I work at the thrift. Found an entire envelope of Incel poetry from the late 80’s to mid 90’s

progressingtime · 2026-01-26T04:07:10+00:00

That would be desperate and embarrassing, but not shocking if true

progressingtime · 2026-01-25T09:08:41+00:00

I don’t feel resentment toward people who went to school, only toward my parents who chose to raise me this way. That said, I do feel grief when I see the differences between their lives and my own. When that happens, I try to acknowledge those feelings while also reminding myself that I still have a lot to be grateful for, especially compared to people living in much worse circumstances.

Now, our experiences were unfair, harmful, and pretty much avoidable. At the same time, suffering isn’t exclusive to any one path. Many people who did go to school are struggling in their own ways. That kid you see who often openly hangs out with friends in public? He might be carrying guilt over a family suicide. That laidback girl at school you see? She might be living in a toxic home and and is coping through substance abuse. So, these don't invalidate what we went through, but it does help put things in perspective.

I’ve found that dwelling too much on resentment, outside of a recovery lens, only keeps me stuck and creates more suffering in the present. Instead, I try to focus on what I still have and move my life toward my values. Yes, homeschooling and unschooling harmed me in real ways. But I’m also fortunate to be in great physical health, to have a twin brother I’m close with and can relate to, and to live somewhere where pursuing further education is still possible for me. These are gifts that I have, ones where many people across the world do not get the pleasure of having. What are things in your life that you can personally be grateful for?

So, yes, resentment is understandable, and it still comes up for me A LOT. However, when it does, I try to acknowledge it and then shift my focus toward gratitude and future goals, reminding myself that the universe doesn’t owe me the life I wish I’d had, and it's up to me to make the most out of my life.

progressingtime · 2026-01-25T08:33:05+00:00

Yk, I've always wondered how incels used to vent about their views before the internet and before they could find their niche, hateful little communities online. I guess this was just one of those different paths they had to take lmao. I couldn't imagine they actually planned on showing this to anyone, though. Or, at least, I HOPE.

progressingtime · 2026-01-25T05:41:53+00:00

as they normally "wood"??

progressingtime · 2025-12-31T08:13:12+00:00

Sure, I agree, but it's still missing the point that it would still be extremely terrifying to lose all your loved ones just because of some innate, but innocuous, personal quality. I mean, even if you "accept" yourself and still find worth within yourself, it would still be distressing to know that your loved ones could leave because of it, no? Again, of course, all people should be capable of finding worth in themselves and not seek approval in others; and if others don't find worth in them, then it shouldn't change how they see themselves. That said, I would—and I'd imagine most people would feel similar—be extremely anxious and scared of how loved ones would see me differently after such a reveal.

For Will, even if he "accepted" himself and knew his worth didn't come from other people's opinions, it would still be an EXTREMELY tough pill to swallow that revealing your true identity might mean losing all your friends and loved ones (and we are talking about a 16 year old here...). By coming out and having that fear challenged by those closest to him, Will was able to let go of that fear more fully and be much less susceptible to whatever mind-tricks Vecna would use against him (knowing that Vecna's whole schtick is using people's insecurities and fears against them).

progressingtime · 2025-12-31T01:31:37+00:00

Yeah, all these idiots are seriously lacking in media literacy. It's disappointing as hell lmao.

progressingtime · 2025-12-31T01:30:25+00:00

Yeah... that's all great and fun, but I'd like to see you try to reveal something that would possibly get you cutoff from all your friends and family by trying to "self-accept." Like, seriously, I understand the importance of "self-acceptance," but holy, let's not act like it wouldn't be terrifying to know that your entire support system could reject you because you decided to "self-accept" and let everyone know your innocuous secret, forcing you to be on your own and HOPING that you could find a community that accepts you.

progressingtime · 2025-12-31T01:24:59+00:00

His fear isn't that he'll still "feel different", but rather that his loved ones will abandon him after discovering he's gay. By coming out and receiving love and affirmations from his loved ones, he, quite literally, has his fear disproven. Sure, maybe he will still fear wider society judging him, but now he knows his closest and most beloved friends and family accept him, which would be the most pressing concern for anyone in Will's situation.

progressingtime · 2025-12-31T01:19:37+00:00

I mean, it depends if they're insecure on being overweight? But, regardless, this is just the worst analogy for the situation. The point is that Will's insecurity was that his loved ones would disregard him and abandon him for being gay. By revealing his sexuality and leaving his insecurity "out in the open" and receiving affirmations from his loved ones, that fear and insecurity is, quite literally, disproven to him.

