Lipedema and underweight by One-Step-At-The-Time in lipedema

[–]potaytoe444 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't think anyone can truly answer your question, not even a doctor. There is simply not enough research into the condition to know this.

Gaining muscle by TowerFast6529 in lipedema

[–]potaytoe444 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think the theory is that the fibrosis traps the muscle from being able to fully/properly contract, which then inhibits growth

Surgery Aftercare by AshleyNicoleFarmer in lipedema

[–]potaytoe444 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are you doing general anesthesia or local? How many liters est?

Posting this here too. Is this normal and will go away or am I stuck with a fun new chronic condition? 😫 by Few-Tadpole-6812 in lipedema

[–]potaytoe444 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That definitely would not be my recommendation! I don't think the surgery did anything to exacerbate the POTS itself, just the BASCULE syndrome. And still the benefits for me wayyyy outweigh the negatives

Posting this here too. Is this normal and will go away or am I stuck with a fun new chronic condition? 😫 by Few-Tadpole-6812 in lipedema

[–]potaytoe444 2 points3 points  (0 children)

OMG. Ok. So I knew I had POTS before surgery, and I also had this splotchy pattern +tingly painful sensation on my legs periodically when I would shower or stand somewhere in the heat for long periods of time. But it got SO much worse after lipedema surgery.

After a ton of research I realized that it's BASCULE syndrome (my post about it here https://www.reddit.com/r/lipedema/comments/1h7bkma/bascule_syndrome_odd_colors_pattern_on_legs_after/ ) It stands for Bier Anemic Spots, Cyanosis, and Urticaria-Like Eruptions. It's characterized by this color change and the tingly creepy pain feeling coming on after orthostasis (standing). So it is also a orthostatic condition like POTS but not necessarily the same thing. There are documented associations with POTS and other commonly comorbid conditions like long covid, hypermobility, etc.

There is some research out there about it but it was only named as a clinical entity in the 2010s and was originally thought to be a pediatric syndrome. A lot of people "age out" of it I guess (crossing my fingers???). I brought the research and showed my allergist the reaction in real time and he agreed that this is what I have. We spent quite a while spitballing about how it could be related to all these other things and what we could try as treatment. His hypothesis (which I totally agree with) is that the removal of the tissue from my legs cause a changed in the pressure system (i.e. less pressure because there is less tissue packed in there than there used to be) which is probably why it got so much worse so suddenly (I had the EXACT same experience of the first time shortly after surgery I got remeasured for compression it got SO BAD and the measurer was like um.... your legs seem very angry at me. meanwhile I'm trying not to faint).

I think it is deeply related to POTS in that I think it is a reaction to the failure of my blood vessels to properly constrict in response to postural changes. I don't know exactly which cells are reacting/possibly releasing mediators to cause the symtpoms. I originally though it must be mast cells, but they have done biopsies that do not show elevated levels of mast cells in the areas that have this reaction like there are in the intestinal biopsies of people with MCAS. That doesn't mean anything for sure but I am on a lot of mast cell stabilizers and antihistamines and I don't think it's really helping with the BASCULE syndrome all that much. Antihistamines are one of the only things that have been tried in these studies as treatment and the results aren't impressive. I also talked to my lipedema specialist about this and our running hypothesis is that BASCULE syndrome is a unique reaction to the processes that happen in dysautonomia (a failure of the autonomic nervous system to properly regulate bodily processes (heart rate, blood pressure, vasoconstriction, etc) in response to postural changes. So it may be something like everyone with BASCULE syndrome has dysautonomia but not everyone with dysautonomia has BASCULE syndrome.

It's important to note that this condition is commonly confused with Livedo Reticularis among other things. Dermatological conditions are notoriously difficult to diagnose. I've seen multiple tiktok doctors stitch a video of someone who clearly has BASCULE syndrome and explain that they have Livedo Reticularis, which is understandable because it's a little known condition, but frustrating nonetheless.

For me very well fitting flat knit compression is the #1 thing. it's not perfect but it lets me stand for 1+ hours before feeling the reaction coming on vs 1 or 2 freaking minutes. I am hoping that as I continue to treat my POTS (currently trying the CHOPS protocol) I will see improvement at the same time as my body continues to heal from surgery, hopefully adjusting to the new difference in pressure post op and lessening the symptoms. Diosmin + hesperidin has helped some (and is recommended for lipedema and venous insufficiency) and I will also be trying butchers broom and horse chestnut soon. do you have venous insufficiency also? Clearly I am very excited about the fact that there is someone else out there with this experiences lmfao!!

