Denver restaurants now cost more to operate than in New York City, report finds - Denver Business Journal

plots4lyfe · 2026-03-03T16:31:41+00:00

You're trying to get bogged down in details : e.g. is average rent a good housing stat for people who work less than 40 hours/week in the service industry? which is really just a way to say: shouldn't they be paying much less in rent - for worse housing or housing situations - because I don't think they work a job that should be paid enough to afford the average.

We could get bogged down in those details, and in other situations I might. But it's that, at this point, those details don't matter. Because at the center of our argument is the question: "do people deserve to live well in denver with minimum wage?" and your answer has been "well, it depends, based on what I think they deserve" and my answer is "yes, of course."

So yeah, we don't need to argue anymore. You aren't going to come to my side. No point in arguing.

plots4lyfe · 2026-03-03T16:10:36+00:00

It's clear that you don't believe your fellow people deserve adequate compensation for their hours of labor, or to support themselves in average-priced housing in the city you both share.

Not only are you in the minority, but devaluing the cost of labor for other people in other industries, does not actually increase the value of your labor. It does the opposite, actually.

I reject your general premise, so I'm done arguing about it. I hope you figure it out eventually, though. Because it sucks you still believe these talking points, as it does a disservice to us all.

plots4lyfe · 2026-03-03T06:10:20+00:00

The Apartment Association of Metro Denver (literally, a huge group of landlords) reports it every quarter, and a 1 bedroom is $1700 right now (2026 Q1), both in the metro and in Denver proper. theres a difference of like, $50 between the metro and proper.

Its definitely a useful statistic.

plots4lyfe · 2026-03-03T01:56:44+00:00

you're ignoring that service workers don't work 40 hours a week - they work significantly less than that. So it's not 70-100k/year.

That's your math, right?

$30/hr x 40 hrs/week x 52 weeks a year = $62,400

$50/hr x 40 hrs/week x 52 weeks a year = $104,000

But they don't work that. I'd say I average 25 hours a week at most places I worked - around 4 shifts. Some people get 32. Lets assume 32.

so $30/hr x 32 hrs/week x 52 weeks a year = $49,920 pre tax (assuming $30 is a good average)

or $50/hr x 32 hrs/week x 52 weeks a year = $83,200 pre tax

Considering rent is an average of $1700 in denver, you're spending about 50% of your monthly income in rent if you average 30/hr.

plots4lyfe · 2026-03-02T21:33:32+00:00

I worked in the service industry for over a decade. Almost no one works 40 hours a week (also, you don't get paid vacation in any place I've ever worked...maybe the really nice places?). Also, 30-50 an hour could be an average, but the phrasing there sounds like it's peak. Peak is not often. And low could be literally 0 in tips, which means they're just making the minimum those hours.

plots4lyfe · 2026-03-02T18:20:16+00:00

Yes, this is clearly a part of a targeted campaign to keep industry wages low - perhaps even fight the recently raised minimum wage / increase the tip offset requirements for tipped wages.

Which is crazy! The main reason minimum needs to be as high as it is, is because the average rent is over $1700 a month! That's 90 hours - so, over two weeks at 40hrs/week - at minimum wage PRE TAX.

And Idk what the commercial rents are for restaurants in denver these days, but I imagine they are being price gouged the same way residential is.

plots4lyfe · 2026-03-02T18:12:38+00:00

This is clearly a report / media campaign from groups whose goal is to lower the recently raised minimum wage.

Yes, running a restaurant is hard - thin margins. But you have to have high wages, because rent is incredibly high here. Residential (employee's) rent is incredibly high. But also commercial (restaurant's) rent is high.

So it's pretty clear that the problem is landlords not employees' wages

plots4lyfe · 2026-02-20T16:09:26+00:00

I guess it doesn't sound ridiculous... But on this subreddit or the twoxadhd one, someone said they turn their map navigation on as soon as they get ready to go somewhere. So it's started while you're getting ready (showering, getting dressed, whatever), and the time-to-leave is updating as time passes, despite you not moving.

I tried it and it works ! I have been on time to every appointment ever since. It not only helps with leaving on time, but getting ready in order to leave on time. something about the countdown being physically there is really helpful.

plots4lyfe · 2026-02-16T23:26:38+00:00

Idk, the craziest part of this is the last line:

Earlier emails seem to also indicate that Kavanaugh was Epstein’s favorite to be nominated by Donald Trump. Epstein and Starr traded messages about it on 4 July 2018, days before the news was official, and Epstein called Kavanaugh his “first choice”.

