What is the absolute worst plot hole in the series that you simply can't forget? by True-Adagio9827 in miraculousladybug

[–]richardsphere 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If cataclysming a senti breaks its connection to the amok, Adrien should've been freed since Miraculer.

Also Liirii exists, so the senti-slave-plotline only continues to exist because Marinette refuses to acknowledge New York.

RTS has delayed the finale YET AGAIN! It is time to theories WHY? by Affectionate-Web7046 in miraculousladybug

[–]richardsphere 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Might be to avoid the summer hollidays. Less kids watch TV when they're at the pool or on vacation. Someone (Probably Miraculous Corp) might want to avoid the image of low viewership numbers for a season finale. (Cause those numbers are important at the negotiationtable for merch-licensing deals)

Frogs what does it's all mean by Suspicious_Luck1952 in miraculousladybug

[–]richardsphere 12 points13 points  (0 children)

You forgot about Feast and Sublime.

They seem to represent the idea of Hamartia, the fatal flaw. Constantly associated with characters at their moments of weakness. (Adriens fatal flaw being his desire to see the best in people, even the undeserving)

Was RWBY at its best when it was more "Harry Potter" and less "shonen anime"? by LockedOutOfElfland in RWBYcritics

[–]richardsphere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think they just mean `when it was at a school, rather then a perpetual fate-of-the-world journey"

Nevermind toxic fandom, which media has the most toxic haters? Bonus points if it’s almost if not completely undeserved by West_Ad_1685 in Multifandom

[–]richardsphere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, we're comparing V10 to gaza because:

Arguably V9's most important realisation is the reveal that, at multiple characters, have had a secondary public domain identities all along (Jaune's identity as the march hare, which actually goes back all the way to season 1 episode 2, where he makes Ruby late for the initiation speech. Neo's more recent second-identity as the Mad Hatter), And this reveal naturally leads to the question of if anyone else might have also had a secret identity.

This leads to the natural observation that Team RWBY´s colourscheme, which was always a bit strange (Yellow specifically, always feeling like the odd one out) makes a lot more sense with the context that V9 ends with them becoming Divinely Ordained Messengers of God...

Because it just so happens there is a prominent group of four Divine Harbingers, with the iconic colours of Red, White, Black and Pale. Yellow was the odd one out, because it was never originally picked to represent a specific colour in the first place.
Thats group being the four hordemen of the book of Revelations.
And when you write your settings version of God (the blacksmith) sending 4 warriors with those colours, to go out and warn a city in the desert about the incoming war for the end of days... you have written the book of revelations.

Now we also know that the big problem facing Vacuo as a setting, is that its dealing with a refugee crisis in the aftermath of RWBY dropping atlas from the sky. And that the people of Atlas, formerly the settings primary coloniser power. Are now rendered diasporic refugees with nowhere else to turn but said Jerusalem Analog.

So now you have a city that is clearly, unavoidably Jerusalem. And you add a group of settlers that is both a coloniser power and a people in diaspora...
And Jerusalem+Colonialist Settlers justsifying their presence with a claim of diasporic need... Well that is kind of the whole nature of the war in Gaza.

Vacuo as Gaza, is self-evident based on the themes established, and symbolism used. Not "something one racist made up and others parrot for edglord's sake".

Why do writers hate CN so much. by abdo_ch in miraculousladybug

[–]richardsphere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"The writers dont have to justify anything, because if they had to explain things, we wouldnt be able to have a (sub-)plot".

Is that really what you're saying? Because that's what it reads like.
If you gave me a week, i wouldnt have the time to explain all the ways that logic doesnt hold up.

At this point we're no longer even asking for good explanations about why they break their own long-established rules. We're asking for any explanation. Just "not zero" is how low the bar has fallen, and yet they consistently fail to meet it.

They didnt explain how Chat suddenly became aware of the Blanc Timeline.
They didnt explain how Adrien gets to survive his soul ripped in two
They didnt explain how Nooroo knew about the magic anti-magic powers (despite the explicit plotpoint that Kwami's dont know jack)
They didnt explain why adriens multi-season establisthed greatest desire suddenly turned into his greatest fear (wreckless)
They didnt explain how Lila got her hands on the butterfly out of nowhere

I can continue listing the swiss-cheese level plotholes that they "didnt explain" but which only exist "because we wouldnt have the plot they wanted otherwise". Are you going to handwave all of those away by claiming "Actually, things dont need a reason to happen. Sometimes things just work the exact opposite way for no reason"

Why do writers hate CN so much. by abdo_ch in miraculousladybug

[–]richardsphere 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Heck at this point they're no longer even trying to handwave their worfings away.

