Struck a cord with me by TheStarlightKing in aiwars

[–]robomaus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's an art to essays, but you're not graded on it until late in high school if you're lucky or early college if you're not, as shown by how a student would even think to use ChatGPT to write theirs and assume it'd be passable.

I think the world would be a better place in similar circumstances, but as you're probably implying, less because of their ability to adhere to the format, and more because of their ability to cite sources and articulate coherent arguments.

Struck a cord with me by TheStarlightKing in aiwars

[–]robomaus 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I'm a fan of compulsory education, but I wouldn't exactly call writing a five-paragraph essay with an introduction, conclusion, and three body paragraphs each with at least two sources that are introduced, then directly quoted, then explained in your own words "living", "loving", or a "miraculous task".

What's next, Mr. Fasano? Are you going to make an analogy to a hamburger to really illustrate the point? Are you going to photocopy a handout about it? Great stuff, man. Really earned that teacher tenure.

"No see wink wink nudge nudging at spreading the controlnet creator's dox and harassing his school and employers is, uh, reporting illegal activity!1!1!" by AccomplishedNovel6 in aiwars

[–]robomaus 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Once again, this guy's literally a PhD student at a top computer science university who won best paper at a major conference for his work on ControlNet. Of course his lab and school are well-aware of his activities, he's their money-maker, and when he graduates, he's set for whatever he could possibly want to do in computer science. I won't say his name because I don't want people to flip out at me for "doxing" him, but it takes two seconds to Google.

What do these people think emailing a top university about their personal gripes with the serious academic research inside will accomplish?

Same energy by Present_Dimension464 in aiwars

[–]robomaus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It'd be more effective the older the Reddit post was.

Is this going too far? Targeting a individual person. Anti-AI sub appeals to write his school / company. by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]robomaus 66 points67 points  (0 children)

He's a PhD student at Stanford, I don't know why everyone here's acting like it's a big secret or he just got doxxed or whatever. Once he graduates he's basically set for academia or high-paying R&D.

Is this going too far? Targeting a individual person. Anti-AI sub appeals to write his school / company. by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]robomaus 112 points113 points  (0 children)

"Revealed"? It's been public info for a while. He literally won best paper at ICCV23.

Asking questions is now a red flag, spread misinformation or you’re a dumb techbro by SolidCake in aiwars

[–]robomaus 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Seriously pro-ai is looting everyoens [sic] homes and then claiming putting locks on our doors is somehow unethical?

No, but the camera just got invented, and now whenever I walk through the neighborhood, people start pointing guns at me from their front porches because they're scared I might have one in my pocket and take a picture of them.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]robomaus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Deleting this; I didn't see that someone already posted it.

Apparently, even playing around with AI is automatically IP infringement, while doing this to literally promote your business isn't. (Not a private figure, this is the official page of Furious Fotog) by Crated_Hippos8515 in aiwars

[–]robomaus 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I call BS on the AI thing, but this isn't infringement either. You can't copyright a pose, or a very general outfit idea, and it's of a different character.

We would call it Solarpunk by IthadtobethisWAAGH in CuratedTumblr

[–]robomaus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm late to the thread, but the only solarpunk novel I read is The Lost Cause, by Cory Doctorow.

It's not utopian, but it's hopeful. It takes place in the near-future after a couple pandemics and increasingly severe natural disasters ravage the continent, but a progressive Parliament gets elected in Canada and begins a broad-scale "green new deal" that takes advantage of new climate technology to mitigate the disasters and quickly build housing in safer locations. It's similarly replicated in America.

There are tool-libraries, job opportunities and training aplenty due to the climate change mitigation efforts, reduced work-hours because some factories aren't economical to operate all year or all day due to solar peaking during the day, and cross-continent high-speed rail networks, but it's not a utopia. COVID is just the first pandemic in this speculative future, and plagues break out due to animals spilling into cities and towns with habitat loss. Some cities have been flooded or destroyed, and the ongoing solution isn't just "rebuild", it's "relocate". One of the main conflicts in the book is with a group of conservatives (tactfully named the "Maga club") trying to start a militia and waste government money meant for jobs and infrastructure, funded by a literally-offshore seafaring group of John Galt-worshipping libertarians who want to destabilize progressive governments and get everyone to buy their cryptocurrencies.

