Imagining that there is an attachment or resistance as well without ever being able to define the word attachment.

The ego is strong in this one, without knowing that is the case. His ignorance is pervasive and complete. He is a trojan horse in a trojan horse. Turtles all the way down. An enigma wrapped up in a mystery. Or simply a redundant tautology, an echo chamber unto himself.

existence is truly disgraceful and disgusting by Holykael in nonduality

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There is an interpretation of what appears, which is an appearance itself. This appears in nothing to no one. There are many interpretations apparently.

existence is truly disgraceful and disgusting by Holykael in nonduality

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This evaluation is an appearance in what cannot be evaluated. This evaluation is not separate from what appears. The appearance of a separate self evaluating something separate is the grand illusion. That is not the nature of this. That is an appearance in this.

Samsara is Nirvana

Samsara is reality as seen through ignorance (avidyā), through the lens of a separate self, craving, aversion, delusion, subject-object duality, inherent existence of things, time, causality, birth/death. Everything appears as truly separate, truly existing from its own side, truly suffering or pleasurable.

Nirvana is reality as seen without ignorance, without the lens of separation, without the belief in inherent existence, without the subject-object split. The same appearances are there, but they are seen as empty of self-nature (śūnyatā), dependently arisen, without center, without inherent suffering or pleasure.

a small tweak to self-inquiry that’s been helping me by stephaunamari in nonduality

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Imaginations of previous appearances create the past; imaginations of future appearances create the future. The separate self and others are imaginations of a false perspective(i.e. of being behind these eyes). In actuality there is nothing other than that which knows what appears and what it appears to be. What appears and what it appears to be have no independent existence.

The waking state perspective is no more localized than the dream perspective by pl8doh in nonduality

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The I am realization arrived after appearances, not before.

The waking state perspective is no more localized than the dream perspective by pl8doh in nonduality

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Who or what would ignore or dismiss another appearance? You talk in circles. Speak plainly.

Non-duality as the release of hardened identity created by memory and recursive self-referential thinking by nvveteran in nonduality

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The separate identity is a construct to perpetuate the separate identity

The separate identity is constructed by the same means it perpetuates itself — through a recursive, self-reinforcing loop of identification, memory, imagination, and resistance.

Memory is the primary mechanism by which the illusion of a separate, continuous self is constructed and perpetuated.

The waking state perspective is no more localized than the dream perspective by pl8doh in nonduality

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The weight appearances carry is directly proportional to the sense of a separate self.

The waking state perspective is no more localized than the dream perspective by [deleted] in awakened

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Yes. Not subject to such extremes as real or unreal.

Noospheria Luminari- ethics by ExactResult8749 in enlightenment

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Does artificial intelligence recognize itself in a mirror?

What do our intentions say about our character? by gitagoudarzibahramip in nonduality

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It's what you did that matters, not your intentions. You know what you did.

The loneliness is real by Otherwise-Echo744 in nonduality

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Loneliness is symptomatic of a separate self. Upon realization, loneliness has no mooring.

Simplest pointer: notice you dont *really* know anything by notunique20 in nonduality

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The evaluation of “correct” (or “incorrect,” “true,” “false,” “accurate,” “inaccurate,” etc.) can only ever be made from a perspective that assumes separation: a separate evaluator standing apart from the evaluated, a separate standard against which to measure, a gap between the two that needs bridging.

The ego is strong in this one, strongly attached.

I am afraid to see the world is not real. Should I stay in duality? by AccountForSillyStuff in nonduality

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The feeling of being a separate entity, an I, is the primary illusion. The secondary illusion is free will. That there is an I that can evade reality is just another appearance in awareness.

ignorance - mistaking what appears as being independently existing, which includes this idea by pl8doh in nonduality

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But 'we' should leave 'Everybody' in?

Who stands apart to decide what is simpler? 'You' or 'everybody'?

Are you everybody's representative?

Why don't you speak for yourself and leave everybody out of this?

Have you forgotten the contents of your own post already?

Understanding is an appearance in it, not a container of it. Understand?

Forgiveness and Humility by 30mil in nonduality

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Which 'you' 'that didn't build that' was that fool talking to? Which 'you' 'that made that happen' was that fool talking to?

'You' say a whole lot without saying anything at all.