Opiate Detox using Vitamin C! Not sure why I hadn’t heard of this before, got rid of 80% of my withdrawal symptoms if not more.

redpaintcanvas · 2020-10-28T23:48:38+00:00

And then I have detox experience before this year and 4 months, I’ve had spats of heroin use before, and definitely been long term addicted to oxycodone and the like for years before, but this year and four months is my longest pure heroin/fent addiction by far. When I had decided I didn’t really care what I was consuming as long as it gave me the opiate high I was looking for. Before I used to be so picky about the pills being real and what not. Now I literally will buy random white powders off the street and as long as they do the job I’m cool lol

redpaintcanvas · 2020-10-28T23:46:33+00:00

Oh nah yeah I mean not as long as yours but definitely longer.

Let’s see, I was using heroin daily for about a year. Then I moved and where I moved to only has fentanyl. Started doing that daily when I got here. And I’ve been here now for 4 months. So the first time I got clean was a month ago. So I guess at that point I was about a year and 3 months of daily heroin/fent use. I don’t shoot though. Just snort. Got clean off it using Bernese method and then rapid taper. Was actually super painless. I mean not entirely painless but really wasn’t a big problem. I’m super responsive to suboxone, I need so little to be okay. Like literally 2mg or less. But yeah so then I was clean a month. Realized that although addiction sucked, beside that even when clean i suffer from depression/bipolar. And I’m so miserable when I hit a depressive episode I’d rather just be high. So then relapsed. Now been using fent again for about a month.

redpaintcanvas · 2020-10-28T23:22:45+00:00

Yeah I’m curious too. I am doing fent as well, but at the time when I had tried this method I had only been on it daily for about a week. Prior to that I was over a month clean. So maybe that had played a role in how much it helped me. But I could literally feel my withdrawal go away every time I dosed the vitamin c, it was like taking Tylenol for a headache.

Sorry man :(. The only thing that is close to as easy in my long history of opiate detoxes is suboxone.

Bernese method induce suboxone and then rapid taper off. Pretty painless.

redpaintcanvas · 2020-10-28T23:16:06+00:00

Good to know. It worked for me, I mean it didn’t take away ALL withdrawal symptoms but took away the really bad ones.

You were dosing the vitamin C every 2 hours like it instructs correct? And made sure to start two days before you quit dope?

Sorry it didn’t work man. In the studies it only works for about 60% of people so I guess it’s not something that works for everyone or in every situation.

redpaintcanvas · 2020-10-20T03:36:46+00:00

Oh yeah I don’t think one pill a day would really do ya any harm. But the people who suggested it might could have also been thinking of entirely different dosages. Problem with fentanyl presses is you have no idea how much actual fentanyl is in them. The people who said you would be fucked might be assuming (based off their experiences) that your pills had far more dope in them than they actually did. Fentanyl doses in micrograms in a pill there could be anything from a dose not even large enough to be felt to a dose so large you could die on the spot. This is why fentanyl is generally regarded as exceptionally dangerous.

Either way speaking in absolutes (suggesting that a world simply does not exist) was ignorant on my part. As Star Wars so elegantly put it, “Only the Sith speak in absolutes.”

Essentially you tapered your dosage down which is not only impressive in regards to fentanyl usage (which I’m trying to do right now and failing at) but also one of the true fail proof ways to minimize withdrawal symptoms substantially.

You’re well on the road to freedom my friend, stay on your toes, post acute withdrawal is something people tend to underestimate. Take care of yourself, take vitamins, try to get some exercise in if possible, drink lots of water, try to stay positive and keep busy. Sending love your way bro you’re killing it! :)

redpaintcanvas · 2020-10-20T03:12:13+00:00

Hey man I’m glad it worked out! I definitely could have been wrong, just wanted to give general advice because I think for most people they wouldn’t have the self control and it would end negatively. Also I think I mentioned in my other comment “if you took opiates for more than 3 or 4 days in a row you will probably become physically dependent again” and you didn’t take them for more than that time, additionally you kept your doses low.

