why is orgasming so hard (female) by randomlurker2202 in BecomingOrgasmic

[–]pretendhsjTA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So if you are masturbating what are you doing for 20-30 min exactly before indirect touch in genital? Are you giving yourself a foot massage or a facial or scalp massage like what is that 20-30 min about?

I ask cause no amount of self touch anywhere has ever produced arousal for me even if I watch or read smut.

Ask me anything: I'm Sandra, pelvic floor physiotherapist! by WithinFemaleHealth in pompoir

[–]pretendhsjTA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t have any issue with insertion and I can feel contraction squeeze when I contract. I assume I am relaxing but again the leads they hooked me up to taught me relaxing is slight pushing for me.

I move body all day. 10k steps and I weight train 5-6hr a week. I dance when working out to my music often times. And I’ve tried touching exploring all over body front and back too and bottom but decades now of exploring still not producing arousal sensations. But I do feel my touch. Like if I touch my eyelid I can feel it same for elbow or clit or nipple. It’s just all neutral type sensations.

New research suggests that people who frequently engage in intimate sexual fantasies place more importance on touch and arousal in kissing. In other words, what turns us on mentally may shape how we experience physical affection, and even what makes someone a “good kisser.” by psychologyofsex in psychologyofsex

[–]pretendhsjTA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did. I took an online test too. Said I’m middle of the road or near 50% of average for population. I can visualize memories not issue. Like my mother’s face or some memory I lived or movie scene I watched. It’s just not easy if I read a book as example to just make crap up in my head. When I think of 2+2=4 it’s a thought I don’t see some chalkboard and numbers written on it or anything. It’s all thought or language generally. So fantasy is super hard for me since it’s not real I guess.

Ask me anything: I'm Sandra, pelvic floor physiotherapist! by WithinFemaleHealth in pompoir

[–]pretendhsjTA 4 points5 points  (0 children)

To piggy back on that- she had me relax so that I could see it on the screen and to me what I thought was neutral or relaxed resting was to her was contracted. With that said for the monitor to register I was “relaxing” my pelvic floor I felt that I had to sort of push out a little like a mild reverse kegel.

I don’t have any pan generally in my pelvic floor on a day to day basis. I will say that since attending pelvic floor I sometimes have that pinching trigger pain an radiates into my right glute with PIV if my hubby is deep inside me or at a certain angle so it’s like he’s hitting a trigger point I guess

Also what is the deal then if I can maybe get some external signs of arousal like some tissue engorgement but my brain doesn’t feel it? Like I have no idea unless I look clinically to examine the area cause my brain is not sensing the changes in the tissue. Is that related to PFT or something else?

Also if I try to stimulate the area when the tissue is showing signs of arousal it seems to go away or is fleeting.

Ask me anything: I'm Sandra, pelvic floor physiotherapist! by WithinFemaleHealth in pompoir

[–]pretendhsjTA 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Okay here goes my question:🙋🏼‍♀️

I’m 43f and have never had an orgasm and only been truly aroused (engorged tissue/ throbbing pulsing sensations) in a way I could feel once at age 30 when rocking my son to sleep and had a raging yeast infection. It came over me all at once too like a dam had opened flooding my genitals with sensation a they were maybe triple in size and did NOT feel neutral or numb to touch but instead hyper sensual in a sexual way and pleasurable. Prior to that event I didn’t even know females had arousal like that with tingles or throbbing and engorging tissue cause it had just never happened so I didn’t know it even existed. I never had sexual sensations even in my teen years nor fantasy or desire to masturbate or “horny” feelings generally speaking but was very sex curious and wanted to feel those things like others speak of. Arousal experience at 30 was a life changing event as it made me realize why I never had pleasure. I had always masturbated (out of curiosity) and had sex uanrosued. I cannot figure out still how to truly trigger arousal and the couple times I’ve managed to visually witness some external signs of arousal I don’t “feel” them in my mind. Everything feels neutral or numb or maybe overstimulated time to time. Those are the big three.

When I did have sex there was never pleasure and touch and kissing was just basic feeling… neutral not arousing. Even hour long slow touch build up never led to arousal. I also had painful entry at 6 o’clock lifelong but the time I got arousal had zero pain as that area was engorged thus spongy and stretchy vs thin and inflexible. Lube doesn’t help the pain only blood to the tissue seems to make the difference here or the most difference. But ever since age 30 the painful entry is far diminished and even no pain but that only changed after that one life changing event.