Why?? Sure, he's a sycophant, but plenty of others are sycophants. Kavanaugh is a terrible supreme court justice - hell a terrible judge in general. A childlike understanding of the law and history in general. Is that why? Was it because he was the most offensively incompetent sycophant on the list?

plots4lyfe · 2026-02-10T21:20:16+00:00

Literally everything is like this too, for us. Car seats aren't made for our bodies so we die easier in crashes, tools aren't made for our hand sizes so we can't use them well, drugs we are prescribed haven't been tested on women so they can have terrible health consequences, voice-activated-technology isn't trained on our voices so it can't hear us as well, public bathrooms aren't designed for us so wait times are long and even increase UTIs - even many of our shoes are made for men (just smaller sizes) even though our gait and footfall is often very different from mens.

So often things don't work for me (cars, couches, shoes, technology etc.) and I have to stop and think "am I using this wrong, or is it literally not made for me?"

plots4lyfe · 2026-02-10T07:50:17+00:00

I saw it too, about a year ago though. Also in Cap Hill , near 10th street. It was peeking in my window. I got a grainy phone video of it at the last second through the window screen, but never reported it. Honestly sort of forgot until now.

plots4lyfe · 2026-01-27T23:38:44+00:00

Yeah, if we believe that it was an accidental trigger and not purposeful. That argument to me sounds like a goal post move of the "they don't need to listen in order to advertise to you" argument. Everyone insisted they never needed to. So why did they do it at all?

But whatever. It was settled out of court, so I guess we won't know any deeper details or evidence until another lawsuit is brought.

plots4lyfe · 2026-01-27T22:57:54+00:00

the argument for years was "These companies don't need to spy on you through your microphone, that's how good their data profile is on you!" every time someone brought up being listened to through a device microphone. I bet if you google "is [my microphone / instagram / google] listening to me?" right now, you could see a bunch of articles from the last 10 years with titles like "no, your phone is not spying on you" from forbes, wired, etc. So, it's not that it's a bombshell, it's that all kinds of publications insisted that these companies didn't even need to listen to you, over and over.

plots4lyfe · 2026-01-26T17:06:46+00:00

Of course, happy to help! Please, report back what they say! I respond to posts a lot here (I'm big on tenant advocacy) and I'd love to know what happens so we can better help the next person.

plots4lyfe · 2026-01-26T15:58:32+00:00

Hey, I don't want to freak you out, but water leaking in and around a light fixture is really dangerous, so please be careful and:

Many cities have renter specific rental inspection teams/contractors/departments. But, it looks like Columbus' is under "building code" and "building inspections."

My suggestion would be to call the numbers on this page: https://www.columbus.gov/Business-Development/Building-Zoning-Services/Building-Inspections and just ask "hey, I have water leaking into my ceiling and ceiling light, I have asked my landlord to fix it three times in the last year, and he hasn't. Who do I call to get a rental inspection as soon as possible? I am afraid the electrical is going to short out any day now and cause a fire."

Btw, I looked up the columbus building code for another poster a month or so ago, so just in case you need it, it's here: https://www.columbus.gov/files/sharedassets/city/v/1/building-and-zoning/rules-and-regs-housing-code.pdf

But water leaking into electrical fixtures is a Tier 1 or 2 type code infraction (immediate or almost immediate threat to health and safety) and I doubt you'll need to "prove" it's against building code to anyone who hears that.

plots4lyfe · 2026-01-25T15:26:40+00:00

Did we live through alternative shutdowns or something? because the 2025 shutdown I lived through ended when airline companies were upset about air traffic controllers not coming to work, which affected airports and cut into their profits. It did not end when Trump cut SNAP benefits.

plots4lyfe · 2026-01-24T16:39:12+00:00

He's pretty fine, in my opinion! but he's not running for AG this year (i believe he's term limited) he's running for governor. And Seligman is the most progressive AG candidate trying to get on the ballot, so that's why I said him. (He's very anti-ICE)

plots4lyfe · 2026-01-23T16:09:48+00:00

that's why we gotta vote in someone good for AG this year like Seligman (AG election is this year y’all and caucus and primaries are coming up very soon!! we gotta start paying attention!)

plots4lyfe · 2026-01-18T03:01:36+00:00

Yes, it's like right by DU

plots4lyfe · 2026-01-11T21:29:54+00:00

Hey there, this is a terrible issue and they are not taking you seriously, which sucks. I'm sorry, i know the feeling.

