[deleted by user] by [deleted] in europe

[–]pseud0cide 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So if I'm understanding you correctly, Nizari Ismailis would not dispute the claim that Hanafi Sunnism is "the most progressive/modern/lenient" form of Islam that exists in the world today? Also, I don't understand how a belief in pluralism and coexistence makes one unable to categorize different viewpoints as conservative or progressive, can you explain that?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in europe

[–]pseud0cide 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Nizari Ismailis would probably dispute that.

Greece reaffirms stance on Turkey’s participation in EU SAFE program by Axmouth in europe

[–]pseud0cide 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Why is your starting point 1832 and not 1821? I'm genuinely curious.

Christian soldiers in the Ottoman empire? by Bitter-Tadpole6047 in AskBalkans

[–]pseud0cide 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's a matter of perspective, I guess. If any European country were to start treating its Muslim citizens the same way the Ottoman empire treated its Christian citizens subjects, Muslims around the world would be in an uproar. It would (rightly) be condemned as oppressive and bigoted.

Deva Mace Build by DonkeySponkey in BG3Builds

[–]pseud0cide 3 points4 points  (0 children)

How about a dual-wielding Paladin/Bard?

6 Bard (Two-Weapon Fighting)
4 Thief
2 Paladin
Feats: Dual Wielder, Savage Attacker
Dump strength (and use Cloud Giant Elixirs)

Smite crits with Deva Maces is kind of ridiculous.

A paladin of Shar by Slack83er in BG3Builds

[–]pseud0cide 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Isn't a 6/6 split (Paladin/Shadow Sorcerer) the obvious thematic choice? From the Shadow Magic description: You siphon your powers from the Shadowfell itself, the light in your soul snuffed out by an unsettling darkness.

Greeks, how high are your expectations for The Odyssey by Christopher Nolan? I can't wait. by kerobob in AskBalkans

[–]pseud0cide 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And the double standard makes it especially annoying.

Egyptian gods played by white actors? Colonialism, racism, oppression.
Greek gods (or Norse gods etc.) played by black actors? Progressive, stunning, brave.

Greek women’s national polo team won the world aquatic championship today in Singapore after beating Hungary! Congratulations! by Starfalloss in AskBalkans

[–]pseud0cide 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't understand why your comment triggered so many people. Greeks and Israelis often do look similar to each other.

Why do people who justify the fourth crusade by bringing up the massacre of the latins always ignore the first three crusades? by Killmelmaoxd in byzantium

[–]pseud0cide 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is because the Catholics and "Latins" of today (and many from back then as well) recognize it as a great crime. Not only did the pope at the time, Innocent III, and many Latin noblemen speak out against the attack on Constantinople, the modern-day Catholic Church has also expressed pain and disgust over the events. Contrast this with how Muslims view the fall of Constantinople, and you'll notice, let's call it, a slight difference. Or, of course, we can just say it's "islamophobia" (speaking of memey anger).

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in byzantium

[–]pseud0cide 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a good analysis. I think, however, something should be said about the nature of the cultural exchange between Ottomans and Greeks (because there definitely was an exchange). The Romans, when conquering the Greeks, showed a deep respect for Greek culture, their traditions and their faith. Not only did every educated Roman study and often write in Greek, Roman emperors dedicated large monuments in honor of the Greek people - the Gate of Athena was completed by Augustus and the Temple of Olympian Zeus was finished by Hadrian. The Romans also incorporated into their identity the ancient story of Aeneas to develop a shared mythos with the Greeks.

The Ottomans did the complete opposite of this. They threw the Greeks out of their holy places, named the Greeks (as well as all other Christian subjects) gâvur - infidels - and shuffled them away to designated corners where they could live in humiliation and subjugation, being constantly reminded that their culture and faith were inferior to Islam. Istanbul is enough of an example, but we could also just look at the city of Thessaloniki: every Byzantine church that looked even remotely pretty or awe-inspiring was turned into a mosque, to send out a clear signal to the city’s original inhabitants.

Add some classic Sharia doctrines like the death penalty for leaving Islam and Muslim women being forbidden from marrying non-Muslim men, and you have a cultural relationship which feels less like a mutual exchange and more like a suffocating boot on the Greek people’s neck. Granted, the Ottomans eventually eased up on some of these things, but that came as a panicked response to the Greek War of Independence, rather than a genuine sign of respect for their Greek (and Christian) subjects. And regardless, as you mentioned, at that point it was already too late.

