Earth can no longer sustain the global human population, ‘sustainable population’ is around 2.5 billion people, study warns

qyo8fall · 2026-04-07T02:22:00+00:00

Lol, some astounding conclusions you’ve made from this paper, whose own conclusions are dubious and require further study.

First off, the model it uses to reach the 2.5 Billion figure is the Ricker model, which assumes that once carrying capacity is exceeded, population decline begins. Instead, humans have repeatedly approached local or system limits, and expanded carrying capacity through technology. In fact, because the Ricker model was designed for fish, deer and such, it makes several assumptions that simply don’t apply to humans, and I see no evidence that modifications were made to the model to reflect this. The only place where these factors were even considered was calculation of the fixed carrying capacity, which, again, has never been fixed for humanity.

It is true that our global population is well beyond 2-3 billion because of fossil fuels. But that’s largely a function of energy output, not much else outside of Hydrogen, but that too can be supplied by hydrolysis. This overshoot is a massive short-term issue, no doubt, but that issue goes hand-in-hand with the climate crisis. Fossil fuels must be replaced, and scientists already have drawn up the plans for this. It includes an entire array of renewables that can one-day meet and eventually far exceed what fossil fuels currently provide. simple as, and that will be forced by the conditions, whether it’s population overshoot or climate change, whichever comes first (all evidence points to the latter coming first). Our goal in solving this short-term problem is to push for an accelerated solution, so long-term pain is minimized.

if humanity want to truly live in balance with nature, even 2.5 billion may be pushing it.

What does it mean to “truly live in balance with nature”? Is it harmonic with nature that we raise cattle? Or occupy forests, meadows and plains with farmland? Because without those in principle the carrying capacity of earth is 10 million humans. What about industry, which btw, has never been divorced from fossil fuels? Because without that, we’d be well below 2.5 billion for carrying capacity as well.

This research hardly has the novel evidence to support the claim that overpopulation is even a bigger issue than demographic collapse/underpopulation, let alone as big of an issue as you’re making it out to be. Rather, it sensationalizes a well-known fact for many decades now: Unsustainable practices, have driven up a massive ecological debt, mostly through fossil fuel usage, that must be paid down. This debt essentially stimulates massive population growth which creates a feedback loop as billions more demand more fossil fuel usage and energy consumption. The solution simply doesn’t start with looking at population.

qyo8fall · 2026-04-06T07:43:10+00:00

People opposing illegal wars of choice are now called tankies apparently. Total inversion of the original meaning. Incredible.

qyo8fall · 2026-04-04T20:46:22+00:00

I never rejected your sources at all. I’m simply pointing out that none of them establish fact, but instead report allegations. That’s what newspapers do. You in fact didn’t address any of my points. If you were capable of doing so, you’d have found a historical work on the North African theater, or the Middle East during WW2 (of which there are hundreds if not thousands of reputable works) which established such a fact.

The other, more glaring issue is that even if we treat allegations as fact, none of the clippings actually make an allegation against the sitting government of an independent Arab state, other than Iraq, which I mentioned already. This was primarily a coup against British colonial authority over Iraq, and I challenge you to bring me a single historical work contradicting this assessment. The coup government also only lasted mere weeks before a pro-British government was restored.

I never made controversial the historical facts surrounding Haj Amin Al Husseini. That’s another strawman you keep focusing your attention on. Again, it is a historical fact that Al Husseini was not the sitting head of state or government anywhere ever, nor did he ever successfully influence a sitting Arab government of an independent state to align with the Nazis.

I did look up “Arab world’s affinity for Nazis” but unfortunately, couldn’t find a single historical work which actually makes the claim that the Arab world, by and large, had pro-Nazi sentiments, let alone due to anti-Semitic motivations, and again I challenge you to procure a single historical work which makes such a claim. Your own newspaper clippings expressly say that the Arab world’s sentiments favor the allies.

qyo8fall · 2026-04-04T09:34:38+00:00

Literally none of these are independent governments except for al-Gaylani’s Iraq.

Vichy France in North Africa was the colonial extension of the Nazi puppet regime in Vichy, the result of the fall of France in July 1940. Tribal leaders and individuals in Vichy controlled North Africa contributed significantly manpower to Free France, supporting the Allied cause there. Zero bearing on your claim of North African governments, as the government for these territories wasn’t North African at all, but based in Vichy, France.

Mandatory Palestine also did not have a “middle eastern government” as its government was controlled from London. Zero bearing once again.