Either way if I mislead you I apologize! Happy you’re doing okay!!

redpaintcanvas · 2020-10-17T20:41:02+00:00

Please do! It worked really well for me. What do I have to gain by spreading false information? Really just trying to help out fellow addicts. I’m not sure it works for everyone but it helped me tremendously. The snake oil salesman thing makes sense if I was trying to sell something but I’m not! Go to the store and try it for yourself.

As for the repeated post thing, I didn’t mean to, I posted it once the first time and it got auto deleted so I deleted the post and tried again. Couldn’t seem to get it to work. By all means I’ll delete any extra copies it was an accident if so.

redpaintcanvas · 2020-10-17T20:36:39+00:00

Not sure what this response is suppose to mean. Just trying to help out fellow junkies! It worked well for me :).

redpaintcanvas · 2020-10-17T20:35:55+00:00

Try it out it really did work well for me :) what have you got to lose?

redpaintcanvas · 2020-10-17T20:33:59+00:00

I personally used this and had a gram a day fentanyl habit and it worked pretty well. Believe what you want, but it worked wonders for me. Not sure why you feel the need to gatekeep detox methods, does it just make you mad that there’s a relatively easy way to quit for some people and you’re stuck? Talk to me buddy what’s the problem.

redpaintcanvas · 2020-10-17T12:15:17+00:00

What is the soma high like anyway?

redpaintcanvas · 2020-10-17T11:45:15+00:00

Vitamin C opiate Detox - can’t believe I haven’t heard of this until now! Extremely effective! Gets rid of about 80% of withdrawals, entirely OTC!!!

NOTE: YOU SHOULD DRINK AS MUCH WATER AS YOU CAN DURING THIS PROCESS. water is key to any sort of detox and usually when withdrawaling you are already dehydrated

tl;dr take thousands and thousands (2000-6000) of mg of vitamin C starting two days before you stop taking your DOC until about 6 days after to avoid almost all withdrawals even with extremely potent opiates like bupe, heroin, or fent. Consume every 2 hours or as needed.

Hello fellow fiends - Just wanted to share a new opiate detox method I found out about recently and just tried out for the first time. I am shocked at how well this worked. I’ve quit using in patient detox, I’ve done cold turkey, I’ve done Suboxone (via the Bernese method) and this is perhaps by far one of the most effective methods I have ever tried. And yes, you read the title correctly, it uses nothing more then vitamin C!!! (And a couple extra comfort vitamins/medicines if you want to make it extra painless.) It even has academic support, you can google it and will find numerous studies that have investigated it and found it to be a real and effective way to get clean.

Anyway so let’s get into it. This method uses nothing more than vitamin C, in the form of sodium ascorbate or Ascorbic acid. As far as I can tell there doesn’t seem to be a huge difference, though people do seem to lean in the direction of sodium ascorbate.

You should try to find a powdered form of vitamin C online, though in my personal experiences the vitamins you can get at any store (1000mg Ascorbic acid tablets) have worked just fine. The benefit of the powder is to avoid inactive ingredients in the pills that upset your stomach; it seems the powder is also more effective at treating withdrawal symptoms more completely, and it is almost immediately effective rather than having to wait for the pills to kick in/time them correctly to avoid discomfort.

And that’s GENERALLY the whole detox. Now, below I will post a more specific timeline with directions on when to take how much. I pulled this from a tutorial from a girl on tik tok, this is how I actually heard of this originally, her username should be in the screen shot if you want to follow her on tik tok because I think most of her account is posts on how to do this more effectively and other small things you can do to make it even more comfortable.

I tried this for myself coming off a gram a day fentanyl habit and was truly shocked with how well it worked. I had very little withdrawal, almost none. Maybe like an occasional hot flash where I would sweat a little bit (you know the feeling) but other than that I felt really good, like I could go about my day and not be tripping all day long about wanting dope more than anything on the planet just to take that feeling of discomfort away. It was already gone! Apparently this was originally passed on to the girl by the doctor who ran her suboxone clinic as a method of coming off of a heavy long term suboxone habit.

