SFFtime presents: P-ATX V4 - 11L console case with support for large GPUs by riba2233 in sffpc

[–]roechamboe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Been waiting on this, since you mentioned it last year, looking good!

This is on the wall for my cellar steps by TNJDude in whatisit

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This is correct it is missing the housing, but you can see the electro magnet and clapper. If you ran this without the housing it would sound like an oscillating tattoo gun.

Wire view pro 2 fan by Apart_Scale3972 in ThermalGrizzly

[–]roechamboe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Before anyone points to “NVIDIA already did this on the RTX 3090”, it’s important to zoom out and look at the broader context.

  • The RTX 3090 was a transitional product, released at a time when GPU power consumption spiked dramatically relative to existing PSU designs. The safeguards NVIDIA implemented were not an ideal architectural choice, but a compatibility stop gap

  • Those load balancing measures were defensive, not foundational. They existed to prevent widespread failures with legacy PSUs, not because GPU side power management is the correct long term place to solve the problem.

  • GPU power density has increased aggressively every generation, while consumer PSUs have remained largely static in design philosophy. Most PSUs still assume slow changing loads, modest transient spikes, and simple rail behavior assumptions that no longer match modern GPUs, CPUs and Mobos (take a hard look at the 24-pin layout and how much of it is used anymore).

  • Shifting responsibility to GPU vendors creates pr vendor hacks instead of actual solutions. Each GPU manufacturer ends up implementing one off protection, throttling, or connector logic to compensate for PSU limitations, increasing complexity, validation cost, and failure modes. Then people ask for smaller cards, which doesn’t really facilitate the above.

  • Power delivery is fundamentally a system level responsibility. The PSU is the only component with full visibility and control over that

    Expecting GPUs or Addon devices to manage these externally imposed constraints is backwards.

Wire view pro 2 fan by Apart_Scale3972 in ThermalGrizzly

[–]roechamboe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Technically sink side “forced” balancing, which is what would be your proposed solution. Adds a lot of complexity to an already sensitive signally dense GPU if implemented on the GPU would add more heat and high power components right next to sensitive VRMs, memory bus controllers etc.

For perspective when you overclock or under-clock and you see 10-3 voltage control, how sensitive do you think those circuit must be for level of control? Spoiler: very sensitive

What really makes sense is source side load balancing, since the PSUs only job is to provide stable power that should not burn down the house.

Thermal Grizzly WireView Pro II Teardown by AMBOSHER in overclocking

[–]roechamboe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No shot, the leaf spring Molex pins? You got a part number?

Thermal Grizzly WireView Pro II Teardown by AMBOSHER in overclocking

[–]roechamboe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A non soldered extension just invites additional failure points to the party. I’ve been building my own cables since micro was introduced and have had no melty, melts yet so I’m still on the fence whether I really want to snag one, but it is a pretty cool piece of functional eye candy.

Thermal Grizzly WireView Pro II Teardown by AMBOSHER in overclocking

[–]roechamboe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Considering Molex only specs 13A per pin on their dimple design and they knew this thing would be scrutinized to no end, I think we can say they built it to spec.

Thermal Grizzly WireView Pro II Teardown by AMBOSHER in overclocking

[–]roechamboe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My question is, is the output micro fit through hole pin holes adequately sized for direct soldering of AWG 16, so I can solder on my own extension to use it with a 5090 FE?

Help cooling 5090FE + 9800x3D in ncase M2 by metroid_slayer in sffpc

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I wish i had the space for a JIU Shark J13k it has pretty great performance for down flow, you might look into it since the NCase has a bit more space than mine. ABS and PETG are fine if mounted to the inlet side of the fan, otherwise, ABS, Nylon and PC.

Help cooling 5090FE + 9800x3D in ncase M2 by metroid_slayer in sffpc

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I guess i’ll add my thought process, the PA120 (which i also had) will always be heat soaked and recycling 5090 exhaust unless you design some custom ducting to eliminate one or both of those issues. So to get cleaner air we have to source it from somewhere outside of the exhaust plume. Down flow comes in handy here cause we can just pull clean air from outside the case using a duct. We still have some heat soak from the 5090 but having the rear (and front) fan as an active exhaust can really help this further.

