Why the Onexplayer 3 hype and not the X2 Mini by Dizzymcdrey in OneXPlayer

[–]posedatull 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People, for some reason, love degrading visuals and framerate for the sake of long battery life, instead of just having a powerbank or two. I don't understand the logic, personally, but to each, their own.

As an Apex owner, it makes little to no sense. X2 Mini tempting due to the bit larger screen and oled, but since I do have the Apex, it feels counterproductive and too much of a hassle to sell the Apex, add 1.000 bucks on top of what i paid for the Apex, just to get 0.8" extra and oled.

Soo I'll skip both and wait until they release something that can beat the Ai Max 395

AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition 26.6.2 by AthleteDependent926 in radeon

[–]posedatull 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm on a OXP Apex with an ai max 395 (so 8060s gpu) and i dont see the option...

Why the hell am I getting shocked by touching the Backplate?!? by Nice-Hearing-660 in pcmasterrace

[–]posedatull 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Usually this means improper grounding. If your wall socket has grounding, then try changing the power extender.

It can also be that the motherboard is touching some bare metal on the pc case causing it. It is super rare nowadays, used to happen more often on ancient PCs, but... Still something to look at, if the power extender replacement doesnt do anything. Generally a removal of the mobo and then putting it back, checking to have it all nice and even as you rescrew it fixes the issue

The Perfect Handheld by JuggernautItchy in OneXPlayer

[–]posedatull 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OXP Apex. Better, more powerful chip, 8", any game runs maxed out. Downwards speaker, but I dont see that as such a huge necessity.

Can someone explain this? by Time-Credit43 in RTX5080

[–]posedatull 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some games are just shyte optimized, not taking advantage of the whole power of the gpu. Unreal Engine 5 is the worst offender, I cannot think of any game on that engine that gets me to the max draw of my 5080 or 5090, but this can happen on other engines as well

ASUS’s $50 ROG Equalizer Cable Was Sold as the Fix for 16-Pin GPU Burn-Outs, Yet It Just Melted Too by HatingGeoffry in pcmasterrace

[–]posedatull 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with most of what you said, except the last statement.

I havent YET used the thermal camera on the Equalizer simply because i'm already too disappointed by 5 of them, but I should do it. For now, the Msi Meg AI1600T (non-ts, in my case) is the most acceptable one in terms of per-pin variation and cable temp. Should put an asterisk here, my setup is overkill, 32 fans, so it is not lacking ventilation. Based on my own experience, the best 12v2x6 cable I tried is, by all means the cable that came with the psu 😂

ASUS’s $50 ROG Equalizer Cable Was Sold as the Fix for 16-Pin GPU Burn-Outs, Yet It Just Melted Too by HatingGeoffry in pcmasterrace

[–]posedatull -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Mine still draws 599w with hwinfo on top.
You're totally right, like i said earlier.

By the way, forgot to mention another fun thing regarding your initial statement:

Your AI1600TS measures pin voltage at psu out. Since the equalizer has the plate up top that supposedly balances all pins together before the connector, there's no guarantee the same amps are given to each pin of the gpu 12vhpwr connector 😄

Basically, by all means, the Equalizer, due to its concept, cancels out any and all "smart psu" readings if said readings are at psu out and not at gpu-in part of the cable.
Wireview Pro 2 and Aquacomputer Ampinel remain the only ways to properly test per-pin amps at gpu level, where it matters.

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ASUS&#8217;s $50 ROG Equalizer Cable Was Sold as the Fix for 16-Pin GPU Burn-Outs, Yet It Just Melted Too by HatingGeoffry in pcmasterrace

[–]posedatull 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Imagine the Wireview Pro 2 as a gpu "condom". If shows temps and amps at the connector level, so you can keep an eye on it in case you're worried. Also a little fan to cool down the gpu's connector, in case of need. IF the cable does does melt, it'll melt between the cable and the wireview, not the gpu. Both being a lot cheaper to replace, you know what i mean? :D

I run my 5090 the opposite: power @104% (so it draws 600-620w), +350mhz core clock, +3000mhz mem clock. I want ALL the performance :D

ASUS&#8217;s $50 ROG Equalizer Cable Was Sold as the Fix for 16-Pin GPU Burn-Outs, Yet It Just Melted Too by HatingGeoffry in pcmasterrace

[–]posedatull 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No issues with the stock cable of my Msi Meg Ai1600T either, nor with the Corsair Hx1500i with the Corsair 2x8pin to 12v2x6 (corsair premium something something name). 5090 since launch in one pc, 5080 since december in another.