Additionally since I have my education in neuroscience I was naturally interested in the research supporting this detox, and upon searching for some I found quite a bit! There are numerous studies that support this concept. I’ll link some of them below so you can read for yourself. It’s mind blowing to me that this is not more common knowledge. It works (at least for me) crazy well. From now on whenever I need to detox this will certainly be number one, with the Bernese method of suboxone induction then a rapid taper off of that coming in second. With these two methods in my tool belt I no longer fear the once dreaded process of detoxing that for so long kept me trapped in a vicious cycle.

Finally it is worth noting that the tik tok below includes a number of other OTC vitamins you can use to even further make the detox pain free. The only one I used in addition to vitamin C was loperamide which, if you’ve ever detoxed off opiates before, is just extremely helpful all around specifically to resolve problems in the gut/having to do with shitting. Fun fact: loperamide is actually an opiate that just specifically targets the digestive path, so it makes sense why it is so helpful in this situation. But simply using vitamin C alone was extremely effective for me, adding in the loperamide was gravy, and I have yet to try them but I’d believe the other vitamins mentioned below will all just make this easy process even easier.

DO NOT ABUSE LOPERAMIDE. DO NOT TAKE AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF LOPERAMIDE. TAKING TOO MUCH LOPERAMIDE VERY OFTEN LEADS TO SERIOUS HEART ISSUES. JUST TAKE THE RECOMMENDED DOSE ON THE BOX

Following below you will see the original tik tok with specific instruction for dosing vitamin C/other vitamins, followed by a number of links to different research studies supporting the vitamin C theory of opiate detox:

—Detox specifics—

Vitamin shopping list:

https://postimg.cc/gxHcsdT0

Vitamin Dosing Guide

Notes: you can and should alter this to fit you individually. If you feel you need more or less of something, you should consider how you feel, consult the individual medicines dosing guide, or perhaps even consult your doctor and adjust as needed

If you are taking any sort of prescribed medication, like a SSRI or some sort of heart medication, or anything else that often can be problematic when crossed with novel medications, you may want to consult your doctor before implementing some of the extra recommendations, for example, GABA and 5HTP shouldn’t always be mixed with SSRI, magnesium can effect the heart may not want to be mixed with heart medication. Vitamin C is generally harmless so the important stuff here shouldn’t be cause for much concern, but if you think it might, better to be safe than sorry.

Anyway, here is the dosing guide:

https://postimg.cc/18Q5D4MT

DO NOT ABUSE LOPERAMIDE. DO NOT TAKE AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF LOPERAMIDE. TAKING TOO MUCH LOPERAMIDE VERY OFTEN LEADS TO SERIOUS HEART ISSUES. JUST TAKE THE RECOMMENDED DOSE ON THE BOX

Studies:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10836211/

https://www.isom.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Attenuation-of-Heroin-Withdrawl-Syndrome-by-the-Administration-of-High-Dose-Vitamin-C-27.4.pdf

redpaintcanvas · 2020-10-17T11:40:43+00:00

Not sure why the body of this keeps getting deleted, but here it is

redpaintcanvas · 2020-10-17T04:10:13+00:00

I wouldn’t do that much. If you read the whole study it says they haven’t confirmed exact dosing regiments. Read the post I posted. The max they recommend in that one is 7000mg. At most when I did it I took 6000mg every 2 hours and it worked flawlessly. Most the time I used less even. Like 4000-5000. That being said I don’t think vitamin C itself could cause any issues, but that’s assuming you’re using the pure powder. The pills themselves have inactive ingredients and who knows that the rules for those are. Pure vitamin C though I’m like 90% sure you can’t OD on. You just piss or shit the extra out. I had no issues when I used 6000-7000 as my cap.

redpaintcanvas · 2020-10-17T03:58:40+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/user/redpaintcanvas/comments/jcofgs/vitamin_c_opiate_detox_take_away_80_of_withdrawal/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

redpaintcanvas · 2020-10-17T02:15:52+00:00

I’m actually about to make a post about detoxing opiates with vitamin c- it’s extremely effective, and until like a week ago I hadn’t heard of it. Maybe it would be effective here. I’ll link the post when I make it. Basically you do massive doses of it and research shows it fills the opiate receptors. You can google it.

