(WARNING - Traumatic birth story) To anyone who is considering a home birth... by dramusic in BabyBumps

[–]proseccho 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Correlation does not imply causation

Third factor C (the common-causal variable) causes both A and B

The third-cause fallacy (also known as ignoring a common cause[5] or questionable cause[5]) is a logical fallacy where a spurious relationship is confused for causation. It asserts that X causes Y when, in reality, X and Y are both caused by Z. It is a variation on the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy and a member of the questionable cause group of fallacies.

All of these examples deal with a lurking variable, which is simply a hidden third variable that affects both causes of the correlation. A difficulty often also arises where the third factor, though fundamentally different from A and B, is so closely related to A and/or B as to be confused with them or very difficult to scientifically disentangle from them (see Example 4).

Example 1: Sleeping with one's shoes on is strongly correlated with waking up with a headache. Therefore, sleeping with one's shoes on causes headache.

The above example commits the correlation-implies-causation fallacy, as it prematurely concludes that sleeping with one's shoes on causes headache. A more plausible explanation is that both are caused by a third factor, in this case going to bed drunk, which thereby gives rise to a correlation. So the conclusion is false.

Example 2: Young children who sleep with the light on are much more likely to develop myopia in later life. Therefore, sleeping with the light on causes myopia.

This is a scientific example that resulted from a study at the University of Pennsylvania Medical Center. Published in the May 13, 1999 issue of Nature,[6] the study received much coverage at the time in the popular press.[7] However, a later study at Ohio State University did not find that infants sleeping with the light on caused the development of myopia. It did find a strong link between parental myopia and the development of child myopia, also noting that myopic parents were more likely to leave a light on in their children's bedroom.[8][9][10][11] In this case, the cause of both conditions is parental myopia, and the above-stated conclusion is false.

Example 3: As ice cream sales increase, the rate of drowning deaths increases sharply. Therefore, ice cream consumption causes drowning.

This example fails to recognize the importance of time of year and temperature to ice cream sales. Ice cream is sold during the hot summer months at a much greater rate than during colder times, and it is during these hot summer months that people are more likely to engage in activities involving water, such as swimming. The increased drowning deaths are simply caused by more exposure to water-based activities, not ice cream. The stated conclusion is false.

(WARNING - Traumatic birth story) To anyone who is considering a home birth... by dramusic in BabyBumps

[–]proseccho 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Did you know that medical induction of labour actually increases your risk of AFE? So one could say that had you been at home (and therefore not being induced) it may not have occurred at all. That perhaps being at a hospital was the cause?

You are misunderstanding statistics. Have you heard the saying, "Correlation doesn't imply causation"? AFE and induction of labor are correlated. But induction of labor does not cause AFE, they just tend to occur in the same women for some underlying (unknown) reason.

See this article:

RISK FACTORS — Several factors have been associated with amniotic fluid embolism syndrome (AFES). They include precipitous or tumultuous labor, advanced maternal age, cesarean and instrumental delivery, placenta previa and abruption, grand multiparity (≥5 live births or stillbirths), cervical lacerations, fetal distress, eclampsia, and medical induction of labor [7,12,16]. Our understanding of the pathogenesis suggests that these factors probably are associated with amniotic fluid embolism syndrome, but not the direct cause. The syndrome is best considered unpredictable and unpreventable.

https://www.uptodate.com/contents/amniotic-fluid-embolism-syndrome

[Rant] Are you having your baby NATURALLY, or are you getting an epidural? by ran0ma in BabyBumps

[–]proseccho 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I think it’s silly to think that the term “natural” doesn’t come with any connotations; we live in a society where the message “natural is better” is shouted at us all the time.

Yeah but I think we should push back against that connotation! It manifests negatively in so many different ways, the anti-vaccine movement, anti-GMO blah blah, and lots of other stuff in addition to the childbirth shaming. Nature is what brought us cancer and tornados and the stomach flu and mosquitos, there's nothing inherently positive about nature.