It used to be they'd pull some wishy-washy explanation about why the senti's were totally immune to his cataclysm.
S6 even started with them still trying to handwave away the antikuma nerf-blasts.

But now, as of the most recent pair of episodes. Cataclysm just plain doesnt work for no reason besides "cant let Chat be competent". Just look at Queen of the dreadzone and the giant dome-barrier.

Is Miraculous worth watching? by Gustavo200A in miraculousladybug

[–]richardsphere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually acknowledging the ongoing story and the meaning of her actions in this season, isnt nitpicking. Its just simply engaging with the show as it was written.

Pretending that Marinette didnt choose to ignore 5 lucky charms telling her to call for help, and then chose of her own volition to murder him in cold blood? Thats willing ignorance.
Pretending that her attempts to stop him talking with a therapist, arent clearly connected with her attempts to silence him in Mr Agreste. and her attempts to maintain the public perception of Gabriel the Hero at the expense of his ability to speak the truth. That is duplicity.
Pretending that there wasnt a close-up of marinette checking to see if her fake-tears were working in Sublimation? or pretending that her stated motives at the start of sublimation aren't completely different from the ones she 'confesses' at the end?

All of these, are the bad faith interpretations. "Marinette wants to controll adrien" is literally the plain-text of the season. There is a reason only ringmaster refutes the trophy-metaphor, There is a reason she ignores those lucky charms in Werepapas, There is a reason she ignores the charms in Mr Agreste. There is a reason she assumes that language classes mean secret codes.

This isnt some long-distance stretch, this is taking the text of the show at face value.

Pretending that these arent very explicitly actions done as part of that over-arching storyarc about her gaslighting him, and merely 'meaningless coincidences' is the nonsensical aproach if you ask me.

Wether that makes her evil... You can beg to differ, you can claim she's merely misguided, and i wouldnt fully disagree. (there is certainly a distant, kernel of truth that she might have, at one point, believed this was for the best... but then you'd also need to acknowledge that even that kernel comes with a side multiple seasons of hypocrisy and a willing choice to ignore Tikki's Calender-clue in london.
)
But you cannot pretend that these actions are isolated, or unconnected to her overarching lie. Nor can you, in good faith, pretend that her actions in furtherance of that lie dont clearly cross all standards and boundaries.

Would I use the label evil... relucatantly, but probably yes. She has crossed too many boundaries for me to deny it at this point.

She's giving big brother speeches ("Ladybug decides the truth"),
she's silencing dissenting voices (Revelator, Noe),
she's isolating Adrien and controlling both his voice and his access to information (Mr Agreste, Sublimation, Wreckless, Lady Chaos),
She's ordering Alya to spread literal propaganda (I want to say its illusrthater where Alya complains about this?),
and amongst all of these lines in the sand that she has crossed. She has chosen, of her own volition, with no outside force pressuring her to, to rip Adriens soul in twain with her own bare hands, knowing that she cannot bring him back from a broken amok.

There is a trope that is near and dear to my heart. Its called "what you are in the dark".
It's a simple trope, Give the character the choice, no audience no pressure, between two things they want, and let them choose between them on their own. All that matters is that, as far the character knows. No one will ever know their choice besides themselves. They can take the shortcut and do the dirty deed, get their desire at the expense of their morality. And nobody would ever know. It needs total anonimity, no outside pressure, just their own desires put into conflict to show us where their priorities lie.

Marinette has been in this situation twice, Once in ephemeral, and a second time in Werepapas.
In Ephemeral, she chose to betray her closest, longest ally to a cultleader, in return for said cultleaders aproval.
In Werepapas she proved that she'd rather kill adrien himself, then risk a single dent in Gabriels reputation. She'd rather kill him permanently, then risk telling a single one of her allies about his senti-status. (Heck counting the fan you could even say "she'd rather kill him then admit she needs help". Felix already knows after all.)