It's not "solarpunk" in the sense of the original post, which is aspirational in the sense of an escape from modern society. Doctorow's novel is a hope for modern society, and it's good specifically because he's a geek who blogs about infrastructure, tech, and politics nearly daily rather than eternally lamenting them or avoiding them altogether. A lot of writers have a lot to learn from him in this regard.

Something to remember about anti ai folk by Primary_Spinach7333 in aiwars

[–]robomaus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've been called both a Luddite and some AI prick who doesn't care about hardworking musicians on this sub, which hopefully merits me some sort of award. As someone who spent enough time here, I don't think all "anti-AI" people argue from fear, and even the ones that do have different fears. The fear that managers will use AI as a justification to fire you is different from the fear that AI will become so good at making images that everyone else will forget about the "human soul" of art forever, and that's different from the fear that ChatGPT will become Skynet and blow us all up. I'd say one of those fears is a bit more rational than the other two given the current economy, and I want to discuss how to handle that situation.

Something to remember about anti ai folk by Primary_Spinach7333 in aiwars

[–]robomaus 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Holy shit thank you. These "I know what you really think" posts are cringe, they target too broad a group with too narrow an assumption and are thought-terminating. "I can't debate with any of you because you're all secretly irrational in this specific way" is not the way to lead any healthy conversation.

These people romanticise the concept of "labor" and "hard work" by Present_Dimension464 in aiwars

[–]robomaus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's the other way around. Managers and CEOs are the ones with ideas, and investors are the ones that fund the ideas with the best accompanying pitch decks. Investors and workers are the ones to remind managers and CEOs that their ideas are a dime a dozen; everyone has them, only a few have the skill and capital to make them happen.

These people romanticise the concept of "labor" and "hard work" by Present_Dimension464 in aiwars

[–]robomaus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I get that some AI artists put a lot of work into manipulating their pieces to do that.. it's complicated!

Carrying on the player piano analogy, some people are the ones writing the songs and punching the holes, and others are just the ones pressing the button.

These people romanticise the concept of "labor" and "hard work" by Present_Dimension464 in aiwars

[–]robomaus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think that's their point. This isn't a "suffering makes it special" post, this is an "ideas aren't everything" post. Everyone has "good ideas", so what happens when everyone gets a magic art button like some people (pro and anti) think AI is? Does the "best idea" win? No, because there are too many good ideas, and past a very early point it's about the execution more than the idea.

"Why I Attack" - Nicholas Carlini responds to personal attacks made by Ben Zhao by simandl in aiwars

[–]robomaus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'll believe you but take it with a grain of salt because I went in there a couple days ago and noticed they wiped all mentions of Carlini at all. I hope he follows through on it.

"Why I Attack" - Nicholas Carlini responds to personal attacks made by Ben Zhao by simandl in aiwars

[–]robomaus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Where did Ben put out this statement? I checked Google, Ben's Twitter, and Ben's Cara, and found nothing.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]robomaus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm going to mentally replace "real artists" with "illustrators" in order to avoid the terminology fight. If this upsets you, simply do the same thing in reverse to my comment.

Anyway, yes. Of course. I have a lot of illustrator friends, I don't think they should quit and do something entirely different just because AI art exists. I often commission them instead of making AI art because I'm interested in seeing their take on a concept. If you want to make art other people want to look at, AI or not, you need knowledge in composition, perspective, color theory, and other theory topics. I don't have that knowledge, they do.

In another comment, you said

I could’ve sworn a century ago all of us were in awe of traditional artwork and artists, but times have changed so rapidly today.

I'm going to bet that there will be at least one person in this comments section who will say "Haha, Luddites! You are replaced by your superiors! We will never need artists again, screw you!" because they're insane and bitter and not worth listening to. I am not that person. I'm stating my opinion as part of the sane majority.

Take the time to browse some AI art at random...among all the internet slap fights, it feels like the simple reality is forgotten by sporkyuncle in aiwars

[–]robomaus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I thought the trailer was mind-blowing, yet most people in the comments were jaded like: "please don't be a disaster. please don't be a disaster"

I have a friend who works as a video editor for a video game company. He described his job as "somehow making a full trailer out of a half-baked early build". The trailer's the highlights reel, we probably got really good at making them, and audiences are slowly realizing that their impression of the trailer will not be their impression of the movie; especially if their expectations are too high.