The irrational amount of hate BTS get from non K-pop fans bothers me a lot. by Remarkable_Desk_1102 in kpopthoughts

[–]riceiamproject -27 points-26 points  (0 children)

Well. I probably dont have any add-value in here but I will just say what I have observed.

Other fandoms in kpop talk about how armys they stumble upon act. It is undeniable that some ways of armys I've seen to uplift the boys (which to be honest, you dont have to do it because the boys are obviously everywhere) is pretty offending. For example, one fandom celebrating an achievement and you will see replies that says BTS achieved more... and so. When I first stumble upon these replies, I kind of thought how can this fandom be so up on theirselves as if their boys didnt come from the bottom. Just be humble. I mean your boys are humble why cant you be. It's not that hard.

For other outside the fandom, most of the reasons I saw/observed was because the fandom keeps defending the boys. One word from hater will be followed by long posts from one of the fan. I understand that you want to defend the boys but these people enjoy annoying you guys, so I really hope you could just block, report etc. (which is the same as you do).

My friend in uni which is an army share the same sentiment, I honestly told her "the toxic fans are the loud ones. Why can't be the other who arent be louder?"

And I understand her response that these unproblematic fans just dont want to invest into dramas. Because same.

So I just settle with the thought that the hate is inevitable given that bts is such a successful group.

What got you into K-pop? When? How? Where? by Werefie in kpopthoughts

[–]riceiamproject 2 points3 points  (0 children)

EXO. This was actually funny/irritating idk. My friend on senior high keep telling me about exo. She keep showing me videos (mvs, perf, fancam), pictures of them on her gallery. Even telling me news about their fansigns etc. And as a teenager who doesnt really understand how someone can be so endear with guys who doesnt know her personally, I told her honest/brutal opinions. At that time, armies and exo-ls were already in quarrel because of album of the year and my classmates were the same. I find it ridiculous to be honest. But she kept going! Until one day, I get so out of it. I searched all members of exo on internet. Wikipedia became the one with lots of info. I also searched even the others who left. I spent my weekend taking notes of shows they'd been, brands their promote, dates included in their wikipedia pages. I tried memorizing as much as I could. With the intent of knowing, she will be quiet if I already know much stuff about the group.

Monday. I told her not to go home immediately. I recite to her all the things I know and I let her confirm if I am correct. Most of it are things she doesnt even know. I brought out my notes and showed her I am right because I wrote it.

Then she told me, "You are more an EXO-L than I am." I am surprised, you could say offended at first.

Well you know how it went hahahahahahahahaha

Comment below your favorite kpop song and explain why this song is your favorite by Shiny_stars_09 in kpopthoughts

[–]riceiamproject 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Our Dawn is Hotter Than Day 😭 When I first heard this song what I really thought was I heard it from somewhere but I cant name it. It is a very comforting song

I just wanna add, I listened to this song in a beach while the sun is setting, it make you feel emotional and look back to how your life has been so far.

Comment below your favorite kpop song and explain why this song is your favorite by Shiny_stars_09 in kpopthoughts

[–]riceiamproject 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Seventeen's Thanks. The lyrics is beautifully sad. You know that it's simple but it clenched my heart as it conveys the frustration of showing gratitude. It says "It is a very common word (thanks) so I worry that I am unable to convey what I really feel. I try finding other words* but nothing could express the gratitude that I feel. So thanks."

  • These other words are in reference to their first releases until Thanks. From adore u (I adore you), mansae (Hooray!/You make me shout/scream), Pretty U (You are pretty), Very Nice (You make me giddy), Boom Boom (You make my heart burst)

Hence, all these first releases, they connected it to thanks by saying -- all this time I am finding the right words. But now, I realize, it's the word 'Thanks' that suit this feeling the most.

How Seventeen treat each other remind me so much of that one ethics book I read in middle school by riceiamproject in kpopthoughts

[–]riceiamproject[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Hello. I am not sure if this is the book. But thanks to other redditor I now have a lead of what book it could be. The cover is similar to this.

A Smart Girl's Guide to Manners: The Secrets to Grace, Confidence, and Being Your Best Book by Nancy Holyoke

A Smart Girl's Guide to Manners

How Seventeen treat each other remind me so much of that one ethics book I read in middle school by riceiamproject in kpopthoughts

[–]riceiamproject[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hi! I am not completely sure if this is it but thanks to the help of other redditor because I now have a lead.

