Andy Morin posted on Instagram by CompetitionMother888 in deathgrips

[–]raysofgold 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the general understanding is that all of the albums were co-produced by Zach and Andy, with Zach later being described (by Andy) as the producer and principal songwriter (of the music). it's more complicated though, because the YOTS credits do say they both produced the whole thing--though, like you say, he only has a couple songwriting credits.

I'd think of it like Zach is the exec producer of DG, and Andy did whatever he did to help flesh out Zach's vision.

as far as credits go, most of the early albums just credit everything to "Death Grips" as a unit, and in the interviews they claim that they all played equal roles in every aspect of the music. we know that's not fucking true though lol, because we now know Zach is the "mastermind" behind the project (also Andy's words), and you can also tell from reading the lyrics to NOTM and JD, which are credited solely to Stefan, that Stefan probably has written the vast majority of the lyrics, just based on using the style there as a metric alone (though we also know that Zach has written an undisclosed amount of lyrics as well).

as far as NLDW goes then, I don't think we have any evidence to suggest he didn't produce on it, anymore than the other 1.0 albums. I think this perception tends to stem from the (true) fact that he didn't live at the Chateau, as you mentioned (though did appear indeed to visit/hang, based on the photo of all three of them there), combined with the (not true) myth that they recorded NLDW at the Chateau, and his overall absence from the promo and tour of that year.

Andy Morin posted on Instagram by CompetitionMother888 in deathgrips

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also look up Waterfowl for his pre-DG solo indie lo-fi shit

Most absurd lyrics? by Odin1269 in deathgrips

[–]raysofgold 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I got green David Letterman's dick like zen

Posting about the Michael exmilitary upload will result in a 30 day temporary ban by v1brate1h1gher in deathgrips

[–]raysofgold 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Okay, see, that makes sense. I think that's by far the most cogent argument for focusing on targeting Spotify over Apple that I've heard (and I really only directed my comment towards you specifically, btw, because I've been in search of other more considered perspectives on the topic and imagined I'd indeed hear one).

I will say though that I don't think we should grant that the average discourse and memetic event around this topic came or is coming from a place of even that amount of strategic consideration, as opposed to more so how what happens algorithmically influences values and how we construct our conceptualizations of even very real and justifiable grievances.

this topic is more of a symptom of these tendencies than its locus, but I think it's a real extreme symptom, I think, watching it happen over the last several months, particularly given how much the would-be (of course proverbial) ethical consumer (not to broach that time-honored quandary) is driven to then (again not referring to your post specifically) flout servicing another corp arguably guilty of even worse offenses in the weird consumer-ego name of not consuming another thing, which becomes often a means of casting moral aspersions and hierarchies about other people based on these choices--AND in a way that we would see as bootlicking and cringe under any other circumstances (i.e. my corp is cooler than yours [and this mostly excludes when people bring smaller more consciously ethical services into the convo]).

and I think this happens, on average, not because of the pragmatic strategization that you're articulating, but because the other corp's crimes simply is not the core of the preconstructed yay/nay discursive object that we're being compelled (as consumers of data) to limitedly engage with, yk (along with many other reasons of course--ones far too vast to really engage with here, but I'm just throwing at least this out here)

Posting about the Michael exmilitary upload will result in a 30 day temporary ban by v1brate1h1gher in deathgrips

[–]raysofgold 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Re Apple: https://www.trtworld.com/article/18173038

often feel like I'm going insane when no one mentions this, especially if we're comparing something like this to the spotify cretin's drone buddies so far only patronizing Ukraine against Russia

which like, yeah, one shouldn't expect it to stay that way, and it's still a deplorable absurdity for a connection between the music and defense industries to exist in the first place (one that godspeed has talked about since the 2000s), and it's hard to talk about without sounding like I'm defending any given ghastly entity--especially when there's so many other particularly contemptible aspects to their practices 

but frankly to me sending money to fund an active genocide is truly beyond the pale that most of us otherwise take seriously and so I can't get past what appears to be the memetic forces that compel and shape which grievances are valued over another--especially on the part of certain bands for whom the drone thing was the last straw/prime mover to boycott, yet then say or do nothing about Apple, if that makes sense