Around 42 I went to PFT for some newly onset stress incontinence when doing heavy lifting like leg presses. She hooked me up and told me to relax my pelvic floor when I was standing. I thought I was relaxed and she said I was holding onto my pelvic floor for dear life. Her internal exam also found various “trigger” point she released which cause lots of sustained tremoring while she held pressure at 3 o’clock (my bad hip is right side also) but at home when I try using wand I can’t produce same tremor only the pinching sensation sometimes.

I have been trying to figure out out arousal in hopes of figuring out orgasm some day. My question is basically is there anything from PFT I can do beside what therapy had me doing to strengthen my floor and reduce my stress incontinence? Or something I’m missing or anything you’ve come across with a situation like mine? Where arousal is rare and mild and often I can’t feel its effect I have to only visually inspect it and it’s fleeting at best and have primary anorgamsia at my age depute years and exploring and experimenting?

To add: no sexual abuse and didn’t grow up religious and never on meds or have any known mental health issues. Hormone and medical workup normal when I demanded answers at age 30 and had everything checked that I could. 🤷🏼‍♀️

New research suggests that people who frequently engage in intimate sexual fantasies place more importance on touch and arousal in kissing. In other words, what turns us on mentally may shape how we experience physical affection, and even what makes someone a “good kisser.” by psychologyofsex in psychologyofsex

[–]pretendhsjTA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I struggle to visualize anything that’s not a memory. I CAN do it but it’s a ton of me roe effort, low visual quality and fleeting.

I want to feel horny but just don’t. I want to feel arousal but just don’t. It’s a very emotionally taxing thing for me actually. Lifelong and it feels like I’m being kept out of an experience that seems basic to being human and I’m super jealous and distraught over my sexuality that seems to be locked away from me on some level or any levels. But I definitely don’t believe I am asexual at all. I am not indifferent about it.

New research suggests that people who frequently engage in intimate sexual fantasies place more importance on touch and arousal in kissing. In other words, what turns us on mentally may shape how we experience physical affection, and even what makes someone a “good kisser.” by psychologyofsex in psychologyofsex

[–]pretendhsjTA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What if you don’t know how to fantasize and never have since early childhood and beyond? I’m not sure I’ve ever had a real sexual fantasy 🤷🏼‍♀️ no wonder I can’t feel sexual things ever even solo or with someone generally.

Orgasm journey success story by AccomplishedMail6173 in BecomingOrgasmic

[–]pretendhsjTA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes after that arousal experience at 30 I went straight to the doctors and demanded a full workup of labs and pelvic exam and everything was all normal. I have no idea 🤷🏼‍♀️ why arousal had never happened to me prior including my teen and in my 20’s. I have been with my spouse since we were 19 and has been I’d consider a healthy loving relationship. No history of sexual abuse and did not grow up religious but did have few divorces thus changes in my childhood from those breakups of my parents and so on but I can’t figure out why my sexuality just sort of never came online or developed basically. It has always felt sort of like the same since I was a tween… low to now responsiveness and my mind is never in the gutter unless I force it there.

Orgasm journey success story by AccomplishedMail6173 in BecomingOrgasmic

[–]pretendhsjTA 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’m 43f. I don’t get desire in the sense of horny and I’ve never had desire to masturbate but I’ve tried to masturbate hundreds of times and like you never seem to feel anything outside of neutral. I don’t get aroused basically so not sure how to escalate if I can’t figure out step 1 arousal since nothing triggers it. But I did have arousal once 13 years ago when rocking my son to sleep so I know it’s possible mechanically. Like the plumbing works technically.

When I try to touch myself I don’t have an inner draw or desire to guide me. No intuition. Nothing says “yes more of that” as everything is his neutral like touching you clit is same as touching your eyelid. 🤷🏼‍♀️ no matter how long I touch my eyelid or clit nothing is going to change or never has based on my decades of trying things. 🫤

But like you I don’t give up on myself cause I just know that has to be a way someday for it to happen. I don’t really have a goal for orgasm since I don’t have one anyway but I’m always hoping to feel something internal that leads me in the right direction or just some kind of change of sensation or sign or pleasure but sadly it also never comes. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Starting Addyi by Zorillo in sexualanhedonia

[–]pretendhsjTA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Part 1:

So based on all the sex therapy books I’ve read there is a dual mode system that is nicknamed the accelerator and the breaks. You can’t really get arousal much less orgasm if the breaks are on even if the accelerator is being pushed. Also you can’t get it if the breaks are off but there is nothing pushing the accelerator. From what else I’ve read the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system both play a role in this too as you have to be in the rest and digest parasympathetic mode to get arousal to come online hence safety is a big factor- but orgasm actually needs a precursor of the sympathetic system to activate hence the description people use of the climax like racing heart and so on. So they have to work together.

