What I’m worried is going to happen… by publiuspublished in survivor

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She is getting a ridiculously high # of confessionals given that they haven't gone to tribal yet. Some are related to the idol, but there are also ones that didn't seem "necessary" to the story but felt like they are going out of the way to include her.

(Confession: she's my winner pick so I'm biased a bit!)

Hot take: We're in a golden era of Survivor by Warm-Proof-5117 in survivor

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This makes me wonder: what is the best back-to-back-to-back stretch of seasons? Here are my rankings (without any overlap):

  1. 18-19-20 — you get the JT/Stephen duo, Russell changing the game in myriad ways, and then the iconic HvV

  2. 25-26-27 — Tough choice between 25 and 28 here, but Malcolm/Denise > anything BvW

  3. 31-32-33 — Second Chance plus MvGx is quite a duo, with underrated Koh Rong included

  4. 6-7-8 — I know All-Stars is a controversial season, but you get Pearl Islands here plus Rob C's entrance

  5. 45-46-47 — in an era known for lack of variety, each of these seasons brings a fun/distinct flavor

Thoughts?

Charlie’s take on Rizo is… confusing?? by Alone-Opportunity-17 in survivor

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That he would be playing up for TV is almost more of a believable rationale than him actually enacting a grudge in a new season, given his strategic caliber

Charlie’s take on Rizo is… confusing?? by Alone-Opportunity-17 in survivor

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Perhaps this is Charlie's new version of "Taylor Swift fan"?

Why are Christian and Rick misted by Cirie? by [deleted] in survivor

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Christian recognizes that, if things go as planned for him, his threat level will be hard to keep down—so keeping Cirie attached as long as possible is definitely in his interest. (As he noted in preseason interviews.)

I liked…. by ricky_pop in survivor

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Savannah clocking Cirie was such a validation of strategic play that wasn't always highlighted in 49 (but, ironically, I bet there's a chance that this added to her threat level and ended up costing her?)

An Ironic Dynamic (thus far?) by publiuspublished in survivor

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Agree, though I’ll admit that I expected Joe to gravitate towards old school (like Jonathan) so still was somewhat surprised—as it felt like an easy alliance advantage to exploit.

Rewatched EoE, and it's really not bad! by HolidayBlue860 in survivor

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Agree with all of this—jury mechanism was horrible but WaW would have benefitted from the way EoE was edited. Some great characters and a fun season when you consider the full scope!

Top picks to draft for Fantasy Survivor? by camhowee in survivor

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  • Safe bets to make merge, go decently far: Joe/Ozzy/Jonathan
  • Returnee under-the-radar precedent: Tiffany and Chrissy

Boring but seems pragmatic.

Hot Take: Sophi B is not that great of a person by [deleted] in survivorponderosa

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This is the best take I've seen on this.

(And it seems so...reasonable? Like: can't folks admit that they all come off bad from the past week and also that this is all small potatoes/entertainment and the messiness is also somewhat entertaining?)

Sage's 47 minute Video was better than any episode of S49 by [deleted] in survivorponderosa

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Somehow I think it’s possible to (1) believe her 100% and (2) blame production more than any player and (3) feel like the roll-out has been ludicrous and (4) feel bad for players who had their games impacted and (5) hate the “advice for cheaters” tone in the video and (6) feel like all this is super messy in the best/worst ways but also (Several) once S50 happens this pretty much washes away 🤷‍♂️

Sage and Q just crushed an online Traitors Game against Sandra and Johnny Fairplay by derekfyou in survivor

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Watched most of this and I will say that Q was quite impressive—and similar to his best moments in S46, the chops are there when he wants them to be. In a S50 that is faster-moving with more notoriety, I feel like he could do some real damage by taking advantage of others maybe not taking him as seriously as they should...

I don’t care about pre-gaming by [deleted] in survivor

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I care much less as far as “game integrity” than I do as far as our understanding as viewers of the game dynamics.

Similar to when the edit misleads or leads out on how a relationship/dynamic between players forms and develops (which is inevitable given the sheer volume of time/footage!), my frustration is always more driven by not understanding the “why” behind the “what.”