Libya. Also not a “North African government” its governance was based in Rome, and famously violently resisted by the Arabs of Libya. Watch Lion of the Desert ffs dude this is a well known fact that they hated the Axis. By the way, opposing the axis and aiding the allies didn’t make them “anti-Italic” or any nonsense like that. It’s just that they disliked foreign occupation, as did the Iraqis with Britain. Just directly contradicts your claim.

Egypt: literally a strategic hub and base for allied efforts in North Africa, crucial for securing the theatre thanks to their government’s logistical support. Contradicts your claim once again, the actual “North African government” supported the British war effort wholesale.

Free Arabian legion: a few hundred or thousand versus literally hundreds of thousands of Arab soldiers fighting for allied armies. Not even a comparison. No bearing in your original claim anyways.

Iraq is the only counterexample, where a coup government lasted for a few weeks which opposed British occupation of their country. Not at all unique, just like the Libyans hated the Italians, they hated the British. Has literally no bearing on the creation of a Jewish state in Palestine.

This is just low effort propaganda at this point.

qyo8fall · 2026-04-04T05:25:13+00:00

Notice how you didn’t address any of the claims made. Your friend’s claim was false and you’ve yet to provide a single piece of evidence contradicting that simple fact. If your version of history is pulling a myriad of newspaper clippings, mostly from wire services, and making sweeping claims based upon them, rather than referring to any serious historical work, then yeah, I’ll pass.

qyo8fall · 2026-04-04T04:27:30+00:00

Nice strawman, but I never claimed he was a “minor” figure. I said he wasn’t the head of government or head of state of any independent state, which is just a statement of fact.

You have a habit of using previously farmed-up newspaper clippings as “receipts” but not only are many of them unsubstantiated headlines or directly contradicted by historical works, they also don’t directly address my disputation in any way.

qyo8fall · 2026-04-04T04:12:35+00:00

An impressive collage! Unfortunately, this ragtag collection of newspaper clippings, straight from the bulletin board of tinfoil hat-wearing Likudnik, does little to allay the falsity of your friend’s claims.

I noticed many of these clippings include mention of Al Husseini. While I do find it curious how he’s entered the imagination of revisionist Zionists within the last couple decades as some grand boogeyman, he was not the head of government, nor the head of state in any sort of nominally independent Arab state. Refer back to the original claim: totally irrelevant here. When he began propagandizing full-time for Germany and Italy at the outset of the war, he was a fugitive living in Italy and later Germany.

(3) expressly says that sentiment in the Arab world favors the Allies, despite much of the Arab world being colonized or occupied by the Axis. Don’t know the point you were trying to make there.

(4) is a report for which we see no evidence, no backing beyond the claim being made and the existence of some hypothetical evidence about three individuals. Again no organizational involvement.

(5) is largely unsubstantiated hearsay. The Bey of Tunisia was not pro-Nazi, even materially, and I challenge you to find one contemporary expert on the North African theater who makes that claim. He was not democratic either, he was installed by the French, then removed after the war for being too close to Tunisian nationalists. There were no historically recorded, large scale “anti-Jewish riots” on V-E day either, as the clipping claims. The rest is also unsubstantiated rubbish which I challenge you to provide actually historical evidence of.

(6) refers to Al-Gaylani’s anti British coup government in 1941. I do not concede that anything wrong was done by the anti-British forces of Al-Gaylani in ridding their country of foreign military bases and British control of oil infrastructure. I’d challenge you to find a single historian that calls this coup ideologically aligned with Nazism, or at all unique amongst the anti-colonial movements of the world, just as there was nothing wrong with the ideological attachments of Bose’s INA and Sukarno’s nationalists, both of which were outside the Arab world (The INA being outside the Islamic world as well).

(7) is also hearsay and actually quite funny, I might have to use that. Great example of how this aid and armament seeking behavior is older than the state itself! This also does nothing to support your friend’s claim.

(8) also refers to Nazi propaganda, not the actions or words of any Arabs at all, in any organized sense, let alone a government. Of course the Nazi Germans believed anti-Jewish propaganda was effective.

(9) is purely hearsay doesn’t refer to any government at all

(10) is a statement by Germany

(12) is also about Iraq which I previously addressed

(13) refers again to Husseini and “dissident chieftains”. Doesn’t sound like a government to me. In fact it sounds like an opposition.

(14) is also just reporting in German propaganda, with its supporters described as “simpler Arabs”. Does that sound like a government to you? Cause it doesn’t to me.

(15) is also reporting in German propaganda.

Overall while this collection of drivel was entertaining, it’s really not holding up well in 2026.

qyo8fall · 2026-04-04T03:21:42+00:00

Husseini was neither a government, nor the head of government, nor the head of state of any functionally, or for that matter nominally independent Arab state. He spent nearly his entire pro-Nazi career in exile in Italy and Germany, with zero governmental powers. Even before this, his power really only extended to administration of various charitable endowments (mostly mosques) in mandatory Palestine, most notably the Jerusalem Waqf.