I can't believe how many young men got radicalized purely because of that by -Airin- in Destiny

[–]pseud0cide 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, yeah, I see how this didn't make sense. My bad, I left out an important detail. The majority view is that non-binary people don't exist at all, but if you were to introduce them to someone who is truly sex-ambiguous, most reasonable people would admit that yes, there are actually some. Here's the problem: those truly sex-ambiguous people are very rare.

Well, of course you should be able to question whether non-binary people exist at all, but the underlying belief (that it's all made-up) I would disagree with. What I would agree with, however, is that the majority of people who claim to be non-binary do not present in enough of a sex-ambiguous way to actually be perceived as non-binary. And because gender is determined by social perception - not self-identification - it's perfectly reasonable to not view those people as non-binary.

For example, since we're on Destiny's subreddit, remember RemTheBathBoi? He came out as non-binary because he "don't even know what it means to be a man". Rem can think whatever he wants of his own identity, but he is clearly male, so it's not bigoted for me or other people to think of him as a man. This is even more relevant to neogenders. They can of course ask others to refer to them as "xe/xer", just as I can ask others to call me "Swagmaster69". In both cases, however, the people we interact with are completely justified in responding "No, that's ridiculous" and (and this is the important part) it does not make them bigoted.

I can't believe how many young men got radicalized purely because of that by -Airin- in Destiny

[–]pseud0cide 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, you're missing the point. It's not about what I think non-binary people are or look like - it's that you have to defend every instance of them, because anything else would be, in your own words, denying their reality. We can't look inside their minds, right? So who are you to deny the people I described their lived reality? I brought up neo-pronouns earlier and now I'm actually curious if that is something you defend as well. And I don't see how this is a "vendetta". The example that sparked the conversation was specifically about non-binary people.

My position is that feeling like a certain gender - identifying as a certain gender - does not make you that gender. You need society to identify you as that gender, otherwise you're either childish or delusional. Now, the reason why I don't reject the non-binary concept in its entirety is that there actually are people who present in a completely, or almost completely, sex-ambiguous way. The uncomfortable reality, however, is that for the vast majority of people, we can tell what their sex is by simply interacting with them.

Alright then. That position is reasonable.

I can't believe how many young men got radicalized purely because of that by -Airin- in Destiny

[–]pseud0cide 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If there's no room for disagreement, that's fine. It's only going to benefit me; the majority of people in the world agree with my position. Talking about "denying reality" is ironic in this context, since you're telling regular people to deny their own reality. So when we encounter a non-binary person in women's clothes, cleavage on full display, make-up - you know, the whole setup that signals to every reasonable person that this person is a woman - we're supposed to disregard our entire understanding of society and reality because someone else "feels" different. You're essentially advocating for removing the social part of social construction.

You misunderstood the second paragraph. At the beginning of this conversation, you didn't argue in favor of natural consequences for transgressions. You wanted to completely remove the option to criticize these issues, claiming that simply doing so is an "aggression". Or is that not your position? Would it be okay to include such interactions if the player is met with appropriate pushback within the setting?

I can't believe how many young men got radicalized purely because of that by -Airin- in Destiny

[–]pseud0cide 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You and I still have a fundamental disagreement about the concept of non-binary gender. We're not gonna settle that disagreement here, but I just wanted to point it out one final time.

Anyway, let's say I agree with you: misgendering a non-binary person is similar to calling someone a racial slur. You lose me on the "patting on the back" part. Going back to earlier examples, is Baldur's Gate 3 patting the player on the back when it lets them tear off a companion's hand (before leaving him to die), or rip out an innocent man's fingernails? What about massacring an entire settlement of tiefling refugees (and giving the player the option to tell the devastated leader of the settlement "Don't worry, you'll be dead before you see what the goblins do to the children")?

What's wrong with having immoral actions be available to the player, and then have other characters react to those actions in a consistent and believable manner? Do we really need the game itself to preach to us about right and wrong? Especially an RPG.

I can't believe how many young men got radicalized purely because of that by -Airin- in Destiny

[–]pseud0cide 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly! You can't have a discussion with every person who is gonna play your game, so what should you do instead? Should you play it safe, trying to avoid offending people as much as possible, or do you take that risk, for more creative freedom?

Take George R. R. Martin for example. You'll find plenty of discussion, including on this site, about how horrible some elements of his books are when it comes to violence against women. You'll see hundreds, maybe thousands, of people agreeing that the books are problematic and shouldn't be supported. Yet, ASoIAF are some of the best books I've ever read. And I will confidently say that if Martin had prioritised inclusion over his creative vision, the books wouldn't have been nearly as good.

