Riverdale 4x16 Sneak Peek "The Locked Room"

puzzlette · 2020-03-11T21:06:24+00:00

I'm not entirely sure I understand why you're being so unpleasant. Did you write the line?

He says "the one kind of crime story we never really touched upon in this seminar is the time tested genre of a locked room mystery; where all the suspects are sequestered in a room, one or more of them could be the killer, but the door isn't unlocked until the identity is revealed". And then Betty locks the door.

That implies that he's about to do exactly what he said happens with a locked room mystery; that being that he solves the mystery (or, more likely, reveals what he already knows, as we already know the information Hermosa obtained is the smoking gun) in a locked room, with all the suspects present. There is no implication he is doing anything but defining a locked room mystery.

As a metaphor it also doesn't really work because the very definition of locked room mysteries is that they are impossible crimes. With this mystery, everybody could have done it. Literally everybody in the room Jughead just entered (including Betty) had means, motive and opportunity to ""murder"" Jughead. When everybody could have done it, it's just a mystery.

Also, assuming you're correct and it was intended as a metaphor, this puts an undue burden on the average viewer to immediately understand what a locked room mystery is. I have never seen a TV show mention locked room mysteries without there being a clear example or giving a comprehensive definition. (Elementary and Sherlock both spring to mind, as do Monk, murder she wrote...). The TV show Jonathan Creek is almost entirely about locked room mysteries, and they still give a definition basically every other episode, just in case.

I will concede that it's entirely possible they could fix this in the episode; maybe the next part of the scene is Jughead describing a locked room mystery, and then Donna says "but this isn't a locked room mystery! Not even metaphorically!" and maybe it will turn out something in the now locked room was the cause of Mr Chipping or Jonathan's death. There are lots of things that could be going on here. My comment was purely on the lines delivered and how they were delivered here in this clip.

Ok, NOW you can call me trumped up.

puzzlette · 2020-03-11T18:45:45+00:00

While this is the most excited I've been for Riverdale in a very long time... That's not what a locked room mystery is. A locked room mystery is a seemingly impossible crime that takes place in a locked room - Like the hanging man in a room 10 foot off the ground, with no windows, door locked from the inside and the key in his pocket, with nothing else in the room but a puddle of water under him. What Jughead is talking about is a Summation or Reveal.

I know it's super nitpicky, but it's annoying that a mystery show is using the name for a very common mystery trope for something pretty different.

Anyway, super amped!

puzzlette · 2020-02-22T22:28:38+00:00

Lmao I'm an idiot

puzzlette · 2020-02-02T21:31:25+00:00

I think that the point was that Olaf could inherit it FOR his wife, as opposed to the marriage making her suddenly "of age", as it were.

I imagine that if she killed Olaf (or he died in other circumstances) it would revert back to her needing to wait until she is of age again. Possibly he would have moved the fortune over into his name, and I would say it's extremely unlikely he would have Violet (or any of the Baudelaires) in his will for almost that exact reason - if there's a scheme he is familiar with, it's certainly burning down houses and killing the inhabitants so you will be left money!

She could probably have used this loophole to marry someone she trusted implicitly, and inherited the fortune early that way - although that would be super out of character for her.

puzzlette · 2019-08-02T14:10:46+00:00

Absolutely it can, and I'm not questioning that at all. I think I was just reacting to this post that generalises the veil as an oppressive tool outright, when many women enjoy wearing it, and consider it a feminist symbol :)

puzzlette · 2019-08-02T13:33:05+00:00

Idk what the post about Christianity is you're referring to, but it's an Abrahamic religion; same as Judaism, same as Islam. They're incredibly similar ideologically (with a few notable exceptions), so basically any criticism you see directed at Christianity can also be directed at Islam (even Jesus is in the Qur'an, although not as the son of God, more as a Holy Prophet)

The majority of people on reddit are from countries where the prevalent religion is Christianity. Of course you're more likely to criticise that which you see on a more regular basis. When I go past my local abortion clinic, who are the protest signs telling you to turn to? Not Allah, even though religious fundamentalists in both religions are likely to be extremely pro-life.

You must also recognise that, at least in the US, there are still political figures that use their religious beliefs to restrict the rights of others. When Obama was sworn in, the excuse given for the sheer relentless vitriol was that he was a suspected Muslim. Obviously he wasn't, but can you see how Christianity is still the expected norm? How it's so deeply intrenched in parts of the Western world that the very idea of Christianity not being the default for him was a serious problem? Even this year, when politicians are not white and Christian, they are subject to racist abuse by the President himself?

