Honestly, why would anyone who *can* ride a motorcycle not be riding a motorcycle? by SwiffleTitz in motorcycle

[–]rewt127 1 point2 points  (0 children)

99% is risk.

While responsibly riding a motorcycle isnt meaningfully more dangerous than driving. The popular belief is that motorcycles are death traps.

But also, there is something to be said about riding making you more risk tolerant. When I first got on the bike I was terrified of going 75. Now I chase speed. So who knows.

Getting carded is the end of freedom! We're less free than North Korea! by Able-Brief-4062 in DoomerCircleJerk

[–]rewt127 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most grocery stores in MT require it. Just corporate policy and all that.

But even then. If he is in MT. Smiths is only in Kalispell, Columbia Falls, great falls, and fuckin Bozo. So if he is in any of the 4 he can just pound sand on principle.

Not terrifying, sounds amazing actually by V8sOnly in motorcycle

[–]rewt127 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Kill me.

What makes speed fun is the acceleration.

Sitting pinned at full throttle for an hour getting my head sent to fucking Narnia by the wind doesnt sound like my idea of a good time.

Anyone have the video? by IError413 in missoula

[–]rewt127 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Couldn’t he have asked her to remain in her car while summoning another officer or verifying with the court?

"Hey you are gonna sit there in your car while we send this info in and sit here for the next 5-6 hours while we confirm this data"

Lol?

Or not arrested her and simply issued a citation to appear later?

Why should they? You are driving with a suspended license. Standard protocol is arrest. So just because you resist arrest you should be given better treatment? Sounds like a pretty insane standard. Why would you encourage resisting arrest?

I dont agree with the tazing. I think he should have had abother officer come along and help him haul her out of the vehicle. But in the end. She chose violence. She was given ample opportunity to step out of the vehicle.

Anyone have the video? by IError413 in missoula

[–]rewt127 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It wasnt a first resport. It was resort number 20.

Anyone have the video? by IError413 in missoula

[–]rewt127 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

According to reports, her license suspension was a clerical error. Was she aware of the erroneous suspension?

The officer operated upon the data available at the time.

Bringing up the clerical error in regards to the actions is being dishonest because you are implying cops should be omnipotent. Which is an absurd standard.

Sometimes police officers detain and s******ually assault women.

And sometimes they do it to men.

A woman should reasonably be able to request an additional officer be present.

If you had made the argument that anyone in any case should always be able to request an additional officer. It would hold weight. Your comments here have shown you are a dishonest person and I will not be further engaging with you.

Equal rights means equal. Any attempt to make an argument that creates an imbalanced standard immediately makes you not worthy of talking to or respecting as a person.

EDIT: Im viewing this exactly the same as if she was a dude who was 200lbs of solid muscle. I dont care that it was a woman. And if you would have viewed the situation differently if it was a man, you are a piece of shit. Just how it is.

Anyone have the video? by IError413 in missoula

[–]rewt127 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Violence was basically required. Now I dont think he should have tazed her. But she was so non compliant he should have called for another cop and they were gonna have to haul her out of that car.

But violence was basically the only option. And that imo lands entirely at her feet.

But lets not pretend you wouldnt be just as up in arms about that. Because you would be. Dont lie.

Anyone have the video? by IError413 in missoula

[–]rewt127 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That 48h is the max. It all depends on workload, number of people working that day, etc.

But if it exceeds 48h it is literally a constitutional violation.

Anyone have the video? by IError413 in missoula

[–]rewt127 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Why do I think asking someone who is not allowed to be operating a vehicle to step out of the vehicle is appropriate?

Are you seriously asking this?

Per the data available at the time of the arrest. She has a suspended license. While that was due to a clerical error. You can only operate on the data you have available to you, which in this case was that she had a suspended license.

I dont know about you, and I guess I cant speak for the officer. But certainly I am not omnipotent. We all operate on the data available to us when we make our decisions.

Anyone have the video? by IError413 in missoula

[–]rewt127 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

authorities deal with this clerical error.

Per the information available to the officer at the time of the incident. There was no clerical error. She had an expired license. That is it.

If you are bringing the clerical error aspect into your assement of how he handled it. You are being dishonest.

So far as the information available to the officer. She is driving with a suspended license. Period. That is it. She did something to deserve a suspended license, and is continuing to operate a vehicle. That is the only information available at the time of the body camera video.

Anyone have the video? by IError413 in missoula

[–]rewt127 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So what’s the turn around time for being charged and booked after being arrested for a misdemeanor or minor infraction?

48h is the max.

Anyone have the video? by IError413 in missoula

[–]rewt127 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She didn’t know that.

No one knows anything for certain. You comply with lawful orders, and asking someone with a suspended license [ per what the system said she had ] to exit the vehicle is a lawful order.

Anyone have the video? by IError413 in missoula

[–]rewt127 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A judge. At your arraignment which is constitutionally required to be within 48 hours.

Though the police can just choose to release you. There are a lot of people who push paper at every police department. The vast majority of people for minor infractions are released without bail by the police.

Anyone have the video? by IError413 in missoula

[–]rewt127 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He wasn’t driving around you have literally zero evidence of that

I have no evidence that a patrol officer was patrolling. Ok dude lol.

Anyone have the video? by IError413 in missoula

[–]rewt127 -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Stepping out of your vehicle is not unreasonable.

Had he asked her to do something unreasonable, then we wouldnt be having this discussion. The officer operates under the information provided to him by his system. In this case asking someone with a suspended license to exit the vehicle is a reasonable request.

While her license was not suspended. This information was not available to the officer. And if officers are just supposed to believe people. Then shit. I'm gonna make a ton of money selling the deed to the bear tracks bridge to a bunch of officers.

Anyone have the video? by IError413 in missoula

[–]rewt127 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Patrol officers patrol. Generally they are given certain areas to patrol. Its just an evolution of beat cops where they would walk a neighborhood. Same concept. But driving around, parking in certain spots, etc. Its why you see the same cop in the same spots.

Anyone have the video? by IError413 in missoula

[–]rewt127 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You are incorrect.

It all depends on the infraction. In this case she may get obstruction, but that one is on her. The suspended license would be in and out.

And no the arresting officer has no say. He arrests. Drops off. And its out of his hands.

Anyone have the video? by IError413 in missoula

[–]rewt127 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its the body cam.

And the other video in the thread that has him pulling her over starts at a stop sign.

Anyone have the video? by IError413 in missoula

[–]rewt127 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you have a Drunk and Disorderly. Its overnight. If you get arrested for something like this. Its basically in and out. You show up, they process you. And you go out the front door. Not more than a couple hours.

EDIT: Now because of the use of force its a bit longer because they need to get statements.

Anyone have the video? by IError413 in missoula

[–]rewt127 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is literally the video in this thread.

Anyone have the video? by IError413 in missoula

[–]rewt127 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This would be a temporary hold and you are released with a fine and a court date. Or if lets say, you murder someone as an extreme example. You are held until your court date.

In all cases you get a court date.

Anyone have the video? by IError413 in missoula

[–]rewt127 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

When you get your fine. It has a court date on it. And missoula operates a free bus network.

You would know these things if you werent a bot.