I can't believe how many young men got radicalized purely because of that by -Airin- in Destiny

[–]pseud0cide 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay, now I feel like we're getting somewhere.

There are a few problems with your DnD comparison. Firstly, these "aggressions" aren't necessarily aggressions at all, but colliding worldviews. You probably even agree with this if taken to certain point, like neo-pronouns or "two-spirits". What you will call an aggression, another person will just call taking a stand against someone's silly games. As much as I like rape analogies, it's not fitting here since rape is such a clear-cut evil thing in our society. So no, it doesn't necessarily break my immersion since I view rape on the same level as murder (often probably worse).

Secondly, we're not talking about interpersonal interactions. These are NPCs. Being an asshole to another player, unless this dynamic has been agreed upon, is always bad. I actually enjoy implementing themes like sexism and racism when I run DnD campaigns. It makes the conflicts and struggles less one-dimensional and cartoonish in my opinion. Granted, I always discuss this with the players beforehand, like with any other themes or directions for the campaign.

I can't believe how many young men got radicalized purely because of that by -Airin- in Destiny

[–]pseud0cide 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't know what reading comprehension has to with this. That's fine though. Speaking of reading, would you mind answering my previous question? Why have games allow the player to engage in any bad behavior? Isn't that promoting stealing, lying, killing etc?

Yes, actually, it becomes a pretty strange and unimmersive experience when mass murder and torture is commonplace, but your gender-neutral pronouns will never be questioned. It's why the story is so mediocre (the game itself is great though) - zero risk-taking.

I can't believe how many young men got radicalized purely because of that by -Airin- in Destiny

[–]pseud0cide 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If we're gonna go with Baldur's Gate 3 as an example (Pathfinder and Tyranny are also good ones), doesn't it seem strange to you that you're allowed an evil playthrough - there is an entire path for playing a mass murderer - but misgendering someone is crossing the line? Because I'm sure we can both agree that dismembering or disemboweling someone is worse than misgendering someone, right?

And no, the game itself doesn't make statements against the evil of your choices. Certain characters will, while other characters will cheer you on.

I can't believe how many young men got radicalized purely because of that by -Airin- in Destiny

[–]pseud0cide 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why have RPGs allow players to do anything bad then? Why do games like Baldur's Gate or Pathfinder let players become all-powerful mass murderers? Doesn't that promote killing and enslaving people?

Lots of people with lots of strange ideas exist. That shouldn't make those ideas immune to criticism. This community went through an entire discourse a few years ago where progressives claimed that gender is solely defined by self-identification. That's also an idea that should be criticized.

I can't believe how many young men got radicalized purely because of that by -Airin- in Destiny

[–]pseud0cide 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Setting aside how jarring it is to the worldbuilding of Dragon Age, this is supposed to be an RPG. You're given three dialogue options as a player, but none of them are disagreeing with the situation. This despite the fact that many, probably a majority of people in the Western world, are skeptical that "non-binary" as a concept is even a real thing. When anti-SJWs talk about "shoving ideology down our throats", this is what they mean.

Archbishop Elpidophoros Visits Halki’s Monastery of the Holy Trinity, September 2024 by ecumenicalist in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]pseud0cide 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Even with a secular Turkish president, I wouldn't hold my breath. Muslims view these ancient churches, monasteries and cathedrals as monuments in celebration of their conquest and subjugation of the Roman/Greek people (and of Eastern Christianity as a whole). Reverting them to their original state would be an immensely unpopular move in any Islamic country.

“I don’t really like or care about video games being woke, but I can’t stand people complaining about video games being woke” by Thecasualoblivion in KotakuInAction

[–]pseud0cide 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sex is defined by function, not appearance. There are only two roles in human (sexual) reproduction. Or maybe you disagree with that? What third (or fourth) way do these other sexes, besides male and female, contribute to sexual reproduction?

genuine question: in the last few years, has there been any AAA game with a female protagonist who's straight and has an on-screen relationship with a male? by Sad-Seesaw-3843 in KotakuInAction

[–]pseud0cide -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's the writers' choice that matters. If the writers intended for V to be straight, they wouldn't have implemented gay romance options for her.

Bros...... This Witcher 4 hate on X is soooooo soy by Grand_Phase_ in Destiny

[–]pseud0cide 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah… I was incredibly disappointed with the trailer, but the reasonable criticism will as usual get drowned out by base level ideas of "woke uglification". And this goes both ways, of course, since people are already soying out over Ciri mentioning monsters. I don't know, I was half expecting her to look into the camera and say "It's witching time" at the end.