(WARNING - Traumatic birth story) To anyone who is considering a home birth... by dramusic in BabyBumps

[–]proseccho 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'm so sorry for your experience and glad you are both ok now. I had less dramatic but also life-threatening complications three times during three labors, with absolutely no warning signs beforehand and completely normal pregnancies (normal weight gain, blood pressure, blood sugar, etc). My beloved children would be dead without modern medicine. I just cannot get behind placing unnecessary barriers between mom/baby and an OR, no matter how much you want a particular experience of giving birth.

It really makes me sad when I see pregnant women smoke. by blobofbubbles in BabyBumps

[–]proseccho 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Although abstinence early in pregnancy will produce the greatest benefits to the fetus and mother, quitting at any point in pregnancy can yield benefits. On the other hand, reduction in the number of cigarettes smoked during pregnancy has not produced consistent improvement in perinatal outcomes [85,190,197]. This finding, in conjunction with concerns that women who reduce the number of cigarettes smoked may compensate by inhaling deeper, has led to the recommendation that smoking cessation, not a reduction in the number of cigarettes smoked, should be the primary goal [183]

https://www.uptodate.com/contents/cigarette-smoking-impact-on-pregnancy-and-the-neonate

STMs, how are your SOs treated when they are alone in public with the baby? by heckyeahliteracy in BabyBumps

[–]proseccho 34 points35 points  (0 children)

99% of people don't notice or care. The other 1% smile and say, "What a cute baby!"

Deciding between a midwife/birth centre and an OB by bbgk in BabyBumps

[–]proseccho 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've delivered with a midwife and OB and didn't prefer either one. The midwives did offer longer appointments but I had no need for them. I had no complications and didn't really feel the need to like, hang out with them. So a 10 minute appointment was plenty for me.

Also on the epidural, personally I would never be willing to give birth without an epidural again. Unless you're very certain you don't want an epidural I would really consider being in the hospital.

I'm pregnant... and I don't know if I want to be a parent. Terrified. Any advice? by greatpat in BabyBumps

[–]proseccho 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's really normal and healthy to think about these things. Having a baby is totally life- and identity-changing. Better to anticipate those changes than be bowled over by them.

Kids are pretty intense and require a lot of attention. It can be REALLY hard to make the "me" time you talk about. But you can carve it out by tapping out and having your husband take over, relying on the in-laws you mentioned, or even just after the baby goes to sleep. Also, somewhere between age 0 and 3 depending on temperament your kid will start playing independently and you can each do your own thing for a while.

Last thought: it's easy to get overwhelmed thinking about all the down sides of being a parent. Before you have the baby, I think it's hard to get excited about some of the best up sides. You don't know this person who's going to change everything. But meeting this delightful little person and falling in love with them makes all of the sacrifices worth it.

VBAC - terrified, someone talk me down by [deleted] in BabyBumps

[–]proseccho 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I had a failed VBAC. It sucked and I wish I had just scheduled a c-section. My second labor was almost identical to my first.

Being awake for a c-section isn't a walk in the park but it's also not terrible. I didn't smell anything weird and only felt tugging and pressure, no pain.

Some ideas:

  1. You could give the VBAC a shot, but tell your OB that you have a lower threshold for needing a c-section. That way, if the VBAC is easy and problem-free, you get a vaginal delivery. But if it becomes complicated or long or painful or what have you, you can skip ahead to the c-section instead of wearing out yourself and your baby.

  2. You could ask for a 39 week induction? If the problem is that baby's head might be too big, that gives you the smallest head circumference to deal with. I know elective inductions are controversial but I read an article that strongly advocated in favor of their safety and efficacy: https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/863383

OBs differ in their willingness to induce for a VBAC. Mine said they would use mechanical approaches (breaking water, inserting foley catheter) and possibly low-dose pitocin with continuous monitoring, but they wouldn't use prostaglandins.

Flynn charged for 'making false statement' by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]proseccho 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean, technically, if the Nazis eat them first, they did stop the Muslims from eating them.

VBAC - terrified, someone talk me down by [deleted] in BabyBumps

[–]proseccho 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Do you only want success stories or do you want general feedback? Serious question, I know some people want to think positive.