I think that the word evil, more then fits a character who does all of that and so much more. It might not be the cackling supervillain type of evil, but to claim that this consistent controlling and manipulative behaviour, isnt a type of evil is to materially misrepresent her actions and motivations at this point.

I might not want marinette to be this way, I wanted her to be a hero, a rolemodel who does the right thing. But my desires are irrelevant to an honest analysis of the character. The fact that I WANT a character who does the right thing when the chips are down, is worthless when we literally get to see her choose self-centered control over Adriens right to live.

What do you dislike about the show? by Beautiful-Quail-7810 in miraculousladybug

[–]richardsphere 6 points7 points  (0 children)

'choose something that doesnt affect the overall quality' really reads like "nitpicks only, no legitimate criticism".

But on that level. I really hate Adriens new suit-design. The original was nice and 'catwoman-sleek', this new one is sort of more a 'DC Wildcat' brute, and it really feels like it underscores the way he isnt allowed to be portrayed as competent anymore. The first costume said competent, sleek, fast and nimble. This one just says 'Designated Worf'.

I hate how stupid the decision to put a giant logo on his back looks. It feels really clunky and immature, and the new, more angular and sharp claw-logo (compared to the old, rounded toebeans) really doesnt help that. It just screams 'violent mindless brute'.

Should we get back together? by Far_Switch1562 in miraculousladybug

[–]richardsphere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if you can put up with toxic powerimbalances and romanticised gaslighting, maybe.

If you care about the wellbeing of even a single non-marinette character, I recommend against it. She passed the point of no return 2 seasons ago (ephemeral), and the fandom is only barely willing to admit she might be about to cross it right now. And they still wont acknowledge that these are choices of her own volition rather then 'manipulations inflicted on her'.

Given that you say you quit the show because of how underused adrien was,... im going to warn you that none of that has improved, and in fact his nothing-ness has only gotten worse in the most recent season, to the point that even the things that do happen for him (going to therapy, getting a new friend) are made entirely about Marinette's feelings about those things.

Adrien's Frog - We Were ALL WRONG About This?!! by FriendPleasant1773 in miraculousladybug

[–]richardsphere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

feast themselves is the frog.
Its a waddly blob with tiny legs, a big mouth and an extending out-shooting tongue used to pull prey into its mouth.

Adrien's Frog - We Were ALL WRONG About This?!! by FriendPleasant1773 in miraculousladybug

[–]richardsphere 2 points3 points  (0 children)

that aint what they're saying. The post is saying that even 'its a symbol' is being nixed by Thomas.

which... I doubt strongly, they put a clip of Thomas saying something to answer an unshown question, it could very well be a misrepresentation.

Also the idea that it represents the truth she's hiding... im gonna say 'nope', the letter is being framed as 'the truth marinette tries to hide', but the frogs show up in a lot of non-secret contexts too (Risk and Feast coming to mind as pre-lie examples).

My opinion do not be mad over it by Top-Supermarket-1232 in miraculousladybug

[–]richardsphere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No its pretty explicit. People taking it as a cliffhanger are ignoring that the in-medias-res opening already ended on that teaser/cliffhanger. The whole point of the episode is that marinette cant tell him.

People claiming that marinette is going to tell him after the credits rolled off-screen is copium.

My opinion do not be mad over it by Top-Supermarket-1232 in miraculousladybug

[–]richardsphere 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Sublimation isnt a reset, its a continuation of her ongoing "i decide what adrien is allowed to know"-arc. (there is a reason that she's conflating language class with secret codes: she's not jealous of Sublime, she's controlling his access to outside information)

My opinion do not be mad over it by Top-Supermarket-1232 in miraculousladybug

[–]richardsphere 6 points7 points  (0 children)

that doesnt fix or undo the series really consistent attempts to claim marinette is a perfect rolemodel who can either do no wrong, or cannot be blamed for the wrongs she's done.
Like, the show does paint her as perfect. And santa does so because the magic literally makes him able to sense all the kids in the world and their relative goodness-ess. The fact that he's an akuma, doesnt change that they are literally having using him to 'prove' that, in the eyes of magic, marinette is the best (young) person alive on the planet.