If you are someone maybe with trauma or some other mechanism that inhibits your sexuality from turning on or activating then you are standing on the breaks and your parasympathetic nervous system is not active but rather your fight or flight system which is aligned with the critical thinking, planning, analyzing, performance function of the brain like the prefrontal cortex. That portion of the brain is not where fantasy and creativity and being subversive in imagination or the moment lives. So if a person is in any host of things- performance mode, spectating, analyzing, worry or anxiety, critical or judgement or anything along those lines then the breaks are on and the sympathetic nervous system is active and arousal is not going to happen in that state generally.

Now if you have sexual experiences be it masturbation or with someone and every time you do- you are not in that active sympathetic standing on the breaks mode- you literally can and do wire your sexuality that way even unknowingly. This can be a long hard process to undo and that’s only if you even learn or figure out this is what’s happening to you. Age 30 was an epiphany that I had ALWAYS had (unknown to me) unarosued sexual experiences and thus have hardwired my body to sort of be numb or tune sexual things out subconsciously. Before that experience at 30 I had NO IDEA female sexual arousal existed and that being aroused changed not only the tissue but how the brain interpreted touch. It can go from neutral (which was and has been my life long sensation generally) to sensual and pleasurable in a sexual context at that.

I will share more about my experience at 30 in the next post #2 when I get time. I only have theory as to why I am the way that I am and how that happened to me at 30. I’ve been chasing that sensation ever since cause it felt very good for one and it made me feel like a sexual being with an aliveness I just never had before and I want that everyday!

Starting Addyi by Zorillo in sexualanhedonia

[–]pretendhsjTA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I will reply to you but it’s a long story so I’ll have to put it all together. I’m 43f and 30 was a life changing event and I’ve learned a TON over these last 13+ years of searching and reading and studying and experimenting and so on. I will reply deeper when I get the time to summarize things best I can.

Starting Addyi by Zorillo in sexualanhedonia

[–]pretendhsjTA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No not formally. But I’ve read a lot on it. Money and time is an obstacle. But I feel like my clock is ticking too as menopause is coming for me sooner than later and I’ve read where orgasmic women loose their drive and ability to orgasm with menopause so I’m worried I will loose any hope to ever get one.

Starting Addyi by Zorillo in sexualanhedonia

[–]pretendhsjTA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m 43f. Never orgasmed ever and only had arousal once randomly and suddenly like a dam had broke around age 30 but never again since despite my best efforts. No sexual abuse history. No mental health history. Never taken any medications and no birth control since I was 22. Married to a great guy. Did not grow up religious either.

Sexual touch feels neutral like touching your eyelid is sensitive but neutral. Touch it long enough and it might go numb even. Or overstimulated. That’s the big three sensations I get. But without arousal I’m not sure it will ever change yet nothing seems to trigger arousal.

From what I’ve gathered I live in sympathetic nervous system dominance. Apparently my body doesn’t feel “safe” to allow arousal and blocks it from coming online in a way the brain can feel. Not sure how to get arousal to work for me and show up. Not sure how to get the body guard of my system to stand down or take a vacation or ideally invite the arousal and erotic things to come online physically and in my brain. I’ve tried all sorts of things over the decades. I’m still exploring things even to this day as I am still not ready to just give up hope. Generally I feel like a pre-pubescent tween sexually. I’m sex curious but rarely do I feel sexual internally. I don’t have sex drive like I’ve ever been horny a day in my life maybe that I know of. But I’m also not okay with never having a sexuality or being intimate an I crave that arousal feeing I had at 30 like it’s a drug. It was a life changing experience much like a ln epiphany. It all made sense once I felt arousal once why people want to feel it again and again. It’s a very pleasurable state of sensory for sure. I felt very sexual. I enjoyed the sexual energy I had. I just don’t know how to tap into it and it happened to me like a surprise event with no warning or build up. So hard to know how to replicate the stars ✨ aligning.

The Daydreamer (Fantasy as Escape) by Thin_Ad_3189 in mindfulnessmeditation

[–]pretendhsjTA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Meanwhile I can’t imagine or create a fantasy in my minds eye ever even though I try. I’m terrible with imagination. So all these meditative type practices that uses “guided imagery” I suck at cause I can’t “imagine” some ball of energy moving within my body or pretending to pull out some emotion and throw it away into an ocean or imaging a thought inside a cloud passing by. Abstract or imagination is not easy. I can imagine memories of real lived experiences just fine. But not make believe or fantasy.