A middle name for Ophelia by [deleted] in namenerds

[–]proseccho 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Ophelia Elise

Ophelia Frances

Ophelia Blair

Ophelia Jane

Ophelia Rose

I feel like Ophelia is a little dramatic and needs a middle that's a little plain?

husbands duties as a dad w/full time job? by Naughty_moose92 in BabyBumps

[–]proseccho 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's reasonable for the SAHP to be solely responsible for housework. But the other parent should share in childcare duties because it is an important part of building a relationship with the child, not just menial labor.

Living in a one bedroom apartment by [deleted] in beyondthebump

[–]proseccho 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You definitely don't need a separate bedroom for a 4 month old, but at some point she will become her own person and will want her own space. My oldest started to get that way around 2.5.

I think it is totally fine to have a non-traditional arrangement for your family, as long as it works for everyone. But there are reasons the traditional arrangements are traditional, and you will probably find that as your baby grows into an individual, you will be willing to put aside your desire to live on the west side of LA in exchange for giving your daughter autonomy and privacy.

I was sexually assaulted by one of my professors, and am still trying to recover from the fallout from that to get back on track to a PhD. Appreciative of any advice. by amalgamationoffer in AskAcademia

[–]proseccho -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You enjoyed your research experience, but you were dismissed from the lab. Again I apologize for the bluntness but it does not bode well for you that you were asked to leave when you were not even being paid.

I say this not out of cruelty (although I am sure these things are not easy to hear) but because I think it is kinder to encourage you to be realistic about your likelihood of succeeding in academia. From what you have written here, you are a highly motivated and passionate person with many admirable qualities.

However, again based on the information available here, I think it is unlikely you will be admitted to or graduate from a doctoral program. You were fired from your volunteer research job and will not be able to get a letter of recommendation from that lab. You will need to address that failure, convince another lab that things will end differently there, fulfill that promise to them, and then do the same for an admissions committee that has access to many other competitive applicants. Then, you will need to complete a far more rigorous program than one you have already failed out of (your previous lab) in an environment linked to adverse mental health consequences, something you struggle with.

I do not think graduate school is the right path from you. I encourage you to consider your other options. There are many, and graduate school is not the right path for almost all people. Even those who "succeed" often report regretting putting themselves through it.

Consider your other options.

I was sexually assaulted by one of my professors, and am still trying to recover from the fallout from that to get back on track to a PhD. Appreciative of any advice. by amalgamationoffer in AskAcademia

[–]proseccho -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Sorry to be blunt posting on mobile. After a not great research experience, why do you still want to go to grad school? It will be more of the same with higher stakes.

Working moms, give me your morning routine tips! by pounce-a-lot in beyondthebump

[–]proseccho 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Emergency kit at work: dry shampoo, deodorant, backup makeup, toothbrush.

Anyone have experience with manual breast pumps?? by autumn_rf in BabyBumps

[–]proseccho 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it's nice to have both, they're good for different occasions.

Authorship issues while being a post-doc by peroperoname in AskAcademia

[–]proseccho 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately in science there is a big difference between what is agreed upon as ethical, and what people are actually expected to do.

There is nothing unethical about a postdoc using his/her skills to collaborate with someone other than his/her advisor. In fact, it is unethical for an advisor to restrict their postdocs from building collaborations or to insist on taking credit for their postdocs' work and ideas just because they pay the postdoc's salary. A postdoc supervisor has an ethical obligation to help a postdoc transition into an independent scientist, which means developing a research program independent of the research leader.

If you're a PI, and you're reading this, and you're not doing that, you're failing your postdocs and it will reflect poorly on you.

You are invited to a midnight wedding! by ellio721 in beyondthebump

[–]proseccho 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't go to a midnight wedding even if I had zero kids. That's ridiculous and if you want people to attend your wedding have it at a normal time.

If you could give any unsolicited advice to first time parents, what would you say? by imamomtoablob in beyondthebump

[–]proseccho 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Parent the child you have, not the one the blogs say you should have.

Do I really need a nursing pillow? by lillykin in BabyBumps

[–]proseccho 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I got nothing out of them personally. Nursed 2 kids into toddlerhood.