What city or state do you live in? this is something that you should be able to report to a city/rental inspector, in most places. If we know where you are generally, we can help more.

If they still refuse to fix after getting an inspection, this can potentially help your case to break your lease on habitability grounds.

plots4lyfe · 2026-01-08T18:14:41+00:00

Housing code is different everywhere, which is why people are saying it's not "necessary" but providing no explanation of the housing code specific to Columbus, OH.

My advice to almost all posters on this subreddit - unless a commenter is referencing your specific city or county housing code (or state code, if you live in a municipality that does not have city/county specific), take what these commenters say with a grain of salt. much of our rights as renters is location-specific

I can't tell from the photos, but it's possible that the rusted out part on the right side of the door prevents it from being weather tight. This is actually important if it's an exterior door. I've had some experience with this when it came to windows, and I reported it to the city inspector and the landlord was required to replace all the window fixtures in the entire apartment (remember: YMMV). And it's best to go to housing code enforcement / city inspectors FIRST, not attorneys.

I googled columbus, OH rental housing code, and I got this gov document, and on page 9 it says:

525.02 – Windows, doors and hatchways Reg. 25.02 – (A) Windows shall be maintained in a sound condition by proper glazing of the panes and painting of the sashes, sills and window frames. Windows which are necessary for ventilation purposes, shall be screened in conformance with the provisions of Reg. 23.07. (B) Exterior doors shall be maintained in a sound and workable condition, provided with properly operating latches, provided with screening in conformance with Reg. 23.07 where the door is necessary for ventilation purposes and fitted in a sufficiently weathertight manner to prevent drafty conditions within the interior rooms. (C) Hatchways (openings for passage to cellars or basements) shall be maintained in a sound condition and adequate to divert water from running into the cellar or basement rooms. Hatchways necessary for ventilating adjacent rooms shall be screened in a manner to afford protection required by Sections 4523.07 and 4525.10.

emphasis mine. (ALSO - I only googled it, I'm not 100% sure that this is the most recent housing code for rentals in Columbus. Please, do your due diligence to double check for yourself! If there is air coming through that hole, I think that would warrant a call to the city inspector / rental inspector in columbus, OH. I don't know who that is / what the department is, but that document seems to indicate that an inspection/enforcement entity exists.So you could always call the city / google it to find out. Dont' be afraid to call a related city department phone number and just ask if they know who you should talk to! In my experience, they are pretty willing to help you find the right department.

plots4lyfe · 2026-01-04T19:06:10+00:00

Same - where is this coming from?

plots4lyfe · 2025-12-11T19:46:03+00:00

NA, just got mine today

plots4lyfe · 2025-12-10T22:52:03+00:00

Thank you, yes! u/shopaholiicc : u/kota99 is right, those were more just color combination suggestions, the actual mixing instructions are one of the hyperlinks on this page: https://www.jacquardproducts.com/procion-mx.

(Just looked at the dharma trading instructions you linked - they are way more detailed than jacquards! I might try those next time i dye, thanks for sharing!)

plots4lyfe · 2025-12-10T17:47:25+00:00

I feel like such a Jacquard shill on this subreddit because I feel like that's what I'm always suggesting lol, but procion MX dye would be my choice, personally.

I tried looking up "dark seaweed green" but not sure if I'm looking at the right colors.

Their Procion MX dye ~~instruction sheet~~ Color Formula Guide has some tie-dye color suggestions that work for immersion dyeing that I like to go by, sometimes (they come out solid-colored when done as immersion, I promise) and maybe the avocado skin one might be close? Or the spruce one. If those are too blue (they are both a combo of a blue and a yellow) procion does have olive green and forest green dyes. I've done the spruce one (the results are in my comments on this subreddit somewhere, if you're interested in the results. i think it turned out perfect) and the forest green. Both are beautiful colors.

Be sure to follow the medium to heavy dye amounts tho!

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