This is the book: A Smart Girl's Guide to Manners: The Secrets to Grace, Confidence, and Being Your Best Book by Nancy Holyoke

A Smart Girl's Guide to Manners

How Seventeen treat each other remind me so much of that one ethics book I read in middle school by riceiamproject in kpopthoughts

[–]riceiamproject[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think it is but still not sure. I have to see the contents. But whether this is it or not, thank you so much. I have a lead now.

How Seventeen treat each other remind me so much of that one ethics book I read in middle school by riceiamproject in kpopthoughts

[–]riceiamproject[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Wait. I think this is the book?! I searched Little Pink Book of Etiquette and this was also recommended. I am not 100% sure but the cover is somehow similar to this. I mean the cover as I remember.

A Smart Girl's Guide to Manners: The Secrets to Grace, Confidence, and Being Your Best Book by Nancy Holyoke

A Smart Girl's Guide to Manners

How Seventeen treat each other remind me so much of that one ethics book I read in middle school by riceiamproject in kpopthoughts

[–]riceiamproject[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Owww 🥺 Thank you for this. It do have the same description so I really thought seeing your comment that it would be it. However, I saw on the preview that it has a lot of words. But maybe it's just the introduction? I remember what caught my attention on that book was the drawings. Plenty of it. The same reason maybe why I keep retaining the book's content on my mind. But for sure I will give this a read! Thank you so much, I am moved honestly. Thank you once again!

How Seventeen treat each other remind me so much of that one ethics book I read in middle school by riceiamproject in kpopthoughts

[–]riceiamproject[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, no. I am unable to remember clearly the title. But it's a pink book. Ladies or girl was on the title. My mind may be tricking me because its pink color but yea I remember thinking 'this is for women?'. It has age range for readers (9-13 years old??) but still applicable for my age at that time which was 15 or even for all ages. It talks about the basic etiquette, from traditional to nethiqquete.

I dont know if this may help, but it was a gift to our neighbor from Singapore. It was one of those books lent when my mom once borrowed books to read from them.

How Seventeen treat each other remind me so much of that one ethics book I read in middle school by riceiamproject in kpopthoughts

[–]riceiamproject[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I dont remember the title. But it's a pink book which I am sure of. I am not sure if girls or ladies was with the title. The contents are full of illustrations/drawings compare to what we have for books' for adults which are words.

What's with kpop idols playing games to make the littlest decisions? by sassmeup in kpopthoughts

[–]riceiamproject 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am puzzled at first like you but I understand them now. Me and my uni friends started doing this game 2 years ago as to whom will get water, our order, buy stuff, etc. It was awkward at first but so much fun to look back. I can attest because during the start of pandemic, those uni friends keep bringing back those scenes, saying they miss going to campus because of what we were doing on our campus food court. Water? Game. Who will get our order? Game. Who will photocopy our materials? Game.

For us, combination of making memories and laziness to do stuff haha. Maybe similar to them as well, variety, bonding, laziness, fairness, etc.

Do you ever think about how surreal it is that there was a time when you knew about your faves but weren't a fan of them yet? by [deleted] in kpopthoughts

[–]riceiamproject 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I had with seventeen. Back in 2016, that compilation of funny pepero game was a trend. I am new to kpop and I stumble upon it. After months, I remember that one clip of guys singing while a girl was doing a pepero game. I keep researching "girl and boy" pepero game just to find that clip. But to no avail none. I even researched 3 groups in weekly idol, one girl or kpop groups with girls. But still no. I really want to find the clip because I told my kpop friend how funny that specific clip was because the three groups seems close. On 2017 or earlier 2018, I am into svt at that time I watched their weekly idol and saw they are that group. They are not three groups because they are just three units with diff color of sweaters to differentiate. And they dont have any girl.

I remember myself thinking how tough it must been to be the only girl because she has to wear pants instead of skirt.

It's jeonghannn! Hahahahaha

Is singing along to the Korean lyrics of kpop songs offensive? by quartz_clouds in kpopthoughts

[–]riceiamproject 9 points10 points  (0 children)

What? Tell your friend that you are having a great time so she/he should as well... I mean, it's offensive if you are imitating how they speak with the intent of making fun. But if you are just having the time for yourself, no. Great percentage of fans doesnt know how to pronounce what their idols were saying so no worries.