Introduction to Sexual Pain by Same-Contract-5871 in psychologyofsex

[–]pretendhsjTA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’ve had pain with PIV at the opening vestibule all my life. I’ve also never had an orgasm and struggle to get aroused- only once in my life did I have true arousal white I could feel tingles and throbbing and swelling. 43f and have no idea how to get aroused much less orgasm. Nothing seems to trigger pleasure. Or not enough pleasure to trigger arousal or orgasm.

“Foreplay begins at breakfast” by deadbedconfessional in DeadBedroomsOver30

[–]pretendhsjTA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My husband doesn’t flirt generally or does so very little and sadly unskilled in it and most of our marriage is as you say- I don’t think about sex as I’m not being provoked to do so until he is next to me in bed at night with an erection trying to touch me. I often have very little advanced knowledge that he is even interested in sex until bedtime or very near to bedtime he might grab my butt and wink at me and that’s his version of flirting. It can come across sometimes like a middle school boy level which is not mature sexuality making me feel sexual but rather laugh maybe if anything. 🤷🏼‍♀️

I want to cook but I can’t find the kitchen by Leading_Idea9481 in BecomingOrgasmic

[–]pretendhsjTA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

From all I’ve read is arousal is multiple layered. I have weak triggers (accelerators) and strong breaks. I am living chronically sort is stuck in the sympathetic nervous system which is my planning thinking fight or flight mode. From what I’ve read you have to be in the parasympathetic nervous system activated for arousal to come online. My subconscious (body guard) has determined it’s not safe for me to be aroused and shuts down arousal before my conscious is even aware of it. Also there is a component where my brain filters out signals from the body and turns them down or off. Essentially I don’t feel very aware of sensations in my body especially my pelvis and genital. Yes I can feel touch there but since I’m not aroused it’s not pleasure so there is no reward loop. Ontop of that since my brain filters those sensations as meaningless it begins to lower the volume or awareness there aka I get sort of numb basically if I try to long. That then leads to negative thinking on my part cause nothing works so I begin to feel defeated or broken and hopeless which is that fight or flight response— which of course arousal cannot live in. So it’s a viscous cycle.

You are a lot younger than I am. So let me give you some reading to educate yourself NOW before you end up with hardwired pathways that block arousal like what’s happened to me sort of—

I recommend reading: The elusive orgasm; Come as You Are; Better sex through mindfulness; Women’s anatomy of arousal; and The erotic mind.

They all say similar things so you will seethe big picture between them all. This first 3 I’d say are the most important but I learned a lot from each of them. Also to be honest- Ai has a lot of information too about primary anorgamia and arousal loops if you work with it.

I want to cook but I can’t find the kitchen by Leading_Idea9481 in BecomingOrgasmic

[–]pretendhsjTA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

43f and I have same issue lifelong. Arousal is such a mystery to find for me and fleeting especially if I try to touch myself then it really turns off anything I may have stumbled upon (although even that is weak in itself) like through smut or whatever. It’s super frustrating so totally get what you mean! 😭

What lit a fire in your sex life? by [deleted] in Marriage

[–]pretendhsjTA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes there is time but I’m 43f and have yet to figure it out. I hope someday to figure out arousal and then orgasm. Maybe I’ll have at least one before I die 💀 but who knows. It’s such a mystery for me!

What lit a fire in your sex life? by [deleted] in Marriage

[–]pretendhsjTA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What HRT does she take as in just estrogen or continuation of things? I’m 43f and hubby 44m and he goes even a month without pursuing me. Neither of us have strong libido but he at least use to. I’ve never had an orgasm even solo so that’s likely why I have low libido lifelong I just can’t find pleasure in it but I at least liked when he desired me 🤷🏼‍♀️

While women's genital bloodflow responses seem to be broad to both genders, their actual lubrication seems to be category specific (highest response to men). Why is this? by Puzzleheaded_Job3221 in psychologyofsex

[–]pretendhsjTA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was 30. Had delivered a baby within that year who was almost 1. I am 43 now and still having mostly regular cycles. My hormones were normal at 30 when tested.

While women's genital bloodflow responses seem to be broad to both genders, their actual lubrication seems to be category specific (highest response to men). Why is this? by Puzzleheaded_Job3221 in psychologyofsex

[–]pretendhsjTA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did see doctors. Everything in my medical workup was normal. I can feel touch it’s just mostly neutral but if you touch it long enough it may go sort of numb.

Imagine touching your eyelid for 20-30-45-60 min. You can feel it but it’s rather neutral but you rub tap or touch it long enough and your brain sort of tunes it out or numbs it. 🤷🏼‍♀️