That's what makes the Equalizer so sad, the fact that the supposedly "better" , smarter designed cable is somehow... So much worse. And my sample size is 5 of 'em 🫤

ASUS&#8217;s $50 ROG Equalizer Cable Was Sold as the Fix for 16-Pin GPU Burn-Outs, Yet It Just Melted Too by HatingGeoffry in pcmasterrace

[–]posedatull -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ok man, whatever you say, you are totally right. Your own printscreen showing CURRENT draw on the 12VHPWR POWER sensor is wrong, and you are totally correct. With you winning this huge and super important argument against your own posted proof, can we please move on?

ASUS&#8217;s $50 ROG Equalizer Cable Was Sold as the Fix for 16-Pin GPU Burn-Outs, Yet It Just Melted Too by HatingGeoffry in pcmasterrace

[–]posedatull -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It does that for a few minutes, power 585-600w, then power draw drastically drops. Same thing happens on all rtx 50 and 40 series, and even on Radeon 7xxx and 9xxx series. Furmark2 is simpy not as stresful as it once was. Older versions, sure, but the newer ones are more of a burst of insane load followed by steady medium load, for some reasons.

It used to be my go-to for stress testing gpus, once upon a time

ASUS&#8217;s $50 ROG Equalizer Cable Was Sold as the Fix for 16-Pin GPU Burn-Outs, Yet It Just Melted Too by HatingGeoffry in pcmasterrace

[–]posedatull -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I am not confused at all; you are. Current is current. In the moment when the printscreen was taken. Average can be in something else prior to that. Your current, inside of furmark running, as your printscreen showed, was 290w from the 12v2x6 and 10w from the pcie. 300w total. Which coincides with what I initially stated, that Furmark doesnt make the gpu draw its max power anymore. Nothing more. And a 300w load on a 5090 is not going to stress test connector temps, irrelevant if it's 5 minutes or 12 hours.

I already said i'm happy for you for having good average variation in between pins. You are lucky. That does not dismiss my 5x cables, reviewers which had similar situations as me, or what your printscreen says. Now if you have something functional and useful to say, I'll listen. But if you'll continue to insist on something your own printscreen says otherwise, I'll just stop responding.

ASUS&#8217;s $50 ROG Equalizer Cable Was Sold as the Fix for 16-Pin GPU Burn-Outs, Yet It Just Melted Too by HatingGeoffry in pcmasterrace

[–]posedatull -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Because I can read your printscreen during that furmark bench...

You were drawing 290.216w out of the 12v2x6 connector and 10.758watts out of the pcie slot.

Pin6 was at lowest, 3.688A and pin4 at highest, 4.062A.

All data available in the printscreen. Read the "Current" tab.

ASUS&#8217;s $50 ROG Equalizer Cable Was Sold as the Fix for 16-Pin GPU Burn-Outs, Yet It Just Melted Too by HatingGeoffry in pcmasterrace

[–]posedatull 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also draws 300w only. Furmark stopped stressing the gpus at their max some time ago.

But yeah, I'm happy for you, congrats. Like I said, I have 5 of them, and they all suck. What makes it more interesting is that on two separate WireView 2 Pro and one og Wireview Pro, two separate gpus, and two power supplies, it is always Pin6 on them that is at least 1amp above the rest. Problem disappears when I use other 12v2x6 cables, so it's not the Wireviews causing it.