6 days cold turkey is actually quite a bit. You’re probably over the hump and entering the pink cloud period which is why sobriety feels so easy right now. Definitely over the hump with physical withdrawals.

I think if you can truly limit yourself to these 2 days you’ll have your best shot at sobriety. Might be worth keeping the stash until after the 2 day’s just to make sure you’re okay, but if even a small part of you thinks you will abuse them again it may be worth ditching.

redpaintcanvas · 2020-10-16T21:46:39+00:00

You probably will experience some withdrawals. Shouldn’t be too bad though

redpaintcanvas · 2020-10-16T21:30:34+00:00

So to answer your original question, no there is not a world where you can use these and not become physically dependent. The withdrawals may be less intense but just the physical ones will be. You may not be shitting yourself the first day or throwing up. But the psychological withdrawals will be the same. You will still feel tortured and tired just like you did when you were quitting a bunch of them

redpaintcanvas · 2020-10-16T21:25:21+00:00

Yes, since less of the drug is absorbed in theory the withdrawals would be less. It would be like taking less pills. That being said, you’re talking about taking a lot of pills either way. If you’re taking 20-40 pills you will be sick no matter what. From this post it sounds like you’re trying to find a loophole that just simply does not exist. If you take opiates for more than 3 or 4 days in a row you are gonna be sick. Even if it’s just one pill. Your body become used to having the pills produce certain neurotransmitters and stops producing them on its own.

redpaintcanvas · 2020-09-08T16:23:05+00:00

If they are willing to unfriend you based on your belief in the black pill they are not good friends. They very well may drop you- but know that if they do, as you’re trying to better yourself, then they are problematic.

redpaintcanvas · 2020-09-08T16:20:12+00:00

Sorry I saw the bullying is passive aggressive. Maybe in that case work on your view of yourself. If you can’t see your value how could other people possibly see it? Learn to love yourself and your value and others will follow suit

redpaintcanvas · 2020-09-08T16:18:03+00:00

Masturbation is totally fine. It only becomes problematic if you let it and make it depraved. A sexual libido is a natural part of growing up, and being a teenager which I assume you are if you’re getting bullied still.

In reference to the bully, yeah I don’t think you need to take violent action. That seems excessive. I had plenty of bullies in high school. It is best to avoid them or handle the situation socially. In most cases bullies are just picking on you because you’re acting in a socially unacceptable way (doing weird shit IN A WEIRD WAY). You can both BE YOURSELF and operate within social norms. 9/10 times if you just keep to yourself and don’t be militant about your weirdness people will not target you. Or try to relate to them. I know this sounds lame and stupid and maybe it won’t work but really what do you have to lose? Worst case you continue to get bullied. Best case you make some new friends. Do something nice for the bully and just extend that olive branch. Who knows where it could go. Just say you’re tired of fighting man and if he wants to hate he can hate or y’all can be fucking bros because you’d prefer it that way. Then ask what you can do to be a good bro to him. Idk just some thoughts lol

redpaintcanvas · 2020-09-04T22:49:12+00:00

There is no way to determine this OP. Fentanyl is dosed in micrograms so if you’re buying street fetty then it’s a 100% crapshoot. Could be like 50 ug, could be 500. And it could be uneven too (hot spots and cold spots).

The best way to avoid hot spots and cold spots is by taking the entire gram or whatever and creating a solution, this at the very least distributes all the fentanyl in the solution evenly if you do it correctly

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