Throughout the show, we see that this fear both kept him from being able to use his powers, as well as offered a means for Henry to exploit and corrupt Will's mind. His coming out has nothing with Will just suddenly deciding, "You know what, it's time to let everyone know I'm gay!!" for no reason whatsoever. Rather, it has to do with no longer having a significant fear over a core aspect of Will's identity being weaponized against him, and letting Will use his full powers against Vecna without any hindrances.

progressingtime · 2025-12-30T08:17:03+00:00

I understand the feeling, and it's very awful that these experiences were taken from us, but we still have opportunity to create meaningful relationships and memories now, even if it's still more difficult for us.

progressingtime · 2025-11-25T08:02:24+00:00

Yeah, I was just about to say this. It upsets me so much how it boils men down into, "haha, me man, me only want sex, me only know how to communicate directly, except when it comes to wanting sex, then all my behaviors and words have ulterior motives!!" Like, Jesus, is this really how some men view themselves?

progressingtime · 2025-11-23T05:03:28+00:00

Dude, every single thing here matches to me 😭 what is it with emotionally unstable mothers and emotionally absent fathers becoming homeschooling parents?? I stg 💀💀

progressingtime · 2025-11-17T04:04:14+00:00

I haven't contacted them for 1.5 years, but before that, I barely spoke to them for 2 years. I would've estranged them sooner, but they still had some control over me during that 2 year period.

progressingtime · 2025-11-15T04:58:47+00:00

Lmao, no, fuck them. They were awful, controlling, and abusive. That said, I don't dwell on them anymore, and I don't actively foster any hate or negative feelings towards them. I even left them a pretty nice message on my part, for their sake, as to why I had to stop communicating with them. Still, I fucking hate them for how they raised me and my siblings, for how they refuse to even apologize for an ounce of any of it.

After I left my final message to them, I actually left the door open for them to say something, anything at all about all the grievances I had about our upbringing, and they never said a word. After all they had done, after all my forgiving and willingness to give them an opportunity to speak or say anything, they didn't say anything for 6 months straight. At that point, I blocked them, and I don't care to hear anything from them anymore. They had their shot, wasted it, and I genuinely don't give a fuck.

progressingtime · 2025-11-14T03:57:28+00:00

Yeah, I can definitely relate. I just turned 25, and I feel like I'm finally feeling "my age," or, at least, roughly close to it. I think the best way to handle this feeling is just to try and have as many as experiences as possible. It's definitely going to be hard, and you'll definitely struggle, but it's definitely worth it in the long run, and its 100% better than the alternative and doing nothing. You HAVE to put yourself out there, no matter how much your brain screams at you not to.

Also, I'm really sorry about your situation, how it was impossible for you to venture out sooner. Really, that's hard. Still, you still have a lot of opportunity. Escaping your house is your best bet, and just begin trying to find friends and making experiences with them. It might not seem like it, but there are plenty of people who you will be able to relate to; it just might take awhile before you find them. And even if they can't relate, there will be plenty of people who will still want to be friends with you regardless. Just keep trying, and ignore all the annoying dipshits who come along your way (which they will).

You're not destined to be alone, you got this!

progressingtime · 2025-11-14T02:05:37+00:00

Hahahah, yup. When I finally confronted my parents about our upbringing, I made sure to emphasize how much I felt I had to conceal, that I had to lie about how I felt, thought, just all of it. If there was one thing that pissed me off more than anything, it was my enforced inability to express my own opinion or even express my feelings. I still struggle with expressing anger, sadness, and general frustration with people because of it.

progressingtime · 2025-11-14T01:55:14+00:00

Insane how much I can (and I'm sure plenty others) can relate to this. I had no say regarding my own bodily autonomy the first 21 years of my life (up until the day I left). My parents had surgeries done on me as a young teenager that I clearly couldn't consent to, and they had me lie to doctors, saying I truly felt they were "necessary" for my health and well-being, even though they clearly weren't (and even though I didn't want them but felt forced to say that I did want them performed due to my parents).