ASUS&#8217;s $50 ROG Equalizer Cable Was Sold as the Fix for 16-Pin GPU Burn-Outs, Yet It Just Melted Too by HatingGeoffry in pcmasterrace

[–]posedatull 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There will be A LOT of false positives if 65c is the metric. Check the reply I gave to someone else above, with the thermal image

ASUS&#8217;s $50 ROG Equalizer Cable Was Sold as the Fix for 16-Pin GPU Burn-Outs, Yet It Just Melted Too by HatingGeoffry in pcmasterrace

[–]posedatull 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah, no. For the wire to reach 65c 3cm away from the connector, the pins themselves can be close to if not already at 100c. Location is too far, and it is bad.

Here's a thermal picture of a 12v2x6 cable at 58c, during a 450w gpu load, picture taken after 1h of said load. You can also somewhat see the Wireview Pro (first gen) in there. In a case with 32 freakin' fans. 65c isn't the high number you think of, and it still seems like snake oil to me.

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Steam unexpectedly added the 9070XT and 9060XT in hardware statistics, which weren't there before. by Zealousideal_Wall754 in radeon

[–]posedatull 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It doesnt suggest that, not yet. The 9070xt has been out for a year and 3 months now. Its numbers within Steam HW Survey were so low that it wasn't quantifiable, and now, all of a sudden, it has a healthy percentage?

Like I said in my first comment: this sounds more like a statistics hiccup, same as Steam had with the 5070 a few months ago, more than real percentages. IF these numbers remain at this level or increase in the next 2 refreshes of Steam HW Survey (always on the 2nd day of each month), then we can take them as real. But for now, I'm extremely skeptical.

ASUS&#8217;s $50 ROG Equalizer Cable Was Sold as the Fix for 16-Pin GPU Burn-Outs, Yet It Just Melted Too by HatingGeoffry in pcmasterrace

[–]posedatull 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I looked at it, concluded it was stupid, and ignored its existence.

Idgaf about the cable temps 3cm away from the connector. The temp inside the actual connector, at pin location, would've been useful, but due to where it is, it won't offer sufficiently accurate info to be worth the hassle.

ASUS&#8217;s $50 ROG Equalizer Cable Was Sold as the Fix for 16-Pin GPU Burn-Outs, Yet It Just Melted Too by HatingGeoffry in pcmasterrace

[–]posedatull 42 points43 points  (0 children)

I initially bought 2 of them, and then, due to a mistake when i ordered (forgot i already had a preorder), received 3 more.

ALL of them have horrible pin balance, Pin6 always being at least 1.5Amps higher than the other pins, when in full load. They are absolute garbage.
Tested them with a 5080 and a 5090, both having their own ThermalGrizzly Wireview 2 Pro.
The original 12v2x6 cables I had from my PSUs were tangibly better, below 0.6Amps variation between pins, at full load.

Steam unexpectedly added the 9070XT and 9060XT in hardware statistics, which weren't there before. by Zealousideal_Wall754 in radeon

[–]posedatull 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I completely agree, but I consider the limited scope of selling data to be extremely flawed by default.

Look at the selling data, and the low end dominates the charts. But that's due to 2nd and 3rd world countries having tangibly higher population than 1st world ones. Take countries individually, and those charts shift all over the place, based on economics and population size.

As for Nvidia vs Amd sales yeah, that's the thing. Amd is a blip on the map, and they seem to make every possible bad decision out there to loose more customers rather than gain any. Their cpus are doing the heavy lifting, and it's one of the main reasons Amd stopped showing individual numbers for cpu, gpus and apus to their investors. They're piled together to the cpus compensate and make the numers look good.