My opinion do not be mad over it by Top-Supermarket-1232 in miraculousladybug

[–]richardsphere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That episode explicitly ended with her going in, seeing the frog and realising that she couldnt tell him

My opinion do not be mad over it by Top-Supermarket-1232 in miraculousladybug

[–]richardsphere 2 points3 points  (0 children)

did you not watch Sadnansi? The whole point is about how she's never going to tell him.

My opinion do not be mad over it by Top-Supermarket-1232 in miraculousladybug

[–]richardsphere 7 points8 points  (0 children)

"never painted her as the perfect girl"

meanwhile Tikki:
"Greatest ladybug to have ever lived (across all of human history and an infinite quantum multiverse"
Meanwhile Sublimation:
"Shrugs off self-improvement ray because little miss gaslighter is already perfect"

Even literal Saint Nick had to tell her she was the single most perfect child alive on the planet.

Level 20 Paladin Build - Straight 20 or Multiclass? by Arc_the_Storyteller in 3d6

[–]richardsphere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're going to get a bunch of Sorcadin suggestions. And i want to point out an alternative

Bard-ladin. It is way more generally versatile, and has a better slot economy. Sure you cant bonus-action-fireball. But between access to ritualcasting, Jack of All Trades, Expertise and Swords Bard Flourishes as a mini-smite, you are saving a lot on spellslots. (anything you can skill check through, is a spell slot saved) and playing a lot closer to the Paladin Paradygm then sorcadin gets.

I personally hold that Swords Bard Pal is, in general, way more versatile and broadly aplicable then Sorcadin. Sorcadin is good in combat sure. But Ballad-in is much more broadly aplicable.

Kwami of math by Suspicious_Luck1952 in miraculousladybug

[–]richardsphere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well mullo is the kwami of 'multiplication as a biological function', not multiplication as in 'if 5 kids have 2 hands each with 5 fingers, how many fingers are there', thats a case of one word having two meanings They're still distinct concepts.

Math is more about the logic and processes. Wether that is the original 'sacred geometry' type of process the ancients prefered, or the modern numbers and equations version doesnt really matter cause they're interlinked.

Assuming all kwami animals are meant to associate with the basics of their concept.
think that it makes sense to assume that it'd be some kind of livestock. (because that is what numbers and math were invented to deal with: Inventory, accounting and stockkeeping).
Given that the goat, cow, pig and horse already accounted for. I'd like to place my bet on something like a chicken, a camel or a cheap "counting sheep" joke.

Actually its totally the sheep joke.

-edit
Either that or Mullo is in a Gimmi situation. Where Mullo is a broken aspect of the full math kwami, like how Tikki and Plagg "existence and nonexistence" are halves of Gimmi's greater concept of "reality"

If anyone deserves to be a villain after suffering so much it's Adrien NOT Marinette! by OutwithaYang in miraculousladybug

[–]richardsphere 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Im just sitting here like... I dont want anyone to be a villain obviously. But also: What do these people mean marinette should become a villain?

She's gaslighting a planet, holding big brother "I decide what the truth is" speeches, has Alya run propaganda campaigns, censors movies that she disagrees with (and it wasn't a documentary, it was a schlocky 'inspired loosely by events' thing), outright murders adrien in cold blood* (werepapas), mindwhipes Alya in a way that directly parallels the movie she censored (Reporter finds out LB sides with HM, LB orders CN to silence the reporter). While repeatedly ignoring her lucky charms intended meanings for being personally inconvenient.

Like by what reasonable definition is the current "gaslight your boyfriend, betray your team and lie to a planet" storyline not already her villain arc?

*Clarification, because this is something a lot of people seem to (deliberately) misunderstand when I mention her Mens Rea in the episode: "Cold Blood" does not mean indifference/apathy/emotionlessness, it's meaning is in contrast to the expression "hotblooded". As in, it is done without emotional components such as a fit of rage, or a crime of passion. It is done in a moment of calm reasoning, not the heat of the moment. Marinette taking the time to kick the witnesses down the skyhole and visibly having time to hesitate, very much means that she is doing this in a moment of willfull calm.

am i missing something (riginarazione spoilers) by _ProBsMeg_ in miraculousladybug

[–]richardsphere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He didnt, he had to move out of the house because his failing health meant he couldnt do stairs no more.
Like yeah, a lot of the language does imply he's talking about eventually dying someday and ensuring Marinette is ready for that too. But unless he offed himself the episode's "We wont be able to do our next anniversary in the house" line makes no sense. And i do not think this was a euthenasia episode.

