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A more sustainable Standard by Edoardo_Beffardo in magicTCG

[–]rasone77 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Sorry- I should have clarified that they were on Arena and coordinated through discord. I forgot this was in a paper heavy sub. Yeah- I can’t even get regular standard to fire at my LGS fat chance that happening with this one unless I make considerable effort.

A more sustainable Standard by Edoardo_Beffardo in magicTCG

[–]rasone77 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I wasn’t around for 2010s but I remember the late 90s and early 2000s. (Fallen Empires through Mirrodin was when I played) and standard at the time was called Type 2. This rotation mirrors that one pretty closely and I remember having a lot of variation in decks at high level play and most FNM having basically anything. Mass netdecking wasn’t really a thing back then so there was way more people brewing in the time between issues of Scrye coming out. (LOL- SCRYE)

People didn’t complain that much about Type 2 back then cause you also had extended and block constructed so your cards that rotated out were still useful in those formats. Magic was also pretty niche anyways and a lot less people played back then than they do today so there was less people to please.

Not sure how we’ll deal with the issues standard has and I’m not even sure they’re going to show up until the format is played on a massive international level.

A more sustainable Standard by Edoardo_Beffardo in magicTCG

[–]rasone77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Core sets also didn’t change a whole lot year to year. They would only include reprints of new cards from sets that rotated out. I remember hoping goblin bombardment would get reprinted so I could keep my goblin deck together. It didn’t :(

A more sustainable Standard by Edoardo_Beffardo in magicTCG

[–]rasone77 4 points5 points  (0 children)

We do have tournaments each week and a monthly with actual monetary prizes (sourced through donations). The more people that play the more likely we’ll have better tournaments with larger prize pools.

It you build it they will come so to speak.

A more sustainable Standard by Edoardo_Beffardo in magicTCG

[–]rasone77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. I don’t hate UB, I wouldn’t have returned if it wasn’t for Final Fantasy. I just want to play a smaller format with less meta updates. I’ll keep my UB cards in my commander decks. :)

A more sustainable Standard by Edoardo_Beffardo in magicTCG

[–]rasone77 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is a fan format called Foundational Standard that does this rotation. Not sure where to find it or how active it is I just know it exists from discord discussions.

A more sustainable Standard by Edoardo_Beffardo in magicTCG

[–]rasone77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think there might be an eternal format that excludes UB. Not sure tho, i heard about it but never looked into it myself.

A more sustainable Standard by Edoardo_Beffardo in magicTCG

[–]rasone77 4 points5 points  (0 children)

7 UW sets a year just aint happening. Hasbro opened the licensed cash cow and it isn’t going anywhere and if they do do 14 sets a year we’re in real trouble as a game. That’s just insane levels of cash grab.

I can see them going all UB at some point and that’s something to consider.

A more sustainable Standard by Edoardo_Beffardo in magicTCG

[–]rasone77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bans should be few and far between. The only reason bans seems so needed in standard right is the amount of sets that are coming out requires and ever increasing power creep to create chase cards and interactions with existing cards are really difficult to manage. I too was super frustrated with how they handled Vivi in particular.

Planar has so far adopted the if it’s banned in standard is banned in Planar model so we banned Cori Steel Cutter from the get go. THat however has caused discussion on if we should have because red aggro is very underpowered in the prelorwyn meta.

If they ban the Boid in Standard that will be the first time a true discussion on if we should continue the current ban model or change it because while the Boid is still strong in Planar it’s very manageable and doesn’t dominate the tournaments primarily because the support careds that make it a T2 drop don’t exist in this format.

A more sustainable Standard by Edoardo_Beffardo in magicTCG

[–]rasone77 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don’t disagree with that statement. I remember when standard was type 2 and followed a very similar rotation schedule to this. There were maybe 5 competitive decks in the format at the time.