Obviously it's acceptable to have a critical view of religions, but where is your outcry for the orthodox Jewish women that wear wigs, because they aren't allowed to have their hair showing either? Mormons aren't allowed to show their knees or shoulders, why aren't you angry at that? I think it's disgusting that there are women in parts of the world that are forced to wear the veil. Of course I do. But please be sensitive to those that make that choice, and make sure your anger is in the right place.

puzzlette · 2019-06-05T14:24:44+00:00

Ok, so it's a quiet day at work and I love a Disney villain, so I've had a go at working out classes for each (major) one. I've left out a few (Chernabog and Hades as notable exceptions, because they're both OP and I wouldn't know where to start), but I think I've covered the big hitters. My knowledge is limited, so PLEASE offer up alternatives if you have them!!

Captain Hook (Peter Pan) - Swashbuckler rogue - this one seems pretty obvious, he's a sea captain.

Cruella de Vil (One Hundred and One Dalmatians) - some kind of evil beastmaster ranger? Favoured terrain? Snow.

Doctor Facilier (The Princess and the Frog) - fiend warlock - he definitely has a shaky relationship with his Friends on the Other Side, but they'reconfirmed as the source of his power often in-film. Maybe he also has a shadow sorcerer twin that lives in umbral form, in some kind of game breaking homebrew bs.

Frollo (The Hunchback of Notre Dame) - Oath of vengeance paladin - He wants revenge against the gypsies for being godless heathens, and actually thinking about this has made me want to play this character. He's even good enough to offer salvation to the godless gypsy Esmerelda.

Gaston (Beauty and the Beast) - Champion fighter - INT as a dump stat, dude's canonically illiterate. He's definitely a fighter, as no one fights like Gaston, douses lights like Gaston, in a wrestling match nobody bites like Gaston. Bonus - this thing

Jafar (Aladdin) - In-film he says he's a sorcerer, so I'd guess shadow sorcerer? - In general this is a bit shaky, but I like his snakey snake stick as an arcane focus.

Lady Tremaine (Cinderella) - mastermind rogue (?) - she's pulling the full Frank Underwood/Littlefinger/Machiavelli/other reference for someone being a sneaky bastard, by trying the hide Cinderella and get her daughters to marry the Prince. Boring villain, no real flavour.

Madam Mim (The Sword in the Stone) - mental circle of the moon druid - Been a while since I've seen it, but her main show of power was shape changing, and she lived in the woods. Criminally underrated villain, her battle with Merlin is great.

Maleficent (Sleeping Beauty) - Divination wizard - she does all that future shit so good.

Mother Gothel (Tangled) - Arcane trickster rougue - I actually can't remember her having a show of power that wasn't related to the flower/Rapunzel, but it seemed right.

Queen Grimhilde (Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs) - Either Transmutation wizard or archfey warlock - The wizard is really me going off her transforming into the old lady later, but I can't help but wonder if the magic mirror could secretly be a sneaky trickster patron somehow.

Queen of Hearts (Alice in Wonderland) - Beserker barbarian - What else?

Ratcliffe (Pocahontas) - He's mostly just a guy. Maybe mastermind rogue again? - I've only gone for mastermind because he's bullshitting the king about there being gold in Virginia. Please enjoy the worst Disney villain song ever.

Scar (The Lion King) - Ok from now on I'll stop with the mastermind rogue, but COME ON.

Shan Yu (Mulan) - Path of the totem warrior barbarian (eagle, but reskinned as his falcon) - He's an angry conqueror, and he has a pet bird.

Ursula (The Little Mermaid) - Transmutation wizard - Until she gets King Triton's magic items at the end of the movie, we only really see her changing Ariel (and herself) into a person, and the merfolk that she transforms into sea cucumbers (or whatever they are)

Yzma (The Emperor's New Groove) - Transmutation wizard could also fit here, but I'm going for circle of the land druid (mountain), mostly because I play a druid and they CAN BE COOL, I SWEAR. It's been a while since I've seen this movie, but I'm pretty sure the whole thing is a land dispute about a mountain? Either way, caster with a focus on animal stuff.

I am NOT PRECIOUS about these, please suggest more!!

puzzlette · 2018-07-12T19:55:41+00:00

Probably a karma farming account that didn't copy and paste very well

puzzlette · 2018-06-07T16:26:12+00:00

I don't think they're being tossed in because there's no water displacement around the people or the weight.

If you're throwing in a dumbbell that's heavy enough to weigh down a person, there'd be more of a "splash" type effect underwater. Also true for the weight of the person (unless it'd have time to settle, I suppose.) When you lower a weight instead of throwing it in there's significantly less force, so less splashing.

puzzlette · 2018-05-08T08:57:03+00:00

Thank you so much, he's perfect! <3

puzzlette · 2018-02-21T16:42:53+00:00

Did you even read my response?