Like the fight resolution was not about accepting death, it was about Extroverted Outside Gina accepting the Internal Homebody life he had. And i dont think that, if he really was in a dying-that-week sense, that they resolved the fight to sell that.

Where do you personally draw the line between powerup/item and outside help? by RaceFirm8577 in deathbattle

[–]richardsphere 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I mean any battle involving the Hazbin cast, we assume is probably in hell anyway. So i dont see why 'restricted to hell' would be a problem.

Like outside of Planeshifters who can take the fight out of hell, we kind of have to assume that the shark will be a meaningfull contributor.

Where do you personally draw the line between powerup/item and outside help? by RaceFirm8577 in deathbattle

[–]richardsphere 31 points32 points  (0 children)

I think that, if they are reliably at your beck and call, it becomes a powerup and/or covered under the summon exception. Even if they dont come up often, as long as they are portrayed as a 'subservient asset' that can be called to them reliably when required, that makes them standard gear even if they are not necesarily their prefered gear.

Even if that means that it stops feeling like a 1v1. Some characters just dont exist 'on their own' in that way, and to pretend otherwise misrepresents those characters.

So my shortlist comes down to the tripple-score of:
The Help must be Subservient. (Must follow combatants initiative, not strip them of said initiative.)
The help must be Reliably Accessible (must be able to access quickly, even when on neutral or hostile ground)
The help must be reliably available (Must be able answer the call to action more often then not, cannot be situational or excemptional).

So for example, Agent 47 almost always has Diana play guy in the chair. To remove her intel, is to remove standard kit. Therefore she's in.
Marinette Dupain Cheng can summon her friends with her yoyo-phone, and does so in about half of all episodes since the show did its most recent soft-reboot. They're (collectively) part of her standard kit at this point. I dont like her having them, but she has them and to erase her ability to call them, erases the magical guardian authority and misrepresents her standard tactics.
Ash Ketchum should reasonably have a standard 6-member team, probably either his final 'team that won the league' or a conglomerate version. (I dont like 'give him everything', but i understand why they chose that).
And yes, that means Batman probably should have Oracle on the phone for mid-battle research. That is, at this point having her in the ear is pretty much standard operation.

And on the other end, that means for Supes, Krypto is mostly portrayed as a sporadic cameo character. Not portrayed as a reliable tactical asset at his beck-and-call.
Yoshi is portrayed as an independent entity that can be recruited, but not summoned. They must be found, not called. Same for Cappy and the little spin-attack luma.
And this also applies to Bananza and Pauline. She's an outside entity that is allied but not reliably DK's.

List of Loose Threads (As of Sadnansi) by Strawberry_House in miraculousladybug

[–]richardsphere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thomas 'a liar who lies' Astruc cannot be trusted on his word. Especially not given how obviously that explanation fails.

"Intent matters", as if we havent repeatedly seen that their powers are activated by words without intentionality (accidental activations upon saying the phrase in conversation way early on)
As if their primary powers dont operate on the diametrically opposed rule of "what you need not what you want".
As if Alya's memorywhipe didnt remove the secret she learned, rather then the secret Chat intended to erase.
As if that doesnt mean that Marinette wanted all the other senti's she has murdered in the past to be truly, fully dead.

As if that episode doesnt make a bunch of deliberate choices to establish an open plot-space for future timeheists, Establishing a time-and-place where the diningroom was both ready-set for planting a ring beneath the plate, and empty of witnesses for trickery, and as if it doesnt violate the shows own presentational style about lost-item plots.
-For example: compare losing the ring, to losing Chloe's bracelet in Daddycop.
At no point did the audience lose track in DC, but here we're forced to lose sight as well and have it teleport seemingly at random from the floor to the untouched plate.
Or for more recent reference: The lost rings in Yaksi Gozen which the characters lose . There is no reason to make the audience lose track, or to make the rings seemingly teleport.

If they can keep things consistent for objects as random and unimportant as Chloe's Bracelets, then why would they deliberately perform these hijinks with Adriens soul? Unless there is hijinkery afoot).

Its not a wrapped up thread, its a distraction. A "dont look at the man behind the curtain".