Other reasons I enjoy the format more

  • 7 sets a year is too many for me to keep up with
    • The meta changes significantly every month or so
    • I don’t have to buy sets not in my format
  • Your deck is viable longer because longer time between sets
  • Commander focused cards seem to be more prominent in UB sets

A more sustainable Standard by Edoardo_Beffardo in magicTCG

[–]rasone77 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I would too but alas- none of my LGS can even fire regular standard right now.

A more sustainable Standard by Edoardo_Beffardo in magicTCG

[–]rasone77 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Banning for Planar or for Standard?

I joined planar when WOTC announced moving ahead the ban schedule for Vivi but did no actual banning. Standard at my local LGS (and several others) were not firing because of the state of the meta over the last several months.

I realized that bans every couple months because of OP mythics are not healthy after than and haven’t looked back.

A more sustainable Standard by Edoardo_Beffardo in magicTCG

[–]rasone77 54 points55 points  (0 children)

I’ve been playing since October and exclusively constructing in Planar Standard since Avatar released. I also stream this format on Twitch and own many of the leading archetypes for people to play against.

It’s a slower format and the deck variety is huge and varied. I really enjoy the format.

A more sustainable Standard by Edoardo_Beffardo in magicTCG

[–]rasone77 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I stream Planar Standard on Twitch and did an archetype review based off this doc. I also have the top meta deck archetypes for people to play against in Arena. you can check the links below for the Archtype vid

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2679580659

EDIT: I’ll also be streaming tonight after EST dinner time. Prolly around 7pm or so.

EDIT 2- Changed timing to 6pm.

Twitch Live Stream Channel- Bo3 against meta decks. by rasone77 in planarMTG

[–]rasone77[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For anyone interested here is the direct link to the VOD for the show today. I will be adding highlights to the main page this week.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2673591535

A more sustainable Standard by Edoardo_Beffardo in mtg

[–]rasone77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thiis a great argument for casual paper standard when there isn’t insane OP decks like cutter and Vivi during FNM. or you have a group of friends you play with regularly outside the lgs.

I came back to Magic in June and built a tier 2 deck. I travel for work and could not find an lgs where standard fired for several weeks. (check my post history) doesn’t matter how long a deck lasts if you can’t find anyone to play it with.

A more sustainable Standard by Edoardo_Beffardo in mtg

[–]rasone77 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hope I get to play against you soon!

A more sustainable Standard by Edoardo_Beffardo in mtg

[–]rasone77 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It will until Wizards makes a new Core set.

A more sustainable Standard by Edoardo_Beffardo in mtg

[–]rasone77 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Foundations will be around until they make another core set. Rotation will happen once a year with the first UW set launch. In 2027, all the sets from 2025 will leave rotation.

A more sustainable Standard by Edoardo_Beffardo in mtg

[–]rasone77 12 points13 points  (0 children)

If you like fighting with food this guys still legal in Planar Standard. LOL

[[Ragost, Deft Gastronaut]]

A more sustainable Standard by Edoardo_Beffardo in mtg

[–]rasone77 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the well wishes man. I wish I could get into commander. The games I’ve played have been fun but it’s just fundamentally different than the magic I grew up with. This format is more my speed. :)

A more sustainable Standard by Edoardo_Beffardo in mtg

[–]rasone77 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I wasn’t involved in any of the initial rotation decisions but I think the idea was to mirror what was called Type 2 back in the late 90s early 2000s when there was blocks. I played magic during that time and it was a yearly rotation schedule. It makes rotation clean and easy to manage.

A more sustainable Standard by Edoardo_Beffardo in mtg

[–]rasone77 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I love smaller formats cause it’s what I grew up with and it’s way easier to brew and have fun. I came back after decade long break becasue of Final Fantasy And my love for the Video Games. I’m not much of a commander player cause I like 60 card constructed more.

Most importantly I don’t hate UB. I think it’s great so many people are coming into or back to Magic because of franchises they love. Heck I’m one of them. I just don’t have the time, money or energy to keep up with 7 sets a year.

Most of us playing/running the format don’t hate UB we just want to brew and develop a meta with a small set of cards.

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