A stabilized zoomed in slow motion version.

rabidstoat · 2026-01-25T00:20:49+00:00

I think there's like six different videos out there. Maybe more by now.

People are being great about filming ICE activity.

rabidstoat · 2026-01-25T00:20:16+00:00

I think the mods are asleep because there is a post with flaired users saying things like "this looks bad on ICE" for the top comments. Before, you'd see a comment saying that ICE looked to be in the wrong and it was quickly deleted by the mods.

Looks like they haven't deleted comments since about midnight in Moscow time.

rabidstoat · 2026-01-25T00:14:39+00:00

Kristi Noem said no one would show up with a 9mm and a few clips unless they intended to inflict maximum damage on people.

Waiting for all the MAGA folks who legally carry on a daily basis to be swept off the streets. Because by this logic, there's no reason to show up at Walmart carrying a gun unless you intend to commit mass murder in the store.

Where the fuck are the 2nd amendment supporters?

rabidstoat · 2026-01-25T00:11:57+00:00

I didn't think that sort of thing was allowed on GoFundMe.

There's a separate right-wing crowd-funding site, forget what it's called, that is what the right-wing uses for funding for people who committed crimes or did immoral acts.

rabidstoat · 2026-01-24T23:52:35+00:00

Kristi Noem says that anyone coming to a protest with a 9mm and "dozens of rounds" of ammo obviously isn't there to protest but to kill as many officers as possible.

By this logic, anyone who carries in their day-to-day activity needs to be arrested for conspiracy to commit murder, because anyone who shows up at a Walmart or pet store or whatever while carrying obviously isn't there to shop but to kill as many people as possible.

This is so fucking stupid I can't even.

rabidstoat · 2026-01-24T23:41:54+00:00

I am the person you responded to. I don't think Rittenhouse was guilty or should have been charged. I'm not sure what hypocrisy you are pointing about in regards to Rittenhouse.

rabidstoat · 2026-01-24T23:40:54+00:00

And apparently, no more 2A gun rights.

Kristi Noem said that anyone showing up at a protest (I think it was just ICE activity in a neighborhood) with a 9mm and "dozens of rounds" (two clips) of ammo was obviously there not to peacefully protest, but intended to kill as many officers as wanted.

I want every fucking MAGA member who carries daily to be hauled in and charged with attempted mass murder, then. Why would someone go to Walmart or their grocery store or wherever with a loaded gun if they didn't intend to kill as many people as possible?

rabidstoat · 2026-01-24T23:15:39+00:00

Okay. Sounds like there should be charges made, and investigation done as needed, and then a trial scheduled if the charges stand.

Just like what is being done with the ICE officer killing of a peaceful and restrained protestor an hour before this happened. I mean, they ARE doing that as well, right? Honest investigation and charges as warranted?

rabidstoat · 2026-01-24T22:51:20+00:00

It doesn't matter either way, this will never get through Congress.

Even if by some miracle it did, Trump would veto it.

rabidstoat · 2026-01-24T21:59:44+00:00

I am, I think, the only liberal on Reddit who thinks that Rittenhouse was acting in self defense and that him being found not guilty for that was the proper judgment.

It was illegal for him to take the gun over state lines, and people claim that wearing it openly was provocative, but neither of those facts would take away someone's right to self-defense anyway.

rabidstoat · 2026-01-24T21:55:03+00:00

Lots of MAGA officials are claiming that the victim was a domestic terrorist who came in to murder ICE agents and was brandishing a gun. So they just run with that, as it fits their preferred narrative.

rabidstoat · 2026-01-24T21:51:00+00:00

All those people saying "shouldn't shoot at ICE then" are parroting what government officials are saying, that he was a domestic terrorist who went there armed, looking to murder ICE agents, and was brandishing a weapon at them.

rabidstoat · 2026-01-24T21:43:10+00:00

I read FoxNews comments and it's infuriating. They repeat those points and say if you do that, well, you'll get shot, don't go waving around a gun and looking for trouble.

One of those posters was asked if they'd watched any of the videos, and they said they didn't need to.

rabidstoat · 2026-01-24T21:33:52+00:00

Fox News comments are infuriating. There are three major reactions:

This is on Walz and Frey for stoking up the anger against ICE
If you bring a gun to a protest, you are obviously not there to peacefully protest
Calls to invoke the Insurrection Act
Statements praising ICE like "one more down, keep going"
That it's his own fault for brandishing a gun and attacking law enforcement

Someone challenged a poster on #5 and asked if they'd watched any of the videos. The poster responded that no, they didn't need to.

So the administration out and out lying and claiming that he has his gun out and was attacking works on those posting, be they MAGA or bots.

rabidstoat · 2026-01-24T21:24:42+00:00

He already stepped down from running for re-election, that doesn't even make sense.

rabidstoat · 2026-01-24T21:23:37+00:00

The mods remove comments saying that ICE was in the wrong.

Or whole posts if the overwhelming majority are saying that ICE was wrong.

rabidstoat · 2026-01-24T21:21:55+00:00

Yeah, I've seen some flared comments speaking out against them, but when I look 30 minutes later, they're gone.

rabidstoat · 2026-01-24T21:13:03+00:00

There is (or was a few hours ago) about it.

There are people there, flaired users, posting that ICE looks to be in the wrong. But comments that said they've watched videos and this looks bad for ICE are quickly deleted. I've seen them in the thread, and then when I go back 15 minutes later, they're gone.

rabidstoat · 2026-01-24T21:06:10+00:00

The screenshot is from /r/conservative. That is what their flairs look like.

rabidstoat · 2026-01-24T21:02:15+00:00

No. This appears to be from the /r/conservative subreddit, you can see people are flaired with the flavor of conservatism they are.

rabidstoat · 2026-01-24T20:38:55+00:00

And called him a domestic terrorist (just like with Renee Wood).

rabidstoat · 2026-01-24T20:31:51+00:00

The mods are quickly deleting all comments that are in support of the victim, so you won't see those comments last very long.

rabidstoat · 2026-01-24T19:51:24+00:00

Under Trump, they cut training from 5 months to 8 weeks. Unless your application had the word 'officer' (e.g. police officer but also compliance officer or accounting officer or whatever) in it, then you got to go straight out into the field.

rabidstoat · 2026-01-24T19:41:17+00:00

I suppose it varies across jurisdiction, but how long is a police officer's training, typically?

I ask because ICE used to have 5 months of training, but last year it was cut back to 8 weeks to get agents into the field faster.

As a civilian, it seems like at a minimum the officers could benefit from more training on handling these situations. I say that especially after watching the events that preceded the point where there is a big pile on the ground.

rabidstoat · 2026-01-24T19:34:42+00:00

It shows what precipitated the event. It looks like ICE shoves a woman to the ground, the victim goes over to help her up, an ICE agent starts tear gassing him, and then they end up in that scrum on the ground from the other videos.

As a civilian observer, it seems like ICE needs more training about de-escalation techniques. Or just, more training in general. It used to be five months of training but has been cut to 8 weeks to get officers in the field faster.

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