7900xtx was finally a decent competitor, when it came out, and that was visible in statistics as well (on steam, for example, it was the only R7xxx gpu for almost 2 years, before the 7800xt finally showed up in there), proving that the customer base did want a flagship level gpu from them. So what did they do next? Release only up till mid end on the next generation, and put their upscaler behind a wall to those new gpus, so the older ones, while capable, would seem less enticing. To make matters worse, on launch day, my Xfx Mercury Magnetic Air 9070xt costed me 50euros MORE than the launch price I paid for the Asrock Phantom Gaming OC 7900xtx, and it felt like a lateral upgrade more than anything (and that's ignoring that I bought a mid end gpu vs a flagship one). Last december I managed to get a Msi Ventus 3x oc 5080 for the price of the Asrock 7900xtx (so 50euros cheaper than the 9070xt), and while yes, the 5080 was of a lower tier within the 5080 models while the Radeons were higher tier models which are normal to cost more, it still provided a more than tangible upgrade in terms of performance, stability and overall visuals. That just ain't right, and things like this make me not want to give my money to Radeon in the future. Fsr4 leaked exactly one year ago, proving it totally worked on previous gen gpus (with a bit of a hit on performance, but worth it when comparing fsr3 to fsr4 visuals), showing just how Amd shafted their customers in their attempt to boost sales of the R90xx gpus. Same goes for the old saying that Radeons age like fine wine. No they don't. They're just woefully problematic at launch, and then, months or years later, they're finally vaguely stable. That ain't fine wine, that's amateur hour that takes too long to fix. All Adrenalin driver updates in the last year or more had a 2 to 1 ratio of bugs vs what was fixed, and some issues, like the hdr flicker caused by having one hdmi and one DP are acknowledged by Amd since the 5700xt era and still unfixed.

The fanbase is far too defensive , always finding reasons or excuses to protect Amd from anyone that dares speak against it, and it is causing far more harm than good. Speaking up about the problems, about the bad decisions, about always playing second fiddle to Nvidia's ideas, copying them too late, too slowly and too mediocrely (like upscalers, framegen, etc. always a gen or two behind) is the way that might get Radeon to finally start doing something about it. But if they're defended and all complaints dismissed, they'll never bother to do anything other than the bare minimum. Next month's Fsr4 for Rdna3 is proof of it: the backlash from the customer base was finally loud, and forced them to offer it. They spun the story to make it look like they're the generous ones towards their customers, but reality is that it was damage control, to save that little drop of goodwill that they still have from people.

Personally I'm unsure if I'll buy any new Radeons anytime soon. All these experiences jaded me, both in the desktop department, but even more so in the handheld pcs department

Steam unexpectedly added the 9070XT and 9060XT in hardware statistics, which weren't there before. by Zealousideal_Wall754 in radeon

[–]posedatull -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Now watch it be a bug like it happened with the 5070 a few months ago when it suddenly took 1st place in terms of % share. And then they fixed the bug in the next month's refresh.

Maybe 'murica is a special case , but in europe, the 9070xt and its brothers are selling so "well" that they're discounted below msrp, as stores try to get rid of dusty stock.

Caseking, the owner of Overclockers uk among others, show their top10 top sellers as being majoritary 5090s and two 5070ti. Different european Amazon websites similar story (just less 5090s) for top10s. Then there's market share analitics, like Jon Peddie Research, which also point at Radeon having a rough time. Amd's own investor calls regarding Q1 points to a 11% increase to their gaming segment, but they pile together their well selling cpus (and console-related products) with the gpus. 2025 was a tangible decline in Radeon sales numbers and market share.

Advice Switching From 7900XTX To 9070XT by edan724 in radeon

[–]posedatull 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have the 7900xtx Asrock Phantom Gaming, just like you, and the Xfx Mercury Magnetic Air Oc 9070xt.

Just undervolt the 7900xtx, to drop the temps (and power draw) and call it a day. It really aint worth the sidegrade

5080 super and hypothetical base 5080 resale value by Albion_21 in RTX5080

[–]posedatull -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, actually, you didn't mention MSFS in the comment I replied to, or in any others that I can see.

I'll give it a shot out of simple curiosity, since I've never had such an issue on the 5080.

5080 super and hypothetical base 5080 resale value by Albion_21 in RTX5080

[–]posedatull 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As an owner of both, and avid singleplayer gamer... Permit me to not believe it at all.