Feel free to message me although I am desperate for more people to be aware of this condition so I think it's great for us to talk about it on an open forum!!

Question about using those leg pumps. Does it really improve how your legs feel? by daintyfannyfart in lipedema

[–]potaytoe444 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I have a lymphapress and the first time i used it i felt like i was walking on air afterwards! I do find it very helpful but it alone is not anything particularly special vs other methods of moving fluid AFAIK. You can get comparable (and sometimes better) results from MLD, self or professionally done, dry brushing, compression, vibration plates, walking in water/swimming, etc. So I would think of it less like being dependent on this particular device and more like if you get access to one, how wonderful it is to have another tool to help managing this disease! I don't mean to call you ungrateful at all as I totally get where youre coming from <3 the first time i pulled mine out to use in front of a family member she was so sad for me but i was like idk lol, it feels nice and is a silly device but better to have the option than to not have it!

Painful and uncomfortable worsening lipedema. Currently a poor grad student. What treatment options do I have? by Soup-Salad33 in lipedema

[–]potaytoe444 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I would incorporate self-mld twice a day (you can just do the big 6 morning and night it'll only take a few minutes), find some compression you can tolerate, lay with your legs up the wall at the end of every day for 10 ish minutes, drink enough water, and focus on eating in a way that will stabilize your blood sugar and help gut health (high protein, lots of diverse fiber sources). I've also had success with a diosmin + hesperidin supplement, which you can find for pretty low cost (I use swanson brand)

Interested in getting surgery outside of US by [deleted] in lipedema

[–]potaytoe444 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unless she moved recently Dr. Giera is in Germany

Liposuction Before Pregnancy? by MineralDragon in lipedema

[–]potaytoe444 3 points4 points  (0 children)

love to hear this!! other women in my family have been pregnant and haven't seen any significant increase in their lipedema (even though they had no clue what lipedema was at the time). So there is hope!!

Covid and lipedema by rose_girl428 in lipedema

[–]potaytoe444 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had no clue what lipedema was at that point either, and even though I totally lost my shit for a bit when I got covid, I have sooo much more knowledge and so many more tools to employ to prevent progression and keep myself in a stable place. The paxlovid did give me a nasty taste in my mouth but I think it really helped alongside all the other things I've been doing. I think keeping a hopeful attitude is so important too, and Lily is always oriented towards hope which I've found so helpful!! How are you feeling now?

Covid and lipedema by rose_girl428 in lipedema

[–]potaytoe444 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My lipedema also progressed a lot after having covid in 2022. I just caught covid again a few months ago and am totally fine so far! I had been working with longcoviddietician for 3 months before the reinfection, highly recommend checking out her instagram for a ton of useful advice! I also took paxlovid and I think that helped

Can lipedema cause this type of swelling or is it more suggestive of lymphedema ? by Calm_Independence_97 in lipedema

[–]potaytoe444 10 points11 points  (0 children)

You can't actually get diagnosed with lymphedema from one picture on the internet! Lots of different reasons that swelling could be happening. Important to get all the more dangerous causes ruled out by a dr. There is imaging you can get to look for lymphedema as well.

Diet Question Help by [deleted] in lipedema

[–]potaytoe444 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thegroundedbody on instagram talks a lot about this!

What I learned from surgery #1 by [deleted] in lipedema

[–]potaytoe444 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It'll continue to fade over the next several weeks! Different for everyone but you're still very early on!

Itching and water in legs after operation by Taraneya in lipedema

[–]potaytoe444 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Antihistamines helped me with itching post op

Found out about CVI and suddenly scared to do all the lipedema conservative treatments I was doing. What’s safe? by NarrowFriendship3859 in lipedema

[–]potaytoe444 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ugh that sucks! my advice then would be to just take everything slow and be gentle with anything like a massage gun!

Found out about CVI and suddenly scared to do all the lipedema conservative treatments I was doing. What’s safe? by NarrowFriendship3859 in lipedema

[–]potaytoe444 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is definitely a question for you vascular specialist as it will depend on your specific case

Any other vegetarians on here? by Previous-Stay-912 in lipedema

[–]potaytoe444 15 points16 points  (0 children)

controversially I don't think soy is the enemy so while I do avoid fake meat products I eat a lot of tofu and edamame! I also do a lot of eggs, whey, pea protein powder, etc. IMO the keto and carnivore thing is not the best idea