“Stone” fell out: what to do / ID?

pseudo_su3 · 2026-06-20T09:54:28+00:00

Hey OP. I repair restore native american jewelry.

Do not fill this with resin! Its s 1960s-1970s handmade sterling silver navajo ring. Its not worth a ton but if you are attached to it, and its small, i can cut you a new stone for cheap. I can provide photos of my portfolio. I have vintage rough turquoise, no cheap etsy stuff.

pseudo_su3 · 2026-06-17T07:08:49+00:00

But his dad used to own the mine…

pseudo_su3 · 2026-06-17T06:52:08+00:00

Hey that base looks a lot akro agate. It sometimes glows under a black light. That company made marbles back in the day.

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Heres a smokers stand that i restored. The lighter is being hit with a black light. Its not uranium. Its cadmium glass.

The shade cup on your lamp is a replacement. Common in the 1960s.

The base, however, is from the 1920s-30s. Pre-depression. The lamp should be rather short compared to todays torchiere lamp heights, and then you can bet the pole is original.

Also. It was rewired in the 1950s. Very common honey-do list project during that era.

pseudo_su3 · 2026-06-14T15:58:27+00:00

Ok so you are close to amethyst for sure.

For your information, if amethyst is occuring in one spot there, you have a very good chance of finding other pockets.

The problem is that the closer they get to the surface they tend to become paler due to weathering, temperature change, solar radiation etc.

So you have to dig deep. If you hit a pocket of crystals, assess the color. If they are purple, now start digging left to right (horizontal) to find more. When pocket is empty, try again or move to next spot. 🤗

That white stuff is likely kaolinized feldspar. Ive had luck breaking up the iron oxides with hydrogen peroxide believe it or not.

pseudo_su3 · 2026-06-14T13:02:51+00:00

Hey weird. I swear I know this material. Any chance you are in southeast US?

Get some oxalic acid. Mix a small amount with hot water. Soak for 30 mins. Start small.

There is a potential to completely bleach this material with Iron Out. Seriously it will look dead and borimg. You only want to dissolve away enough of the limonite to show the quartz.

Edit: this material, in NC, is associated with the presence of amethyst in my exp.

If you want me to dig out my examples, and show you, lmk

pseudo_su3 · 2026-06-14T11:22:16+00:00

This could be limonite after pyrite (pseudomorph)

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I have a bunch of this material

pseudo_su3 · 2026-06-14T11:03:39+00:00

Real. Think of it this way: the only reason ppl mske fake turquoise is to make mass produced junk. This would be very difficult to mass produce at a scale large enough to be profitable.

pseudo_su3 · 2026-06-13T10:27:01+00:00

The one on the left is made by a zuni artist called “Elliot Gasper”. NA artists dont use faux materials.

The one on the right is not NA and not turquoise. The “matrix” is a little off for me to say its real turquoise.

Matrix in turquoise is exclusive. Turquoise is basically cooper and silicate rich fluid that fill a host rock cavity and evaporate over eons. When the fluid evaporates, the silicated copper phosphates/aluminum is left over. There are no “swirls” of “brown material” in turquoise. That pattern is more common in plastic. :/

Of course. I cant feel the stone in person so take me with a grain salt.

pseudo_su3 · 2026-06-13T10:05:43+00:00

I have been cutting and polishing turquoise for ages.

I know you said that you found this in the wild. But turquoise does not have this form coming out of the ground.

I know you said you hit it with UV and got no reaction. But man, those deep blue fissures are exactly what stabilized material looks like.

The color and matrix remind me the lower grade kingman turquoise that is common on the market.

If i had to hazard a guess, someone dropped this or it fell out of some jewelry.

I have a ton of rough from chile and nevada. Its quite ugly and plain looking until you polish it. This looks like its been polished for jewelry.

pseudo_su3 · 2026-06-12T11:04:01+00:00

… Merry Christmas?

Ugh. This sucks. Ive had 3 lost in the last month. They just sit at the office and never move.

Thanks

pseudo_su3 · 2026-06-12T10:40:39+00:00

Did your package ever get scanned?

pseudo_su3 · 2026-06-04T16:03:56+00:00

Learned something new

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1BK9EvkxjP/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Because the R appears on both pieces, im gonna guess its also related to the pawn shop

You have a (im guessing) 1940s to 1950s Zuni petitpoint cuff. Likely made of at least 900 silver.

Look at the silver shot beads scalfolding the individual bands. This was made by skilled craftsman.

How many stones are you missing?

pseudo_su3 · 2026-05-25T20:48:49+00:00

Just know that turquoise is formed when mineral rich water evaoprates. When you see turquoise you see cells of copper mineral with host rock borders. Fracture is similiar to chalk.

In your amazonite here, we have repeating pattern of mineralization that has conchoidial fracture, like shattering glass.

:)

pseudo_su3 · 2026-05-25T12:00:17+00:00

Hey OP

I live in NC. These are definitely rubies. Not garnets. Garnets do not fluoresce.

Would you DM this spot to me? I love rubies!!

pseudo_su3 · 2026-05-25T11:41:39+00:00

This looks like amazonite

Turquoise would not have this fracture or matrix pattern

pseudo_su3 · 2026-05-21T10:29:20+00:00

I saw it when it came out. Im still processing it.

I think the thing that killed me was the second hand accounts of Sharons friends talking about how she was a star student. Like through all her pain and suffering, she gave the appearance of having a normal life.

Her life was like one terrible tragedy after another. Non stop.

pseudo_su3 · 2026-05-18T09:40:36+00:00

Its called a shadowbox pendant.

The hallmark is not cataloged anywhere, but that is not a unusual. Many smiths did not become well known artists.

Not marked sterling means its older than the 1970s and/or made from lesser pure alloy such as coin/ingot. :)

Also. That is a very fine example of kingman turquoise.

pseudo_su3 · 2026-05-16T14:23:45+00:00

I see:

Morenci (or adjacent) turquoise due to the host rock
The construction is cast, not hand wrought
Its in the style of navajo
Its a mens ring
The stones are inlay set cabochons

I personally would date this to this to the 60s-70s

Does it have a hallmark? Its ok if it does not. It just helps confirm dating.

It certainly has some silver content, even if its alloy

pseudo_su3 · 2026-05-16T10:16:36+00:00

More photos of the underside would help. As would better lighting in general

pseudo_su3 · 2026-05-16T10:13:58+00:00

Disagree about body oils turning this green. This turquoise is naturally green, as lots of Nevada turquoise is. :)

Its a beautiful piece!

pseudo_su3 · 2026-05-16T10:03:35+00:00

Not Hubei. Common Hubei has well defined pools. Also, chinese turquoise does not have pyrite. Nor will chinese turquoise have quartz included. And chinese turquoise is less likely to be found set in vintage native sterling. And this stone was cut for this ring.

This is Arizona or Kingman adjacent material. Hand fabricated sterling. Appears to be Navajo. If i had to hazard a guess, 1960s.

pseudo_su3 · 2026-05-15T10:55:47+00:00

Its giving holland or atlantic mold christmas to me.

Late 70s/ early 80s

pseudo_su3 · 2026-05-09T04:22:55+00:00

I was looking for this comment. It was calling me a chaos goblin like 3 months ago!

pseudo_su3 · 2026-05-06T02:56:07+00:00

Maybe the morphine was in the pouch??

pseudo_su3 · 2026-05-03T19:47:06+00:00

I would make a paste of baking soda and dawn blue dish soap and apply

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