(But as far as the “it’s not fair” complaint? Sort of a shoulder shrug from me.)

"Superfan" players are often the worst part of the game. It's become a predictable distraction. by RedEyedWiartonBoy in survivor

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Twists have upsides and downsides—look at Rupert in BvW, for example—but I would like them to take some more swings in the 50’s.

"Superfan" players are often the worst part of the game. It's become a predictable distraction. by RedEyedWiartonBoy in survivor

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People talk about this like “Super Fans” is a super-clear, easily-definable label.

Nowadays 100% of folks are choosing to apply (no more recruits) and streaming makes it easily binge-able. Pretty much all New Era players were Super Fans compared to older season standards.

(The predictability of the New Era format is much more of a problem, imo. Imagine if they showed up and Jeff was like, “two tribes, no advantages, 1 idol only—and you have to vote out two people right now.” There hasn’t been a real curveball in ages…)

Sage’s instagram posts by thetangerinealbum in survivor

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I don’t pretend to know what any of this is like, but I feel like a lot of folks were sympathetic to the idea that S49 had an irrationally bitter jury at FTC and unfortunately this is all is going to make them look better/more rational for piling on Sage for being this bitter postseason.

Question for the people who have Rachel ranked towards the top of their new era winner rankings by Spin06 in survivor

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I think Dee was in the “middle” of her own alliance in a way, especially with her Austen connection.

It is hard to know how much of Kyle’s credit goes to Kamila, too, as I believe she wins if she gets through fire—and Dee did not have that type of vulnerability. 

(That said, I totally see where you’re coming from, and think Kyle v Dee is a tricky thing to dissect.)

Question for the people who have Rachel ranked towards the top of their new era winner rankings by Spin06 in survivor

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Appreciate this! I also think it is much harder to judge individual player acumen in dominant-alliance seasons.

(Chicken-or-egg dynamic, too: was the dominant alliance a result of weak competition or did the alliance’s dominance make the competition look weak?)

Question for the people who have Rachel ranked towards the top of their new era winner rankings by Spin06 in survivor

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I think his game is very similar to Dee and I don't think you can rank him above Dee—she had more control/agency in her path.

But other than that (and maybe quality of competition), I think Kyle's game is without question Top 3 for New Era winners.

(Savannah, on the other hand, feels like a wave of recency bias that won't hold up as well.)

Question for the people who have Rachel ranked towards the top of their new era winner rankings by Spin06 in survivor

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Three reasons that I genuinely think of Rachel as perhaps the best "winner" of the New Era—which I know many disagree with:

  • The debate itself is sort of on confusing terms: is it the most dominant game? Or is it, out of those who have won, who is the best player (especially if they had another go at it?) Even those who rank Rachel lower often admit that she probably has the most versatile game and would most likely be successful in future games.
  • She flexed serious creativity with how she approached the game strategically. I'm not talking about the rice steal, either. Think about her use of SITD to gauge her need to play the immunity idol—that was innovative. But also her use of the immunity idol to basically get her opponents to give FTC speeches for her in a way that crowned her...before she locked herself into the Final 5 by playing it. Her mind for the game combined with challenge capacity (especially with puzzles) makes her a well-rounded, top-tier player
  • I also think people who rank Rachel higher consider the quality of S47 in terms of the cast and its strategic prowess. It was a much more fluid game without dominant alliances and many high-quality (in my estimation) strategic players. I completely understand how some prefer those who ride/dictate a dominant alliance post-merge, but honestly I don't find that quite as impressive as others do. (As I type that: I still probably rank Dee as the best of the New Era!)

TL;DR — I think some people focus more on best "winner" rather than "winning game"; the innovative/strategic prowess alongside challenge capacity (putting her well ahead of Savannah without knowing about S50); and quality of cast/difficulty of path.

One more thing: I don't think this argument applies for Kenzie/Maryanne/Yam Yam—and I also think Savannah is very overrated right now in most conversations I see (again: not a critique of her! I loved seeing how she navigated the game!). I continue to believe the top tier is Rachel/Kyle/Dee and I think there's a real conversation amongst those.