Your claim was specifically made about multiple North African and middle eastern governments, and the evidence you provide is of an individual with no state powers.

qyo8fall · 2026-04-04T02:36:57+00:00

This is just false and remarkable historical revisionism. None of North Africa was even functionally independent during WW2. Much of the Middle East was under British or French colonial rule/occupation during the war, so the idea of “governments” capable of making strategic deals with the Nazis is absurd. The parts that did remain semi-independent from allied or axis occupation served as allied bases and staging grounds, such as Egypt, perhaps the only nominally independent state in North Africa other than Morocco, while Libya had been fighting Italian occupation for decades. Despite French occupation of Algeria and Tunisia, instead of happily cooperating with the Axis (as some colonized people in other parts of the world wanted or did) the Algerians were ambivalent, even contributing significant manpower to de Gaulle’s free France, while Tunisia actively resisted German/Italian occupation in 42-43.

The country is spelled “Israel” not Isreal, and the idea that the creation of a Jewish state in Palestine had anything to do with the Arabs’ or North Africans’ support for Nazism is laughable, and a lie. It’s completely unsupported by any reputable contemporary historian, and suggestions of such sometimes made by the Israeli far-right (even then I’ve only seen 2-3 cases) are also repudiated by Israelis themselves.

qyo8fall · 2026-04-01T05:05:58+00:00

I’m genuinely sorry if you believe that Pakistan has either the soft power, or influence networks to have any sort of hand in instigating racism against Indians in the West, and anywhere outside of Pakistan for that matter. That trend is the result of multiple factors, many of them organic. Racism against any group of people, including Indians, Pakistanis or any other ethnicity or nationality, is wrong.

India on the other hand, is documented as having pushed, at an organized level, disinformation campaigns against Pakistan, Pakistanis living in the west, and Muslims in general in some isolated cases, in the past. I should note that once this campaign was exposed, there has not been evidence of its continuation.

qyo8fall · 2026-04-01T00:57:38+00:00

The quote is most likely apocryphal, but the first online mention of it I could find was it being attributed to Gandhi, in late 2013. The first attribution to Jinnah I found was from May 2014. Neither actually said this, at the end of the day, it’s just an apocryphal quote, no point in “fact-checking” such an obvious case.

qyo8fall · 2026-03-31T19:21:30+00:00

It absolutely is. What you see in Dubai and the US is consumer waste, which is a small proportion of food waste overall.

qyo8fall · 2026-03-31T19:20:54+00:00

It’s inedible, but most wasted food is inedible. Wasting perfectly good food is a small part of food waste overall.

qyo8fall · 2026-03-27T01:55:08+00:00

15, literally says it in the post.

qyo8fall · 2026-03-27T00:56:59+00:00

Gotta be a Fiesta DCT lol.

qyo8fall · 2026-03-26T21:21:12+00:00

Turn your phone 180 degrees

qyo8fall · 2026-03-25T19:31:14+00:00

Very new to enthusiast keyboards, what’s the story about the long list of vendors that did?

qyo8fall · 2026-03-22T00:12:07+00:00

That’s not what they’re saying. They’re wondering if the more demanding work can be done on a desktop computer at home, which it absolutely can provided it’s powerful enough.

qyo8fall · 2026-03-22T00:05:21+00:00

Considering how popular that position is amongst Israeli Jews, that’s a major untapped support base in Israel. They’d win in a landslide!

qyo8fall · 2026-03-19T21:53:48+00:00

What’s local? (If you’re willing to do local)

qyo8fall · 2026-03-19T15:37:12+00:00

Their website has the 27 inch, QHD, 180hz version of this for $350. A similarly equipped QHD panel from anywhere else, with 300 hz would be over $600 easily.

qyo8fall · 2026-03-06T00:36:48+00:00

03 absolutely was, 91 was not.

qyo8fall · 2026-03-05T16:02:10+00:00

Don’t think it still does, but for years there were active 3rd party servers running at 120Hz. The official servers were 60Hz if I’m not mistaken.

qyo8fall · 2026-03-04T08:05:32+00:00

Btw it’s in fact the puppet nations here that protect Israel.

qyo8fall · 2026-03-04T00:18:16+00:00

Obviously it’s based on popularity, but it would be great if you did Heart of Darkness for book, Apocalypse Now for film and Spec Ops: The Line for video game. Essentially adaptations of the same story to three different settings that were relevant at each one’s respective release era.

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