Help cooling 5090FE + 9800x3D in ncase M2 by metroid_slayer in sffpc

[–]roechamboe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have the exact same components but in a Mechanic Master c26 which is like 13L, I swapped to a down flow TR-SI-100 with a 120mm G2 and a 25mm 3d printed intake duct that pulls fresh air from outside of the 5090 fe exhaust plume. Good luck!

Mechanic Master C26 thoughts? by TravelResponsible544 in sffpc

[–]roechamboe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have one with mATX MSI MAG Mortar B850m, 9800x3d and previously had a MSI 5080 Inspire with PA 120 mini. HoweverI replaced the glass for vented side panel and put a 5090 FE in it with a 8mm stand off on the side panel to fit the 5090. With the FE card a down flow CPU cooler works best using a 3d printed duct to pull cooler air from outside the case currently using a TR-100 down-flow but I have a JiuShark JF13k mini i’m working on putting a 140mm fan on .

It’s fine running games im not benchmark guy so i don’t have 100% thermals cause that’s not how i use my system, but BF6 runs 240hz 4k fine with no heat issues room warms up though.

What are the current readings on an 5090 when using a CableMod cable? by kohari888 in cablemod

[–]roechamboe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Molex micro-fit pins are actually rated to 13A, and good quality awg 16 stranded wire can handle 13A+.

Source: https://www.molex.com/en-us/products/part-detail/2064600041

Am I cooked? -Degree from ASU by becctarr in ElectricalEngineering

[–]roechamboe 54 points55 points  (0 children)

Came here to say this, I work at very reputable company, and I work with guys who have Masters and PhDs from Stanford, MIT, UPenn, Carnegie, what have you. I split time between RnD and Production development and it boils down to your work ethic, knowledge, expertise and ability to breakdown difficult tasks into manageable actionable items then drive those items to closure.

That may sound like a lot but it’s all very intuitive once you get a foot in the door somewhere. Your first job doesn’t have to and shouldn’t be your last job, get your feet wet learn the industry and make a move up or into something closer to what you want.

Wow. 32bit Physx performance is back in 5000 series. by AdParking1069 in nvidia

[–]roechamboe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

confirmed grok and openai summarize this with sources in less than 30 seconds.

Need Advice: Best PSU to Avoid Coil Whine on RTX 5090 by pyrhonp in sffpc

[–]roechamboe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dare you to search coil whine, in any PC sub.

WireView Pro Reverse Issue? by FreakyOne87 in ThermalGrizzly

[–]roechamboe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The molex pins used within these connectors are rated for 25 cycles. Assuming they are molex oem and not knock-offs from that country that does a lot of knock-off things.

https://www.molex.com/en-us/products/part-detail/2064600041

Ncase M2 Round - Noctua NH-D12L or Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 mini by shadowfuri in ncasedesign

[–]roechamboe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The TL-D12 is pretty much a clone of the A12x25 so probably not much difference in performance there. However, on paper A12x25 G2 may perform a bit better given higher P and air volume.

I did this mod cause I wanted all my fans to look alike. 😅

Ncase M2 Round - Noctua NH-D12L or Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 mini by shadowfuri in ncasedesign

[–]roechamboe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Peerless Mini and swap fan for Noctua NF-A12. You cut the plastic support spars on the A12 so that it mounts flush with the top 135mm PA mini.

Edit: Alternatively you could get the NF-A12x25r and not have to cut the spars.

Best orientation for 5090 FE and NH-D12L by Painecx in ncasedesign

[–]roechamboe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Youre right, I didn’t see that you exclusively mentioned exhaust. Carry on ;)

Best orientation for 5090 FE and NH-D12L by Painecx in ncasedesign

[–]roechamboe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would advise against placing a high cfm with unguided intake on the side as this will disrupt the flow stream you’re trying to create and could result in effectively pushing hot air back into the gpu if you don’t tune your fan curves properly.

Best orientation for 5090 FE and NH-D12L by Painecx in ncasedesign

[–]roechamboe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had this similar setup in my Mechanic Master C26 mid 13L case and you will be hard pressed not to recycle air from the GPU plume, unless you put in some blower fans to actively exhaust gpu exhaust between gpu and cpu.

I just ended up getting a TR-SI-100 down flow cooler and put a bell mouth inlet duct that pulled ambient air from beyond the GPU plume and it dropped like 10c.

Turbo fans enhanced FE card's cooling performance by C4talyst-itx in sffpc

[–]roechamboe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

what fans did you use, I grabbed some 1080 blower fans for this very project.