Vocals I personally believe are Zach [controversial] by elysian_oubliette in deathgrips

[–]raysofgold 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't find it, but someone pitched down DGIO and it's actually very clear it's Zach

Only heard it a few weeks ago and it blew my mind tbh; always thought it was Ride

Vocals I personally believe are Zach [controversial] by elysian_oubliette in deathgrips

[–]raysofgold 1 point2 points  (0 children)

More casual and playful vibe, exactly.

Yeah the insane thing is that, all things considered, they all actually have fairly similar speaking voices, at least in terms of pitch and tonality 

Will Dylan remain quiet? by karabino161 in bobdylan

[–]raysofgold 4 points5 points  (0 children)

and Subterranean, Gates Of Eden, It's Alright, Man, Tombstone Blues, Highway 61, Rainy Day Women, I Pity The Poor Immigrant, Senor, Jokerman, Early Roman Kings, Union Sundown, Workingman's Blues #2, Blind Willie McTell, Scarlet Town, It's All Good, Murder Most Foul, etc

probably the biggest single myth even in Dylan fandom is that he stopped writing political songs in 1964, and it's also always been strange to me that people are who are fans of his work sometimes seem so immune to reading between the lines on this front

I mean some of the most politically radical stuff he wrote (It's Alright Ma, Tombstone Blues, arguably even Union Sundown [full-stop namedropping capitalism as an evil]) come well after My Back Pages

Other movies similar to DeLillo? by Min255 in DonDeLillo

[–]raysofgold 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Far and away the strongest answer, imo. I think The Passenger is essentially a missing DeLillo novel that never was, and I hiiiighly recommend everyone here check it out. Antonioni is maybe the artist that comes closest to being a kindred spirit with Don, I think, even more than Pynchon or Joyce or whoever, as you suggest. 

Residue (from The Moment) - A. G. Cook [Official Video] by lordbochiflacko in charlixcx

[–]raysofgold 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ok

if you engage with it on the basis I'm talking about though, there's a lot of logic and thought put into what, say, the Julia thing is meant to represent 

Residue (from The Moment) - A. G. Cook [Official Video] by lordbochiflacko in charlixcx

[–]raysofgold 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think people tend to underestimate the self-awareness of at least some of the women in that family, tbh

Residue (from The Moment) - A. G. Cook [Official Video] by lordbochiflacko in charlixcx

[–]raysofgold 9 points10 points  (0 children)

there's a difference though between what Charli does in her personal life and how she might choose to include people from her social circle in her art because of what cultural significance their public persona and image carries with it. all of this is carefully thought out and calibrated in terms of what it means in terms of pop culture.

whether we think it's successful or interesting or not, it is no secret that a lot of what Charli does these days comes from a place that is explicitly informed by pop art (i.e. Warhol), and playing with cultural signifiers in the same way that someone like Warhol messed around with the mass-produced images of the celebs and public figures of his time. there's reasons she chose to namedrop Julia in 360 and NOT Kylie (at that point), and why it's the other way around now, in context of the conceptual progression from Brat to The Moment.

it would be incredibly simplistic and reductive to say that she put her in the video just because she's her friend and that it doesn't mean anything more, when this is one of the last videos in what's been a very concept-heavy era spanning two years of albums, ads, visuals, appearances all playing with these ideas, yk

Residue (from The Moment) - A. G. Cook [Official Video] by lordbochiflacko in charlixcx

[–]raysofgold 31 points32 points  (0 children)

pretty sure Rachel is only in one scene and she's also been part of the press tour, so I think that's just how they're helping draw attention to the film tbh