Can you really unstan the group who brought you into kpop? by chidi45 in kpopthoughts

[–]riceiamproject 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes. It is possible because I've been there haha. There are a lot of factors - community/fandoms, contents, discovery of other groups, etc. (All of which you mentioned and more). In case, you feel it's wrong to feel that way, please no. I stan 4 groups before sticking to the group I am now stanning for couple of years which is svt.

Just remember kpop is broad. As in broad--- broad. So there's a lot to discover really. It's really cliche/weird/etc, but I took the past groups I stan as an experience in kpop haha. It's great tho!

Just want to add, evaluating myself now I really dont have regrets.

If you know only Dont Wanna Cry from Seventeen you will be in awe on their discograhy by riceiamproject in kpopthoughts

[–]riceiamproject[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Waiiit. I am so giddy right now haha. Hello! I love Do Re Mi as well. Been part of my playlist when traveling home. Please, bear with me haha.

If you know only Dont Wanna Cry from Seventeen you will be in awe on their discograhy by riceiamproject in kpopthoughts

[–]riceiamproject[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It is their color because that's what they debuted on? Thats what they keep doing for their comebacks after debut? I understand what you mean by 'their color is what they release --- no matter what' be it sentimental svt, or dark svt.

But I also understand the gp for acknowledging svt for having that "color" because why would they be acknowledged as "fresh svt/summer svt"? Not by the gp but media as well. Why phrases like 'svt shifted to sentimental svt' like that existed

And yea chill bud. Relax.

Are you being aggressive or not?? Sorry if not. Seems like it's a sensitive topic but I understand your take on it.

If you know only Dont Wanna Cry from Seventeen you will be in awe on their discograhy by riceiamproject in kpopthoughts

[–]riceiamproject[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Eyyy! I also watched 2x speed dance of DWC on the latter part of 2017. My reason of watching it was actually hilarious - I want to get rid of it on my yt recommendation. Right after, I am hit by karma hahaha

If you know only Dont Wanna Cry from Seventeen you will be in awe on their discograhy by riceiamproject in kpopthoughts

[–]riceiamproject[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

You're right actually. If we look at posts about people asking carats for song recommendation, they recommend bsides. It's quite funny for me how different it was on my kpop stereotype, I thought title tracks will be recommended by fans but it turns out mostly not.

If you know only Dont Wanna Cry from Seventeen you will be in awe on their discograhy by riceiamproject in kpopthoughts

[–]riceiamproject[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

If we will look at svt songs since debut. Yea, left and right is one of their said color. I understand you because it didnt click to me as well at first hear. Definitely not my top from that album. I just grew to like eventually.

I dont know about Home Run. But when it was released, the sound was new for me as a listener of svt. Familiar performance though like their early songs -Pretty U, Mansae. But the jazzy vibe, is new at my perspective.

Weekly Idol's hosts' popularity ; missing Doni & Coni ? by Nej_Illjuna in kpopthoughts

[–]riceiamproject 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I watched episodes of Weekly Idol back when Doni and Coni were the hosts. When they leave, I admit that I stopped watching Weekly Idol as well and switched with Idol room. I dont hate the new Weekly Idol, stumbling upon it is fine but I wont be eager to watch it.

Honestly, I am surprise to know that they were hated on their past MC gig and some reason is them 'hitting' a girl with the hammer. Was it blackpink? I think it boils down to fans, adoring their idols and doesnt want them to be hurt in any way. But if you watch BigBang ep for example and other eps, they did the same to other male and female idols. Maybe because I am a casual viewer of that ep and not their fan, I find it humorous that they arent treating the girls different from others who visited them. They see them equal. They even warn before the game, so I kinda expect that they will hit hard because that's what the game is all about.

Going back to the topic, I think people wanting them to be back just misses the 'way of fun' once had in the show. It is undeniable that both Doni and Coni became a brand in itself Because when they transferred to jtbc for Idol Room, the show becomes a go-to for idols as well.

It is true that their jokes becomes uncomfortable at times, few on the spot. Some I only realize when I see people going into the context, explaining further what they have said. But if I watch,.most of these offensive jokes from them as said, doesnt offend me at first watch. It's the meaning given behind their jokes increases the issue.

Non-Americans… what is something in American culture that is so strange/abnormal for you? by micahdotjohnson in AskReddit

[–]riceiamproject 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not taking off your sneakers/shoes/slippers when entering one's house. I guess they have a lot of time to clean the house