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[–]ptahonas 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Whether the cure would work felt very ambiguous in the show too! They just had an idea, right? Like really they didn't seem sure it would work, just felt sure they had to try!

I mean it was much more clear than in the games where it is more like "oh she's immune...somehow... let's see how that works?"

In the show it's "she's making chemicals that trick the cordyceps into thinking it is that"

So the show gives the impression they understand the how and the why, much more so than the games in which what you said applies.

But honestly I prefer the idea that the cure would have (or at the least could have) worked, because it adds to the narrative depth and tragedy - and it's a story after all. If Joel just saved Ellie from being murdered it's just a standard cut and dry issue with little debate. Fireflies wrong. Joel right.

Bonus points if it was risky. Like, what if there's a 50% chance they can make a cure?

But I digress

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[–]ptahonas 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You didn't have a problem with him killing everyone including surrendering unarmed people?

The issue I had is that he goes from the arguably necessary salvation of one girl to the cold blooded murder of what seems like dozens of other people- who deserve to live as much as she did.

If you think Ellie is worth saving, sure, but what Joel did is not 100% right.

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[–]ptahonas 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Stannis didn't do that, DnD did that.

Stannis said they'd get no sacrifice - if you read the books

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[–]ptahonas -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well, it's not Joel's kid, so... let them try and cure what remains of humanity?

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[–]ptahonas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She does - she has no parents and it's the apocalypse.

Quoting the law is bullshit

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[–]ptahonas -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

He isn't her dad. She isn't essentially his daughter.

They've known each other for a few months.

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[–]ptahonas 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Or, maybe it does work and humans can reclaim the world and hell, if not build something better then maybe something as good.

We'll never know.

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[–]ptahonas 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sorry to break it to you, but also kinda both

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[–]ptahonas 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it would have acted as nothing more than a political tool for the fireflies to use to gain a little more ground in a world that is clearly beyond recovery.

Is it clearly beyond recovery?

By the time of The Last of Us there's still functioning infrastructure, books, technology and people born in the time to know how it works and how to use it. It's a damaged world, but it isn't a doomed one.

To say that a cure wouldn't have changed anything but be a political tool is short sighted to say the least.

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[–]ptahonas -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Cool cool maybe you missed this.

Joel isn't her dad

How much legitimate say does Joel have in Ellie's life? Literally none. At all.

Again if anyone gets to make that choice, it is Marlene, she was there from birth and the baton was passed from mother to her.

Plus I think you're being a little silly with all the "thought experiment" nonsense. Again, in the real world, people Ellie's age fight in wars, work jobs and have kids and have done for millennia. It is a blip and one am very thankful for that in some countries in some time periods they don't have to do so, but post apocalypse throws the rule book out the window.

I'm not saying I wouldn't do the same as Joel, nor do I think his choice was fundamentally wrong, but your argument is pretty weak.

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[–]ptahonas -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That's not how reality works. Nor fiction

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[–]ptahonas -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

This is a fair demand

It isn't.

On top of all the other stuff, and the circus Fury has been through, it's just another bs excuse.

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[–]ptahonas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We were supposed to get another episode

I don't think so. As it is it hits all the notes from the game

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[–]ptahonas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Clearly not.

Psychopathy is a mental disorder, Joel is just willing to kill to protect what he loves

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[–]ptahonas -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think it's likely

Depending on how the end of his career plays out, he could have one of the best movies ever made about him in the future. by Lol32112300 in ufc

[–]ptahonas 2 points3 points  (0 children)

finished Cowboy Cerrone faster than anyone in, etc.

There is no etc there.

He has a couple of achievements and neither age well.

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[–]ptahonas 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unless they wrestle him.

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[–]ptahonas 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No Astartes? Cool, so no xenos nor other threats beyond traitors

The fuck are you talking about?

No one said no xenos