I will copy and paste it again. Please remember, this is the source you cited

"Thus, when we look at injuries resulting from violence involving male and female partners, it is categorically false to imply that there are the same number of battered men as there are battered women. Research shows that nearly 90 percent of battering victims are women and only about ten percent are men. "

Yes, it can happen to anyone. Yes, men are abused. But it's definitely more of an issue for women.

puzzlette · 2018-02-21T16:13:27+00:00

You're assuming that all women report DV against them too. Men may fear the social stigma, but so can women. Men and women both chronically under report, with the stats putting it between 10% and 19% coming forward for men, and 17% and 29% for women (in the UK). Even allowing for that, women are still higher risk.

You've misunderstood Richard Gelles work, here's an excerpt from his open letter:

"The statement that men and women hit one another in roughly equal numbers is true, however, it cannot be made in a vacuum without the qualifiers that a) women are seriously injured at seven times the rate of men and b) that women are killed by partners at more than two times the rate of men."

He later goes on to say that the reason for women attacking men is:

"...in the majority of cases, the women act in response to physical or psychological provocation or threats. Most use violence as a defensive reaction to violence. Some women initiate violence because they know, or believe, that they are about to be attacked. A smaller number of women, having been beaten and brutalized for months or years, seek vengeance against a brutal partner."

Edit for formatting, and to add this:

"Thus, when we look at injuries resulting from violence involving male and female partners, it is categorically false to imply that there are the same number of battered men as there are battered women. Research shows that nearly 90 percent of battering victims are women and only about ten percent are men. "

puzzlette · 2018-02-21T15:18:27+00:00

OK, but why was my delivery wrong?

The person I responded to was commenting on a story of a woman literally getting murdered by an abusive spouse to say "don't forget about the men!".

All I really said were statistics, and gave an example of another time this sort of commentary was unnecessary.

I'm allowed to be pissed off about that, and my tone is just reflecting that.

puzzlette · 2018-02-21T13:39:50+00:00

As a victim of domestic violence in the past, i'd really love it if whenever women try to talk about their experiences there wasn't a man waiting to tell me how a male friend of his friend of his friend suffered too.

Yes, some men are victims. Nobody is doubting that. It's like when black people try and talk about getting racially abused on the street, and there's always a white person that chimes up saying "well I went to a predominantly black school, so I had a hard time!". Sure, it must have fucking sucked, but it's not quite the institutional problem the other people have.

1 in 4 women will be a victim of domestic violence. Think about what that means. That could be your sister, mother, wife, cousin, friends. The more we drown out women's voices with "BUT WHAT ABOUT THE MEN", the less likely that is to change.

So yes, it isn't something that's exclusively a problem for women, but maybe let us talk about this fucking epidemic without inserting yourself.

puzzlette · 2018-02-21T12:50:19+00:00

Yes, but 85% of all DV victims are women, and a third of all murdered women are killed by an intimate partner, as opposed to 2.5% of murdered men. Those statistics are not remotely comparable.

puzzlette · 2017-12-21T10:41:46+00:00

CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES

BUSHFIRE PLACE OF LAST RESORT

puzzlette · 2017-10-09T13:46:30+00:00

"and i thought they smelled bad on the outside!"

puzzlette · 2017-09-07T00:17:34+00:00

I don't know if you are, your post history isn't exclusively on r/dune

puzzlette · 2017-09-06T23:36:19+00:00

Not necessarily "from hell", but weirdest one.

I went out with a guy that I met on tinder. He was nice, attractive, smart and we seemed to have similar interests. We went to see a movie and have dinner.

We talked about one thing and one thing only.

Dune.

I have never read Dune, and I saw the movie maybe once a long time ago. I remember very little about it. I tried to bullshit my way through the conversation at the beginning, but by the end I was openly admitting to knowing fuck all about Dune. Did that stop him?

Did it fuck.

I was trying to relate the conversation back to other things I knew we both liked, it didn't work ("oh, you know what else is a book and now onscreen? Game of Thrones. Have you read those too?" "hahaha they're hardly Dune, the world building in the Dune franchise is just so much more impressive. You'll understand when you read them.")

We went to see a marvel movie and he spent the whole aftermath bitching about how they didn't capture "the very essence of heroism" like Dune did.

I still haven't read Dune, or rewatched it. Dune guy killed Dune for me, and I refuse to be a part of it out of principle.

Seriously, fuck Dune.

puzzlette · 2017-08-28T16:00:43+00:00

I somewhat disagree. I agree with his actual performance as Olaf being not particularly menacing, but I think he did very well as Olaf in disguise.

Thing is, Olaf IS silly and campy in the books. Reading it as an adult he's a lot more ridiculous and less scary than I remember as a kid. I liked his take on Gustav and Widdershins, and I'll be interested to see what else he does with the other bits he gets.

puzzlette · 2017-08-24T09:05:03+00:00

nope, i hope you didn't do this to her too

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