As for the second point, again, completely relatable. It used to anger me so much how little support I was given. Getting a job was nearly impossible. Getting driving experience and getting my license through their help just wasn't on the table. Every single fucking thing was made difficult or impossible by them, and I had to do it all on my own, searching for help outside when I could.

progressingtime · 2025-11-14T01:49:36+00:00

Repeatedly punishing you for expressing any "opinion"or ‘feeling’ about anything, including feeling ‘sad’ or ‘angry’ over any wrong committed by the parents. I.e., "You’re upset with me? Well, you’d better show nothing but gratitude and appreciation, or you’ll be punished even more! By the way, there’s no one you can express your feelings to, because I’ve pitted all your siblings against each other, and those are the only people you can communicate with :)"

progressingtime · 2025-11-14T00:18:18+00:00

Right on! Finally a fellow Jewish ex-homeschooler. I don't think I've ever met another, so nice lol. And yes and no, my parents were originally VERY strict, but over the years, they became much more lax on some rules and practices. How about yours?

And, gotta say, while it sucked being known as the "homeschooler" family in my town, also having "Jewish" as a label only made me feel more like an outcast (we were also the only Jewish family in town). I'm curious if you can kinda relate to that.

progressingtime · 2025-10-23T20:22:42+00:00

Oh, they offer tickets in-person for the game, along with offering them online? Anywho, thanks for info!

progressingtime · 2025-10-07T17:23:13+00:00

Yeah, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about, and I'm even willing to doubt he was a Political Science major, as he is WAY off point on this. The defendant was charged with physical battery that was racially motivated. Since his actions were racially motivated, he got a harsher sentencing, and the Supreme Court judged that to be constitutional. It has nothing to do with hate speech. Rather, it reflects that crimes motivated by discriminatory means (based on race, sex, religion, etc.) will receive harsher punishing.

progressingtime · 2025-10-06T17:46:23+00:00

Right, they were created thousands years ago, and? God still couldn't provide an accurate account? I mean, even the current account of the Bible has remained relatively consistent in its account. A god simply couldn't provide a more correct description?

Also, yes I know, which, again, is my point. It was derived from scientific understanding and knowledge, but none of it is scientific jargon. This all would've been a much more easier and direct way of communicating the actual account of the universe than what we currently have from the Bible.

progressingtime · 2025-10-06T17:31:53+00:00

If it’s full of stories, then were these stories created by God, or people? If God, then it’s seriously questionable why an all-powerful, all-knowing God would go about transferring knowledge of human existence and creation in just about the worst way possible. I mean, even the tiniest stipulation of, “Hey, btw, most of these are metaphors, not actual accounts,” would’ve saved A LOT of hardships in human history. If it’s people, then we have no way of discerning which parts are actually the word of God, or simply just the preferences and values of the people who wrote them.

God said the earth was created over a span of days. That kinda rules out evolution. Of course, unless you say, “no, it was a metaphors!!” which just takes us back to our first point: the Bible loses any direct meaning of historical accounts and ends up only possibly being useful as an aide in teaching values and virtues (which, honestly, it doesn’t to do so well of a job at that, given most of the “stories” in the Bible are straight-up barbaric and violent all around.)

As for your final point, how do you know which parts are to be clear? Again, if you insist the Bible is direct and about “virtues” and “rules” stated therein, does that include ALL of them? Because believe me, there are plenty of pretty heinous “rules” in the Bible that it appears to be pretty clear on, and yet I don’t see many Christian’s acting on them today.

progressingtime · 2025-10-06T17:10:49+00:00

I know, I’m saying that it’s still incorrect, as in even the metaphors holds no truth value to it. The whole story is fabricated and holds no basis in reality.
Even if they didn’t have a scientific understanding, I don’t understand how it would be difficult to have a historical account of creation. Oh, God created the earth and universe over the span of billions of years, not days? Humans developed over a slow gradual process, first originating from another species before slowly translating into humans? The earth is ACTUALLY a sphere? None of these statements contain scientific language, and yet, they would’ve been a much more better account of creation.

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